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USDA Climate Zone Changes 1990 to 2006
"columbiaaccidentinvestigation" wrote in message ... On Jan 19, 3:41 am, "HH&C" wrote: On Jan 19, 2:15 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Jan 18, 7:54 pm, "HH&C" wrote: On Jan 18, 6:00 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Jan 18, 2:37 pm, "HH&C" wrote: On Jan 18, 5:28 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Jan 18, 2:16 pm, "HH&C" wrote: On Jan 18, 11:24 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Jan 18, 7:55 am, "HH&C" wrote: On Jan 18, 10:04 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Jan 18, 6:40 am, "HH&C" wrote:"At the time the Constitution was written people were streaming across the border to dig in the dirt and plant seeds, and practice their own version of Christianity. Today they are streaming across the border to get food stamps.Fair enough. Show me where it is allowed at the present time." wow, thats funny, i see people first or second generation here working hard, and partaking in our economy, i see them every day, they are my neighbors. So i am supposed to show you were creation of a social safety net is allowed at the present time, that’s cool. You should read about the supreme courts decision on United States v. Butler, 297 U.S. 1 (1936), and how that ruling declared congressional powers are not limited to direct grants in the constitution. Like I said, show where in the Constitution your social safety net is allowed or mandated. Show where the Constitution does not limit the power of the Fed and reserve it for the people and/or for the states. i showed you the case was made in 1936, by same branch of government who decided a presidential election, you remember the judicial branch, it was set up in our constitution. So now the Supreme Court gets to edit the Constitution? OK. Again, show me where they edited the Constitution.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so based on that same logic you should show me where the constitution mandated the supreme court could decide a presidential election. That is your game. Tell me more about the constitutionally mandated social safety net. Maybe you need to learn a little more before you reply again. I am trying to learn more. Specifically, I want to know where in the constitution I can read up on this social safety net that you keep referring to. We could save a lot of time if you were able to show it to me.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - the point is the court case i previously cited from the supreme court showed congress has the power to do so. You are attempting to make a myopic argument, where you are not recognizing the supreme courts power to make such a ruling. You are correct. That is exctly what I am saying. Now if every you were ok with the courts ruling in gore vs bush, as the supreme court was not constitutional mandated to make a choice on our nations presidency, but you dont recognize its statement when it ruled in the case i mentioned before, because its not constitutionaly mandated, it seems you want it both ways. Not to logical on your part. You are not logical. You are making the claim that SCOTUS is always right or always wrong. You're wasting my time, kid.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are wasting your own time if you continue to use your terrible reasoning in discussions. And i made no such claim, what i stated was you want it both ways, ie only constitutionaly mandated for one case, Please remind me again why the Congress trumps the Constitution. but when i pointed out a decision that was not contstitutionaly mandated, you cut and run. Look, kid, I've been kind enough to stay by your side through this whole thing. So yes you need to learn some more, until then, you got nothing boy. The Constitution limits the government's power. The Supreme Court decision you refer to is not consistent with that theme. Do you understand this?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - i dont care about your so called restraint, what you should care about is your idiotic bs, and the terrible logic you are basing your argument on.. So why dont you admit that in 1936 the supreme court made a ruling that directly addresses this "theme", and that is currently the rule of law. Meaning you will need another case infront of the supreme court, or a constitutional amendment. reply: For purporting to be an educated person, your English is horrible. Steve |
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