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Another Senator "Outed"
The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual.
He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Hawke |
Another Senator "Outed"
"Hawke" wrote in message ... The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Hawke I thought liberals were all about gay rights? It's OK in the military but not as a Senator? How liberal of you! RogerN |
Another Senator "Outed"
"Hawke" wrote in message ... The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Hawke Rumor has it he is in a bipartisan relationship with Barny Frank, now if obama reaches out across party lines there could be a 3way. Best Regards Tom. |
Another Senator "Outed"
"Hawke" wrote in message ... The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Hawke Don't get excited, he won't date anybody like you. |
Another Senator "Outed"
On 2010-04-22, Hawke wrote:
The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Oddly enough, he was outed by a fellow Republican. i |
Another Senator "Outed"
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:29:20 -0500, Ignoramus9512
wrote: On 2010-04-22, Hawke wrote: The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Oddly enough, he was outed by a fellow Republican. i Which just goes to show the honesty of the other Republican, Now if he were a Democrat like...Gary Studds... who took a 17 yr old male page and raped him..he would have gotten a standing ovation from his fellow Democrats. http://newsbusters.org/node/8336 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgment."[2] The House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3. Studds faced the Speaker who was actually reading the motion, with his back to the other members.[3] Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure. He served 4 MORE terms as Congressman. At 17 yrs old..it was rape, as a matter of law. Then of course..we have Barney Frank..who ran a gay whore house in his apartment. Which is why Im fascinated by all the Leftwingers who point fingers in horror at gay Republicans. Hypocrits each and every one of them. But then..Leftwingers are mentally ill..so its not surprising that they have issues...... Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
Another Senator "Outed"
In article ,
Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:29:20 -0500, Ignoramus9512 wrote: On 2010-04-22, Hawke wrote: The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Oddly enough, he was outed by a fellow Republican. i Which just goes to show the honesty of the other Republican, Now if he were a Democrat like...Gary Studds... who took a 17 yr old male page and raped him..he would have gotten a standing ovation from his fellow Democrats. http://newsbusters.org/node/8336 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgment."[2] The House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3. Studds faced the Speaker who was actually reading the motion, with his back to the other members.[3] Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure. He served 4 MORE terms as Congressman. My Mother was in Gary Studds district, and she *did* know. When the story about the page broke, she was appalled. But when the next election arrived, she was even more appalled by Studds' opponents, all good family men, with happy-family campaign photos to prove it, but dumb as an oyster. She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn |
Another Senator "Outed"
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:09:26 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote: In article , Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:29:20 -0500, Ignoramus9512 wrote: On 2010-04-22, Hawke wrote: The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Oddly enough, he was outed by a fellow Republican. i Which just goes to show the honesty of the other Republican, Now if he were a Democrat like...Gary Studds... who took a 17 yr old male page and raped him..he would have gotten a standing ovation from his fellow Democrats. http://newsbusters.org/node/8336 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgment."[2] The House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3. Studds faced the Speaker who was actually reading the motion, with his back to the other members.[3] Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure. He served 4 MORE terms as Congressman. My Mother was in Gary Studds district, and she *did* know. When the story about the page broke, she was appalled. But when the next election arrived, she was even more appalled by Studds' opponents, all good family men, with happy-family campaign photos to prove it, but dumb as an oyster. She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
Another Senator "Outed"
Any time you see a man sucking cock, you can feel safe betting it's a
Democrat. But, as Hawke pointed out, it could be a RINO (A Democrat cocksucker that ran as a Republican). RogerN "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:29:20 -0500, Ignoramus9512 wrote: On 2010-04-22, Hawke wrote: The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Oddly enough, he was outed by a fellow Republican. i Which just goes to show the honesty of the other Republican, Now if he were a Democrat like...Gary Studds... who took a 17 yr old male page and raped him..he would have gotten a standing ovation from his fellow Democrats. http://newsbusters.org/node/8336 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgment."[2] The House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3. Studds faced the Speaker who was actually reading the motion, with his back to the other members.[3] Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure. He served 4 MORE terms as Congressman. At 17 yrs old..it was rape, as a matter of law. Then of course..we have Barney Frank..who ran a gay whore house in his apartment. Which is why Im fascinated by all the Leftwingers who point fingers in horror at gay Republicans. Hypocrits each and every one of them. But then..Leftwingers are mentally ill..so its not surprising that they have issues...... Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
Another Senator "Outed"
On 2010-04-22, RogerN wrote:
Any time you see a man sucking cock, you can feel safe betting it's a Democrat. But, as Hawke pointed out, it could be a RINO (A Democrat cocksucker that ran as a Republican). Just curious, do you think the same applies to women sucking cock, or not. i RogerN "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:29:20 -0500, Ignoramus9512 wrote: On 2010-04-22, Hawke wrote: The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Oddly enough, he was outed by a fellow Republican. i Which just goes to show the honesty of the other Republican, Now if he were a Democrat like...Gary Studds... who took a 17 yr old male page and raped him..he would have gotten a standing ovation from his fellow Democrats. http://newsbusters.org/node/8336 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgment."[2] The House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3. Studds faced the Speaker who was actually reading the motion, with his back to the other members.[3] Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure. He served 4 MORE terms as Congressman. At 17 yrs old..it was rape, as a matter of law. Then of course..we have Barney Frank..who ran a gay whore house in his apartment. Which is why Im fascinated by all the Leftwingers who point fingers in horror at gay Republicans. Hypocrits each and every one of them. But then..Leftwingers are mentally ill..so its not surprising that they have issues...... Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
Another Senator "Outed"
"Ignoramus10488" wrote in message ... On 2010-04-22, RogerN wrote: Any time you see a man sucking cock, you can feel safe betting it's a Democrat. But, as Hawke pointed out, it could be a RINO (A Democrat cocksucker that ran as a Republican). Just curious, do you think the same applies to women sucking cock, or not. Na, that's how you can tell a woman is single. VBG Karl |
Another Senator "Outed"
"RogerN" wrote:
"Hawke" wrote in message ... The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Hawke I thought liberals were all about gay rights? It's OK in the military but not as a Senator? How liberal of you! I just checked the Wiki after noticing that Drudge hadn't picked up on this and I'm beginning to believe the accusation of being gay is bull chit. Sounds like a center right politician to me. One of the minority that served in our armed forces. A bit too close to center but hey, I'm not a liberal. Wes |
Another Senator "Outed"
"Wes" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote: "Hawke" wrote in message ... The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Hawke I thought liberals were all about gay rights? It's OK in the military but not as a Senator? How liberal of you! I just checked the Wiki after noticing that Drudge hadn't picked up on this and I'm beginning to believe the accusation of being gay is bull chit. Sounds like a center right politician to me. One of the minority that served in our armed forces. A bit too close to center but hey, I'm not a liberal. Wes The rumor has been passed around for years, by everyone who opposes him on any political issue. -- Ed Huntress |
Another Senator "Outed"
On 4/22/2010 3:49 PM, Karl Townsend wrote:
id wrote in message ... On 2010-04-22, wrote: Any time you see a man sucking cock, you can feel safe betting it's a Democrat. But, as Hawke pointed out, it could be a RINO (A Democrat cocksucker that ran as a Republican). Just curious, do you think the same applies to women sucking cock, or not. Na, that's how you can tell a woman is single.VBG Yeah, isn't that a rule of some kind that women give that up once they get married? What is interesting is the response by the right wing crowd to the news that another republican senator is a homosexual None of them had anything bad to say about Graham. The idea that one of their republican senators was hiding his homosexuality didn't seem to phase them one bit. The idea that a secret like that could be used to blackmail a senator hiding something like that didn't phase them either. Instead of being outraged that another republican senator was gay, all the right wingers responded by saying something negative about Democrats. That is very illuminating. No matter what the news right wingers always respond the same way, by attacking Democrats. It doesn't matter what the republican did they always respond by attacking Democrats even if they had nothing to do with anything, like in this case. Democrats have nothing to do with Graham being gay yet every winger commented negatively about the Democrats. That explains why it's impossible to have a rational discussion with right wingers. Hawke |
Another Senator "Outed"
"Ignoramus10488" wrote in message ... On 2010-04-22, RogerN wrote: Any time you see a man sucking cock, you can feel safe betting it's a Democrat. But, as Hawke pointed out, it could be a RINO (A Democrat cocksucker that ran as a Republican). Just curious, do you think the same applies to women sucking cock, or not. i RogerN Actually, I think most Democrat women have a cock! Or at least a strap-on.. All I know is the difference between a job and a wife is that the job still sucks after a few years. :-) RogerN |
Another Senator "Outed"
On Apr 21, 8:14*pm, Hawke wrote:
The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Hawke Libel is the written defamation of character. You need to be more careful. Dan |
Another Senator "Outed"
In article ,
Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:09:26 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:29:20 -0500, Ignoramus9512 wrote: On 2010-04-22, Hawke wrote: The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Oddly enough, he was outed by a fellow Republican. i Which just goes to show the honesty of the other Republican, Now if he were a Democrat like...Gary Studds... who took a 17 yr old male page and raped him..he would have gotten a standing ovation from his fellow Democrats. http://newsbusters.org/node/8336 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgment."[2] The House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3. Studds faced the Speaker who was actually reading the motion, with his back to the other members.[3] Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure. He served 4 MORE terms as Congressman. My Mother was in Gary Studds district, and she *did* know. When the story about the page broke, she was appalled. But when the next election arrived, she was even more appalled by Studds' opponents, all good family men, with happy-family campaign photos to prove it, but dumb as an oyster. She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn |
Another Senator "Outed"
"Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn Apparently, it wasn't even statutory. A quick web check shows that the age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. It may have been poor judgment, but that was between him and the page. Paul K. Dickman |
Another Senator "Outed"
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:50:59 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote: In article , Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:09:26 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:29:20 -0500, Ignoramus9512 wrote: On 2010-04-22, Hawke wrote: The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Oddly enough, he was outed by a fellow Republican. i Which just goes to show the honesty of the other Republican, Now if he were a Democrat like...Gary Studds... who took a 17 yr old male page and raped him..he would have gotten a standing ovation from his fellow Democrats. http://newsbusters.org/node/8336 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgment."[2] The House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3. Studds faced the Speaker who was actually reading the motion, with his back to the other members.[3] Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure. He served 4 MORE terms as Congressman. My Mother was in Gary Studds district, and she *did* know. When the story about the page broke, she was appalled. But when the next election arrived, she was even more appalled by Studds' opponents, all good family men, with happy-family campaign photos to prove it, but dumb as an oyster. She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Was it rape? yes/no Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn So your mom voluntarily voted for a rapist. Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
Another Senator "Outed"
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:09:09 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn Apparently, it wasn't even statutory. A quick web check shows that the age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. It may have been poor judgment, but that was between him and the page. Paul K. Dickman Hint..they werent in DC when it happened. Check the facts. Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
Another Senator "Outed"
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:09:09 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn Apparently, it wasn't even statutory. A quick web check shows that the age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. It may have been poor judgment, but that was between him and the page. Paul K. Dickman Hint..they werent in DC when it happened. Check the facts. Gunner Check your own facts, Gunner. According to the special counsel's report, Studds first invited the page to his Georgetown apartment, and then later that summer took the boy on a two-week trip to Portugal. The ex-page testified that he bore no ill will toward Studds. Read mo http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...#ixzz0lwq3b1Qq Unless you're talking about Portugal. Paul K. Dickman |
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Another Senator "Outed"
On 4/23/2010 8:09 AM, Paul K. Dickman wrote:
"Joseph wrote in message ... She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn Apparently, it wasn't even statutory. A quick web check shows that the age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. It may have been poor judgment, but that was between him and the page. Paul K. Dickman It also happened over 25 years ago. That's really going to the bottom of the barrel to try to find dirt on Democrats. Maybe that is because you have to go back that far to find anything on a Democrat while you can find even worse behavior by republicans all the time. Hawke |
Another Senator "Outed"
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:22:17 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:09:09 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn Apparently, it wasn't even statutory. A quick web check shows that the age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. It may have been poor judgment, but that was between him and the page. Paul K. Dickman Hint..they werent in DC when it happened. Check the facts. Gunner Check your own facts, Gunner. According to the special counsel's report, Studds first invited the page to his Georgetown apartment, and then later that summer took the boy on a two-week trip to Portugal. The ex-page testified that he bore no ill will toward Studds. Read mo http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...#ixzz0lwq3b1Qq Unless you're talking about Portugal. Paul K. Dickman Was it by law or not..statutory rape or not? Be specific. Use as much whitespace as possible And what is the age of consensual sex in Georgetown? Hummm? Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:22:17 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:09:09 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn Apparently, it wasn't even statutory. A quick web check shows that the age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. It may have been poor judgment, but that was between him and the page. Paul K. Dickman Hint..they werent in DC when it happened. Check the facts. Gunner Check your own facts, Gunner. According to the special counsel's report, Studds first invited the page to his Georgetown apartment, and then later that summer took the boy on a two-week trip to Portugal. The ex-page testified that he bore no ill will toward Studds. Read mo http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...#ixzz0lwq3b1Qq Unless you're talking about Portugal. Paul K. Dickman Was it by law or not..statutory rape or not? Be specific. Use as much whitespace as possible And what is the age of consensual sex in Georgetown? Hummm? Gunner Gunner, you blow hard, I have already told you. Georgetown is a neighborhood in Washington, DC. The age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. Therefore it was not statutory rape, by law or otherwise. It wasn't in illegal Portugal, either. Paul K. Dickman |
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Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:50:59 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:09:26 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:29:20 -0500, Ignoramus9512 wrote: On 2010-04-22, Hawke wrote: The news today is that another senator is in fact a closeted homosexual. He's also a republican, as you would probably guess. Who is it? Lindsey Graham. That's the word going around today. Graham is gay. Is it a fact? Right now it's only a rumor but he was outed by a Mr. Donatelli, a republican campaign manager. I'm sure there will be more to this one later. But it does explain why Graham has always been such a weaselly guy. Another gay republican politician, why am I not surprised? Oddly enough, he was outed by a fellow Republican. i Which just goes to show the honesty of the other Republican, Now if he were a Democrat like...Gary Studds... who took a 17 yr old male page and raped him..he would have gotten a standing ovation from his fellow Democrats. http://newsbusters.org/node/8336 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgment."[2] The House voted to censure Studds, on July 20, 1983, by a vote of 420-3. Studds faced the Speaker who was actually reading the motion, with his back to the other members.[3] Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure. He served 4 MORE terms as Congressman. My Mother was in Gary Studds district, and she *did* know. When the story about the page broke, she was appalled. But when the next election arrived, she was even more appalled by Studds' opponents, all good family men, with happy-family campaign photos to prove it, but dumb as an oyster. She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Was it rape? yes/no Apparently not, as discussed by other posters. I don't really recall the details anymore, as I didn't live in Mass then. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn So your mom voluntarily voted for a rapist. Seems pretty unlikely, doesn't it. I don't recall her ranting about rape. If it were, I would have heard about it. So, what's the point of this exchange? She was there. You were not. Joe Gwinn Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:51:25 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:22:17 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:09:09 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn Apparently, it wasn't even statutory. A quick web check shows that the age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. It may have been poor judgment, but that was between him and the page. Paul K. Dickman Hint..they werent in DC when it happened. Check the facts. Gunner Check your own facts, Gunner. According to the special counsel's report, Studds first invited the page to his Georgetown apartment, and then later that summer took the boy on a two-week trip to Portugal. The ex-page testified that he bore no ill will toward Studds. Read mo http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...#ixzz0lwq3b1Qq Unless you're talking about Portugal. Paul K. Dickman Was it by law or not..statutory rape or not? Be specific. Use as much whitespace as possible And what is the age of consensual sex in Georgetown? Hummm? Gunner Gunner, you blow hard, I have already told you. Georgetown is a neighborhood in Washington, DC. The age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. Therefore it was not statutory rape, by law or otherwise. It wasn't in illegal Portugal, either. Paul K. Dickman Yet in 42 other states..its rape. And the drinking ages in Georgetown? Studds got this kid drunk on numberous occasions and raped him. Stand up for the pedophilia, if thats what you think Democrats are good for. Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:10:03 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote: As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Was it rape? yes/no Apparently not, as discussed by other posters. I don't really recall the details anymore, as I didn't live in Mass then. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn So your mom voluntarily voted for a rapist. Seems pretty unlikely, doesn't it. I don't recall her ranting about rape. If it were, I would have heard about it. Nope..not if it occured in an area where the age of consent is over 16. And getting the kid drunk..is definately illegal. So, what's the point of this exchange? She was there. You were not. What is the point? Good question. Why DID you join in? I used Studds as an example of Leftwing degeneracy..and you go defending it. So you approve of degeneracy..or do you simply give leftwingers a pass on it? Gunner Joe Gwinn "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:10:03 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Was it rape? yes/no Apparently not, as discussed by other posters. I don't really recall the details anymore, as I didn't live in Mass then. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn So your mom voluntarily voted for a rapist. Seems pretty unlikely, doesn't it. I don't recall her ranting about rape. If it were, I would have heard about it. Nope..not if it occured in an area where the age of consent is over 16. And getting the kid drunk..is definately illegal. But it isn't rape of any kind. So, what's the point of this exchange? She was there. You were not. What is the point? Good question. Why DID you join in? I used Studds as an example of Leftwing degeneracy..and you go defending it. So you approve of degeneracy..or do you simply give leftwingers a pass on it? Well, in this particular case, I have direct information, which was in short supply. And the voters in Studds' district clearly didn't think it was as serious as you do, and they were there, and had a direct stake in the outcome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds "Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure." I actually recall reading about this back then. I have no idea why leftwing versus rightwing would matter in this 1973 case. It's more a matter of all politics being local. Joe Gwinn |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:51:25 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:22:17 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message m... On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:09:09 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... She voted for Studds. Joe Gwinn So your mom voted for a raper of boys. As I recall, it was not forcible, it was statutory. Doesnt spell good things for your Mom, did it? It was the lesser of the evils. Joe Gwinn Apparently, it wasn't even statutory. A quick web check shows that the age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. It may have been poor judgment, but that was between him and the page. Paul K. Dickman Hint..they werent in DC when it happened. Check the facts. Gunner Check your own facts, Gunner. According to the special counsel's report, Studds first invited the page to his Georgetown apartment, and then later that summer took the boy on a two-week trip to Portugal. The ex-page testified that he bore no ill will toward Studds. Read mo http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...#ixzz0lwq3b1Qq Unless you're talking about Portugal. Paul K. Dickman Was it by law or not..statutory rape or not? Be specific. Use as much whitespace as possible And what is the age of consensual sex in Georgetown? Hummm? Gunner Gunner, you blow hard, I have already told you. Georgetown is a neighborhood in Washington, DC. The age of consent in DC is 16 and has been 16 for over 100 years. Therefore it was not statutory rape, by law or otherwise. It wasn't in illegal Portugal, either. Paul K. Dickman Yet in 42 other states..its rape. And the drinking ages in Georgetown? Oh, so that's your philosophy. F*CK states rights. Diana Moon-Gunner as the Handicapper General of American Jurisprudence decides that the most restrictive state laws apply to all states. Perhaps we should apply this to the gun control laws. For the record only 12 states have an age of consent over 17. Studds got this kid drunk on numberous occasions and raped him. So, now you say that it is not statutory rape, but date rape? Your new evidence begs the question, "How drunk?". ? DC statute defines it like this; by rendering the other person unconscious or by administering to that person - either by force or without the person's knowledge - some type of intoxicant that would substantially impair the people's ability to appraise or control his/her conduct. Unless the page was passed out, forced fed, or told it was "soda pop", it wasn't rape Stand up for the pedophilia, if thats what you think Democrats are good for. Gunner That's the best you can come up with? What is next, "I know you are, but what am I"? Don't bring your beanshooter to a battle of wits. Even against a dead man, an unsubstantiated charge of rape is a serious business. So far, all you have for evidence is the noise rattling around in your head. I don't expect you to admit you're full of it, but I do expect you to shut the F*ck up. Paul K. Dickman |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:44:10 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote: Nope..not if it occured in an area where the age of consent is over 16. And getting the kid drunk..is definately illegal. But it isn't rape of any kind. Actually..in most states..it most certainly was/is. So its ok to rape a boy that you got drunk, right? So, what's the point of this exchange? She was there. You were not. What is the point? Good question. Why DID you join in? I used Studds as an example of Leftwing degeneracy..and you go defending it. So you approve of degeneracy..or do you simply give leftwingers a pass on it? Well, in this particular case, I have direct information, which was in short supply. And the voters in Studds' district clearly didn't think it was as serious as you do, and they were there, and had a direct stake in the outcome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds "Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure." I actually recall reading about this back then. Notice the part "following his congressional censure" Why did Congress censure him? Jealousy?? Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:37:34 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote: Stand up for the pedophilia, if thats what you think Democrats are good for. Gunner That's the best you can come up with? What is next, "I know you are, but what am I"? Don't bring your beanshooter to a battle of wits. If it wasnt a big deal...why did the US Congress censure him? Hummmm???? Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On 2010-04-24, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:44:10 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: Nope..not if it occured in an area where the age of consent is over 16. And getting the kid drunk..is definately illegal. But it isn't rape of any kind. Actually..in most states..it most certainly was/is. So its ok to rape a boy that you got drunk, right? If the boy was a legal age and it was consensual, it was not rape. i |
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In article , Ignoramus31606 wrote:
On 2010-04-24, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:44:10 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: Nope..not if it occured in an area where the age of consent is over 16. And getting the kid drunk..is definately illegal. But it isn't rape of any kind. Actually..in most states..it most certainly was/is. So its ok to rape a boy that you got drunk, right? If the boy was a legal age and it was consensual, it was not rape. If he was drunk, then it certainly was -- a drunk person, whether adult or minor, is not legally able to consent to *anything*. |
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Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:44:10 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: Nope..not if it occured in an area where the age of consent is over 16. And getting the kid drunk..is definately illegal. But it isn't rape of any kind. Actually..in most states..it most certainly was/is. So its ok to rape a boy that you got drunk, right? So, what's the point of this exchange? She was there. You were not. What is the point? Good question. Why DID you join in? I used Studds as an example of Leftwing degeneracy..and you go defending it. So you approve of degeneracy..or do you simply give leftwingers a pass on it? Well, in this particular case, I have direct information, which was in short supply. And the voters in Studds' district clearly didn't think it was as serious as you do, and they were there, and had a direct stake in the outcome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds "Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure." I actually recall reading about this back then. Notice the part "following his congressional censure" Why did Congress censure him? Jealousy?? For embarrassing them, one assumes. Anyway, read the whole Wiki article. Joe Gwinn |
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On 2010-04-24, Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Ignoramus31606 wrote: On 2010-04-24, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:44:10 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: Nope..not if it occured in an area where the age of consent is over 16. And getting the kid drunk..is definately illegal. But it isn't rape of any kind. Actually..in most states..it most certainly was/is. So its ok to rape a boy that you got drunk, right? If the boy was a legal age and it was consensual, it was not rape. If he was drunk, then it certainly was -- a drunk person, whether adult or minor, is not legally able to consent to *anything*. It is not true. It highly depends on how drunk the person was. Tomes of legal opinions are written about it. Just because one of two people was somewhat drunk, does not make it a rape. Otherwise we would have to say that I was "raped" by my spouse a couple of times very recently :) i |
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On Apr 23, 3:05*pm, Hawke wrote:
Libel is the written defamation of character. *You need to be more careful. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan No I don't. I'm not legally liable because all I did is relate what I heard Mr. Donatelli say on the Lars Larsen radio show. Hawke The words you used went beyond relating what you heard. You made a couple of statements that indicated that you believed that Graham is gay. Now your lawyer might convince a jury that you were not defaming Mr Graham, but then again he might not. Dan |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:15:42 -0500, Ignoramus31606
wrote: On 2010-04-24, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:44:10 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: Nope..not if it occured in an area where the age of consent is over 16. And getting the kid drunk..is definately illegal. But it isn't rape of any kind. Actually..in most states..it most certainly was/is. So its ok to rape a boy that you got drunk, right? If the boy was a legal age and it was consensual, it was not rape. i Then why did both Democrats And Republicans censure him in public setting..in Congress? Hummmm? Oh..and you seemed to have missed the drunk part as well. Drinking ages are 16 where you live? Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:22:49 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote: In article , Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:44:10 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: Nope..not if it occured in an area where the age of consent is over 16. And getting the kid drunk..is definately illegal. But it isn't rape of any kind. Actually..in most states..it most certainly was/is. So its ok to rape a boy that you got drunk, right? So, what's the point of this exchange? She was there. You were not. What is the point? Good question. Why DID you join in? I used Studds as an example of Leftwing degeneracy..and you go defending it. So you approve of degeneracy..or do you simply give leftwingers a pass on it? Well, in this particular case, I have direct information, which was in short supply. And the voters in Studds' district clearly didn't think it was as serious as you do, and they were there, and had a direct stake in the outcome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds "Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure." I actually recall reading about this back then. Notice the part "following his congressional censure" Why did Congress censure him? Jealousy?? For embarrassing them, one assumes. How could they be embarressed if the kid was sober and of legal age? Hummm? Anyway, read the whole Wiki article. Ive read EVERY article on this now fortunately dead, piece of ****. Joe Gwinn "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 23, 3:05 pm, Hawke wrote: Libel is the written defamation of character. You need to be more careful. Dan No I don't. I'm not legally liable because all I did is relate what I heard Mr. Donatelli say on the Lars Larsen radio show. Hawke / /The words you used went beyond relating what you heard. You made a /couple of statements that indicated that you believed that Graham is /gay. Now your lawyer might convince a jury that you were not defaming /Mr Graham, but then again he might not. / / Dan Is stating you think someone is gay defamation of character? Seems gay is nearly equal rights with heterosexual these days, or at least on the way of getting there. I'm not sure but what a gay group might try to accuse a politician of defaming them if he claimed he was gay :-) Getting to be a pretty twisted world. RogerN |
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