Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

Sigh

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

The economy is certainly one factor. In addition eBay's changes over the
years have ruined it for me. I still budget the same or even slightly higher
for new equipment I always have. Much of it used to come from eBay. Very
little does now.

Karl

On 2010-07-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

I checked ebay and do not see any .99 cent Cadillac height gages.

I see one $49 gage with bids.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=cad...e&_fln=1&_ipg=

I think that they do not sell, because they are obsolete.

I sold one (to a member of this newsgroup) for $99 three years ago,
when the economy still was going well.

i

Ignoramus15939 wrote:

On 2010-07-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

I checked ebay and do not see any .99 cent Cadillac height gages.

I see one $49 gage with bids.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=cad...e&_fln=1&_ipg=

I think that they do not sell, because they are obsolete.

I would tend to agree, I think auto tool length measurement has probably
replaced most all manual tool length measurement and data entry. Even
many HSM folks are using auto tool length measurement / touch off, and
most HSMs don't have ATCs yet.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:14:42 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Ignoramus15939 wrote:

On 2010-07-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

I checked ebay and do not see any .99 cent Cadillac height gages.

I see one $49 gage with bids.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=cad...e&_fln=1&_ipg=

I think that they do not sell, because they are obsolete.

I would tend to agree, I think auto tool length measurement has probably
replaced most all manual tool length measurement and data entry. Even
many HSM folks are using auto tool length measurement / touch off, and
most HSMs don't have ATCs yet.


I started viewing other catagories as well. It appears that anything
related to machining is simply not selling.

Im also rather fascinated by the prices....some of which have gone UP,
rather than down. Im not sure why. Are the sellers simply trying to
make a living off of each piece (mostly dealers) or have they given up
on selling and are trying enmass to raise the price of items?

Like..come on..$275 for a verticle vernier height gage, without even a
dial indicator on it...geeze. Ive been picking them up for $20 in the
wooden cases...

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:33:21 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote the following:

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:14:42 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Ignoramus15939 wrote:

On 2010-07-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

I checked ebay and do not see any .99 cent Cadillac height gages.

I see one $49 gage with bids.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=cad...e&_fln=1&_ipg=

I think that they do not sell, because they are obsolete.

I would tend to agree, I think auto tool length measurement has probably
replaced most all manual tool length measurement and data entry. Even
many HSM folks are using auto tool length measurement / touch off, and
most HSMs don't have ATCs yet.


I started viewing other catagories as well. It appears that anything
related to machining is simply not selling.

I only buy stuff from eBay which is dirt cheap.


Im also rather fascinated by the prices....some of which have gone UP,
rather than down. Im not sure why. Are the sellers simply trying to
make a living off of each piece (mostly dealers) or have they given up
on selling and are trying enmass to raise the price of items?

Bingo, they're trying to make a few years' living off each piece sold.
I've never seen good deals on there. And I've never seen a mini-mill
there (3 in 6+ years, IIRC) which didn't get listed for more than
retail. Go figure. Sellers are vying for Rolls Royce price for Yugo
items. Ain't gonna happen, except when you find some fool in "auction
heat".


Like..come on..$275 for a verticle vernier height gage, without even a
dial indicator on it...geeze. Ive been picking them up for $20 in the
wooden cases...

Can you say "eBay anteek"? I knew you could.

--

EXPLETIVE: A balm, usually applied verbally in hindsight,
which somehow eases those pains and indignities following
our every deficiency in foresight.

On 2010-07-12, Larry Jaques wrote:
Im also rather fascinated by the prices....some of which have gone UP,
rather than down. Im not sure why. Are the sellers simply trying to
make a living off of each piece (mostly dealers) or have they given up
on selling and are trying enmass to raise the price of items?

Very simple. eBay reduced the price to list items (even if they do not
sell) and raised the fees for sold items. So, people are responding by
jacking up the prices and listing unsellable garbage. I despise all
that and try to list as little on eBay as possible.

Want a 15 HP 230v Baldor H2 VFD (single phase capable)? Or a 3 HP
Baldor grinder with dust collector and stand? Or a heat treating furnace?

Bingo, they're trying to make a few years' living off each piece sold.
I've never seen good deals on there.

You did not look deeply enough. I once bought an impact wrench for
$45, that I sold for $1,500 (and likely it was worth more).


Like..come on..$275 for a verticle vernier height gage, without even a
dial indicator on it...geeze. Ive been picking them up for $20 in the
wooden cases...

Can you say "eBay anteek"? I knew you could.


**** eBay.

i

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What
you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.
Steve

"Pete C." wrote in message ster.com...

Ignoramus15939 wrote:

On 2010-07-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

I checked ebay and do not see any .99 cent Cadillac height gages.

I see one $49 gage with bids.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=cad...e&_fln=1&_ipg=

I think that they do not sell, because they are obsolete.

I would tend to agree, I think auto tool length measurement has probably
replaced most all manual tool length measurement and data entry. Even
many HSM folks are using auto tool length measurement / touch off, and
most HSMs don't have ATCs yet.

Steve Lusardi wrote:

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What
you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.
Steve

I'm 40.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:52:54 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Steve Lusardi wrote:

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What
you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.
Steve

I'm 40.

One of my buddies who uses my shop, is 28

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

In article .com,
"Pete C." wrote:

Steve Lusardi wrote:

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply
too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What
you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model
shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at
this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66
this Wed.
Steve

I'm 40.

Shucks, I've been married longer than that.

Our 42nd tomorrow.

On 07/12/2010 09:45 AM, Steve Lusardi wrote:
(top posting fixed)
"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

Ignoramus15939 wrote:

On 2010-07-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

I checked ebay and do not see any .99 cent Cadillac height gages.

I see one $49 gage with bids.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=cad...e&_fln=1&_ipg=

I think that they do not sell, because they are obsolete.

I would tend to agree, I think auto tool length measurement has probably
replaced most all manual tool length measurement and data entry. Even
many HSM folks are using auto tool length measurement / touch off, and
most HSMs don't have ATCs yet.

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is
simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What you do
still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops
and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They only exist with the
hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we
have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you survey those, I'll bet there are not
many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

On the plus side, I just read an article in "The Economist", relating
that Chinese workers are still demanding -- and getting 15% to 25%
annual wage increases as their economy gets better and better. If we
can just maintain some pools of talent, then as China turns into the New
Japan and hits _it's_ economic wall, we'll be able to start
manufacturing again.

I think the current prices on eBay reflect a combination of the fact
that there's still a lot of surplus capacity (read: cheap equipment) out
there and folks _expect_ prices to be low, and the fact that eBay just
isn't what it used to be.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
On 07/12/2010 09:45 AM, Steve Lusardi wrote:
(top posting fixed)
"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

Ignoramus15939 wrote:

On 2010-07-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

I checked ebay and do not see any .99 cent Cadillac height gages.

I see one $49 gage with bids.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=cad...e&_fln=1&_ipg=

I think that they do not sell, because they are obsolete.

I would tend to agree, I think auto tool length measurement has probably
replaced most all manual tool length measurement and data entry. Even
many HSM folks are using auto tool length measurement / touch off, and
most HSMs don't have ATCs yet.

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is
simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What you do
still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops
and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They only exist with the
hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we
have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you survey those, I'll bet there are not
many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

On the plus side, I just read an article in "The Economist", relating that
Chinese workers are still demanding -- and getting 15% to 25% annual wage
increases as their economy gets better and better. If we can just
maintain some pools of talent, then as China turns into the New Japan and
hits _it's_ economic wall, we'll be able to start manufacturing again.

I think the current prices on eBay reflect a combination of the fact that
there's still a lot of surplus capacity (read: cheap equipment) out there
and folks _expect_ prices to be low, and the fact that eBay just isn't
what it used to be.

This is a serious question: What kind of machine tools would a profitable,
well-run machine shop or manufacturing plant buy on eBay?

It's my understanding that hobbyists, repair shops, and part-time shops run
by retirees are the ones who buy most of the machines that are more than 10
or 15 years old.

Right? Or wrong?

--
Ed Huntress

"Steve Lusardi" writes:

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is
simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What you do
still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops
and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They only exist with
the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What
do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you survey those, I'll bet there
are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

While newsgroups in general are dying out, one of the major problems
this one has is the need to wade through mountains of political crap to
read an occasional machining post. Anybody still reading it for
machining is being really stubborn (yes, I'm including myself there).
--
As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should
be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)

In article , Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

While newsgroups in general are dying out, one of the major problems
this one has is the need to wade through mountains of political crap to
read an occasional machining post. Anybody still reading it for
machining is being really stubborn (yes, I'm including myself there).

*That* problem is easily solved by filtering out anything that's crossposted
to misc.survivalism and any group that has "politics" in its name.

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

"Steve Lusardi" writes:

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is
simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What you do
still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops
and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They only exist with
the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What
do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you survey those, I'll bet there
are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

While newsgroups in general are dying out, one of the major problems
this one has is the need to wade through mountains of political crap to
read an occasional machining post.



Anybody still reading it for
machining is being really stubborn (yes, I'm including myself there).

Or they know how to set their filters to eliminate 95% of the crap
posts...

On 2010-07-12, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
"Steve Lusardi" writes:

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is
simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What you do
still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops
and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They only exist with
the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What
do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you survey those, I'll bet there
are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

While newsgroups in general are dying out, one of the major problems
this one has is the need to wade through mountains of political crap to
read an occasional machining post. Anybody still reading it for
machining is being really stubborn (yes, I'm including myself there).

And has a *very* active (and growing) killfile. (That's me. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:45:36 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote:

If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.
Steve
========
71


-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

On Jul 12, 11:45*am, "Steve Lusardi" wrote:
I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What
you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.
Steve

Not so quick there, binky...

My day job is within a major, very commonly known company, working in
a Tool and Model Shop. (They like to refer to it as Rapid Prototyping,
here)
While deeply ensconced in CNC, there is almost as much done manually,
and those of us here are here because we have skills in both.
My night job, at home, is 95% manual machining, too. And I'm not over
45, yet. I just don't post much, here, because the signal to nose
ratio is in the "stupid" zone...

On 07/12/2010 10:22 AM, SSM wrote:
On Jul 12, 11:45 am, "Steve wrote:
I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What
you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops and short run ma& pa operations are long gone. They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.
Steve

Not so quick there, binky...

My day job is within a major, very commonly known company, working in
a Tool and Model Shop. (They like to refer to it as Rapid Prototyping,
here)
While deeply ensconced in CNC, there is almost as much done manually,
and those of us here are here because we have skills in both.
My night job, at home, is 95% manual machining, too. And I'm not over
45, yet. I just don't post much, here, because the signal to nose
ratio is in the "stupid" zone...

When I'm not falling to the temptation to respond to the political posts
I try to post my own metalworking projects, even when they're pretty
trivial, just to get the SNR up.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

Steve Lusardi wrote:
The manual model
shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They only exist
with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG.
What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you survey those, I'll bet
there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

That is more a function of usenet and a function of the political bickering
that has driven knowledgeable people away from this (and other usenet
groups) in droves.

As much as I loathe webforums, they do have the advantage of moderating out
the political B.S., and the community of HSM's there is thriving.

Reaping, sowing, and all of that.

Jon

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:45:36 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote the following:

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What
you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

I turn 57 next month.

--

EXPLETIVE: A balm, usually applied verbally in hindsight,
which somehow eases those pains and indignities following
our every deficiency in foresight.

On 2010-07-12, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:45:36 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote the following:

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What
you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

I turn 57 next month.


I am 39.

i

On 7/12/2010 11:45 AM, Steve Lusardi wrote:
I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is
simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What you do
still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops
and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They only exist with
the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What
do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you survey those, I'll bet there
are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.
Steve

I'm 25.

I've been 25 for 35 years now.

David

"David R.Birch" wrote:

On 7/12/2010 11:45 AM, Steve Lusardi wrote:
I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is
simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What you do
still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops
and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They only exist with
the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What
do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you survey those, I'll bet there
are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.
Steve

I'm 25.

I've been 25 for 35 years now.

David

In that case, I'm 80... I was born old and crotchety.

"Steve Lusardi" wrote:

Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

Had to do the math since I forgot my age. 52.

Wes

In article , wrote:
"Steve Lusardi" wrote:

Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this
Wed.

Had to do the math since I forgot my age. 52.

Same here, as of last week.

On 2010-07-12, Steve Lusardi wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message ster.com...

I would tend to agree, I think auto tool length measurement has probably
replaced most all manual tool length measurement and data entry. Even
many HSM folks are using auto tool length measurement / touch off, and
most HSMs don't have ATCs yet.

I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese. What
you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone. They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

Hmm ... I guess that I qualify as a regular. :-)

69 until next April.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"Steve Lusardi" on Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:45:36
+0200 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
I also agree, but we have deindustrialized our economy. Our labor is simply too expensive to be competitive with the Chinese.

We're trying to compete with the Chinese on their terms. The US,
last I heard, was still the leader in productivity: how much widget
produced per hour/buck.

What you do still see is CNC everywhere there is machining. The manual model shops and short run ma & pa operations are long gone.

Manual shops, of all sorts (machinist, cabinetry, clothing,
leatherwork, blacksmithing, etc), are on the decline, and those that
are "doing well" are "boutique", otherwise it doesn't pay. Back in
tech school, I was working on a "project" and talking with the
instructor (A Manufacturing Engineer), said "If I was doing this for
production, I'd set it up differently". But that is the difference
between a production set up, and a one time knock off.
The real problem (tm) is that far too many "kids" believe the only
way to make any money is to go to college and get a Good Job. Maybe
so, but good luck doing that. How many people dump 'the rat race' of
the "good job" in order to go do something they like better.
Remember the joke about the surgeon getting the bill from the
plumber, and saying "I don't make that much an hour!" to which the
plumber replies, "neither did I when I was a surgeon."

They
only exist with the hobbiest and we are dying out as well. Just look at this NG. What do we have, 2 dozen regulars left? If you
survey those, I'll bet there are not many below the age of 60. I'll be 66 this Wed.

I'm 55, and I started in my forties.
Steve

--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Hey Gunner,

You won't get one of those for 99 cents, but there is one at 2:45 EDT
July 12, with a starting at $199.95 and no bids as yet

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cadillac-Gage-Co-19380-Pla-Chek-Height-Gage-/150464912694?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&ha sh=item2308685d36

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

ps....whatcha want that for??


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On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 02:36:17 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

Sigh

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:45:23 -0400, Brian Lawson
wrote:

Hey Gunner,

You won't get one of those for 99 cents, but there is one at 2:45 EDT
July 12, with a starting at $199.95 and no bids as yet

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cadillac-Gage-Co-19380-Pla-Chek-Height-Gage-/150464912694?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&ha sh=item2308685d36


I missed one last month for $32.25

Shrug

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

ps....whatcha want that for??

Because my existing Cadillac gage is 30" tall and weighs a freaking ton.

Gunner



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On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 02:36:17 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Ive been browsing Ebay...Ive been looking for a 12" Cadillac height
gage...and of the 300+ items for sale...there are about (7) bidders.
And those are bidding on the .99c items

We are not doing very well in manufacturing...are we?

Sigh

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch