"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in news:i2posm$35v$1
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Ok, I'll bite. Is it really free?

Is it time limited or executions limited?

Is it share ware?

Is it cripple ware?

I visited the page and noticed there is "PD Sales" link, but no price.

I noticed it's "dino-ware". It runs under DOS with VESA drivers, for
criminy sake!

It sounds like a 1980s platform that someone has been performing
artificial respiration on; has kept adding to and "improving" it without
ever adding any abstraction layers. He even states that it "talks
directly to devices".

That might make it very fast and capable of driving hardware accurately,
but would also make it impossible to keep up-to-date, and would tend to
keep the interface so very primitive as to scare off almost everybody but
die-hard hardware types.

I know none of this for sure, having not run it. But it looks from the
docs to be very primitive.

Besides, I don't have any old 8088-based DOS3.1 machines to run it on
G.

LLoyd


LLoyd

No, but I have some 98SE machines on the shelf, and I am sure my old gammer
has a VESA card in it. You can still run a 98SE machine in DOS mode. I
even have a DOS box I use regularly in the office (PC DOS 7) for remote
programming certain types of phone switches and some other equipment.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:52:59 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote:

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
.3.70...
"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in news:i2posm$35v$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

Ok, I'll bite. Is it really free?

Is it time limited or executions limited?

Is it share ware?

Is it cripple ware?

I visited the page and noticed there is "PD Sales" link, but no price.

I noticed it's "dino-ware". It runs under DOS with VESA drivers, for
criminy sake!

It sounds like a 1980s platform that someone has been performing
artificial respiration on; has kept adding to and "improving" it without
ever adding any abstraction layers. He even states that it "talks
directly to devices".

That might make it very fast and capable of driving hardware accurately,
but would also make it impossible to keep up-to-date, and would tend to
keep the interface so very primitive as to scare off almost everybody but
die-hard hardware types.

I know none of this for sure, having not run it. But it looks from the
docs to be very primitive.

Besides, I don't have any old 8088-based DOS3.1 machines to run it on
G.

LLoyd


LLoyd

No, but I have some 98SE machines on the shelf, and I am sure my old gammer
has a VESA card in it. You can still run a 98SE machine in DOS mode. I
even have a DOS box I use regularly in the office (PC DOS 7) for remote
programming certain types of phone switches and some other equipment.


OmniTurn CNC lathes use Dos (Caldera Open DOS) as their main operating
system.

Works just fine.

www.omniturn.com
www.omni-turn.com


Some things really dont need more than DOS.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:52:59 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote:

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
.3.70...
"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in news:i2posm$35v$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

Ok, I'll bite. Is it really free?

Is it time limited or executions limited?

Is it share ware?

Is it cripple ware?

I visited the page and noticed there is "PD Sales" link, but no price.

I noticed it's "dino-ware". It runs under DOS with VESA drivers, for
criminy sake!

It sounds like a 1980s platform that someone has been performing
artificial respiration on; has kept adding to and "improving" it without
ever adding any abstraction layers. He even states that it "talks
directly to devices".

That might make it very fast and capable of driving hardware accurately,
but would also make it impossible to keep up-to-date, and would tend to
keep the interface so very primitive as to scare off almost everybody but
die-hard hardware types.

I know none of this for sure, having not run it. But it looks from the
docs to be very primitive.

Besides, I don't have any old 8088-based DOS3.1 machines to run it on
G.

LLoyd


LLoyd

No, but I have some 98SE machines on the shelf, and I am sure my old gammer
has a VESA card in it. You can still run a 98SE machine in DOS mode. I
even have a DOS box I use regularly in the office (PC DOS 7) for remote
programming certain types of phone switches and some other equipment.


OmniTurn CNC lathes use Dos (Caldera Open DOS) as their main operating
system.

Works just fine.

www.omniturn.com
www.omni-turn.com

Some things really dont need more than DOS.



Have you ever looked at Free DOS? http://www.www.freedos.org

--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:21:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:52:59 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote:

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
.3.70...
"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in news:i2posm$35v$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

Ok, I'll bite. Is it really free?

Is it time limited or executions limited?

Is it share ware?

Is it cripple ware?

I visited the page and noticed there is "PD Sales" link, but no price.

I noticed it's "dino-ware". It runs under DOS with VESA drivers, for
criminy sake!

It sounds like a 1980s platform that someone has been performing
artificial respiration on; has kept adding to and "improving" it without
ever adding any abstraction layers. He even states that it "talks
directly to devices".

That might make it very fast and capable of driving hardware accurately,
but would also make it impossible to keep up-to-date, and would tend to
keep the interface so very primitive as to scare off almost everybody but
die-hard hardware types.

I know none of this for sure, having not run it. But it looks from the
docs to be very primitive.

Besides, I don't have any old 8088-based DOS3.1 machines to run it on
G.

LLoyd


LLoyd

No, but I have some 98SE machines on the shelf, and I am sure my old gammer
has a VESA card in it. You can still run a 98SE machine in DOS mode. I
even have a DOS box I use regularly in the office (PC DOS 7) for remote
programming certain types of phone switches and some other equipment.


OmniTurn CNC lathes use Dos (Caldera Open DOS) as their main operating
system.

Works just fine.

www.omniturn.com
www.omni-turn.com

Some things really dont need more than DOS.



Have you ever looked at Free DOS? http://www.www.freedos.org

No..never have. When I get back from So Cal this weekend, Ill download
it and see if an OmniTurn will run under it.

Thanks!

Gunner


"A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray;
a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't
like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all.
A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all
to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children.
A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station;
an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted."
Bobby XD9

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:21:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:52:59 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote:

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
.3.70...
"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in news:i2posm$35v$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

Ok, I'll bite. Is it really free?

Is it time limited or executions limited?

Is it share ware?

Is it cripple ware?

I visited the page and noticed there is "PD Sales" link, but no price.

I noticed it's "dino-ware". It runs under DOS with VESA drivers, for
criminy sake!

It sounds like a 1980s platform that someone has been performing
artificial respiration on; has kept adding to and "improving" it without
ever adding any abstraction layers. He even states that it "talks
directly to devices".

That might make it very fast and capable of driving hardware accurately,
but would also make it impossible to keep up-to-date, and would tend to
keep the interface so very primitive as to scare off almost everybody but
die-hard hardware types.

I know none of this for sure, having not run it. But it looks from the
docs to be very primitive.

Besides, I don't have any old 8088-based DOS3.1 machines to run it on
G.

LLoyd


LLoyd

No, but I have some 98SE machines on the shelf, and I am sure my old gammer
has a VESA card in it. You can still run a 98SE machine in DOS mode. I
even have a DOS box I use regularly in the office (PC DOS 7) for remote
programming certain types of phone switches and some other equipment.


OmniTurn CNC lathes use Dos (Caldera Open DOS) as their main operating
system.

Works just fine.

www.omniturn.com
www.omni-turn.com

Some things really dont need more than DOS.



Have you ever looked at Free DOS? http://www.freedos.org

No..never have. When I get back from So Cal this weekend, Ill download
it and see if an OmniTurn will run under it.


It's supposed to run better on newer motherboards than the older
versions of DOS, but I haven't tried it.


There is a Free basic complier, too: http://www.freebasic.net


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.