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Shaded pole motors
Buddy at work has a blower motor for his pellet stove that has given up the ghost. A call
around finds the blower is OEM only at $312.00 or so. This buys the motor, housing and fan. He just needs a motor. Grainger had something close he is going to try to make work but just in case that fails, anyone know other good sources for shaded pole motors in qty one? Wes -- The only thing Obama has fixed is Carter's reputation. |
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On Dec 12, 1:22*am, Wes wrote:
anyone know other good sources for shaded pole motors in qty one? Wes -- The only thing Obama has fixed is Carter's reputation. Try Herbach and Rademan Look at both motors and fans/blowers. http://www.herbach.com/Merchant2/mer...Store_Code=HAR Dan |
Shaded pole motors
"Wes" wrote in message ... Buddy at work has a blower motor for his pellet stove that has given up the ghost. A call around finds the blower is OEM only at $312.00 or so. This buys the motor, housing and fan. He just needs a motor. Grainger had something close he is going to try to make work but just in case that fails, anyone know other good sources for shaded pole motors in qty one? Wes -- The only thing Obama has fixed is Carter's reputation. Home Depot, lowes, home supply. Most any bathroom fan motor is a shaded pole motor. |
Shaded pole motors
On Dec 11, 5:22*pm, Wes wrote:
Buddy at work has a blower motor for his pellet stove that has given up the ghost. *A call around finds the blower is OEM only at $312.00 or so. This buys the motor, housing and fan. *He just needs a motor. *Grainger had something close he is going to try to make work but just in case that fails, anyone know other good sources for shaded pole motors in qty one? Wes -- The only thing Obama has fixed is Carter's reputation. Are these the German made blowers/motors like we had on an old pellet stove? Paul |
Shaded pole motors
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Wes wrote: Buddy at work has a blower motor for his pellet stove that has given up the ghost. A call around finds the blower is OEM only at $312.00 or so. This buys the motor, housing and fan. He just needs a motor. Grainger had something close he is going to try to make work but just in case that fails, anyone know other good sources for shaded pole motors in qty one? Wes -- The only thing Obama has fixed is Carter's reputation. Hmmm... seems like I remember McMaster Carr having pages of them, but I just looked and didn't find any. How bout that. However, if you just plug "shaded pole motor" (both with and without quotes), you'll get a lot of returns. Good hunting! Erik |
Shaded pole motors
Why can it not be repaired? Very few electric motors cannot be repaired and unless the windings are burnt, the repair is both
cheaper and faster.This is especially true if you must adapt the drive end as well as the mount. Steve "Wes" wrote in message ... Buddy at work has a blower motor for his pellet stove that has given up the ghost. A call around finds the blower is OEM only at $312.00 or so. This buys the motor, housing and fan. He just needs a motor. Grainger had something close he is going to try to make work but just in case that fails, anyone know other good sources for shaded pole motors in qty one? Wes -- The only thing Obama has fixed is Carter's reputation. |
Shaded pole motors
Wes wrote in
: Buddy at work has a blower motor for his pellet stove that has given up the ghost. A call around finds the blower is OEM only at $312.00 or so. This buys the motor, housing and fan. He just needs a motor. Grainger had something close he is going to try to make work but just in case that fails, anyone know other good sources for shaded pole motors in qty one? Wes -- The only thing Obama has fixed is Carter's reputation. Maybe post here with make and model of stove and blower motor and see what suggestions come: http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.../viewforum/22/ A cross reference and source may have been identified by some other stove owner. North of the 49th we have http://www.alltemp.ca/pdfs/rotom99.pdf Available from motor shops and appliance repair places like Reliable Parts. Most blower motors can be substituted with a similar RPM and amperage rating in a standard frame motor if the OEM didn't use a custom shaft. Fasco should have something, odds are they probably made the original http://www.fasco.com/prodcat.asp I tried a web search for a couple random stock Fasco number and came up with hits available though Amazon. |
Shaded pole motors
I've gotten motors at Johnstone Supply, not sure if they are
nationwide. Many times, motors just dry up. The draft inducer motor dried up, on a friend's furnace. She lives alone, unemployed, and has major medical problems. I was able to disassemble the motor. Sand the shaft lightly with some emery cloth. Remove the dried oil with Qtip and some WD-40. Reoil it with Zoom Spout Turbine oil (you may substitute two stroke mixer oil, if you wish). Reassemble, and it works fine. Please try that, before spending $300. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Wes" wrote in message ... Buddy at work has a blower motor for his pellet stove that has given up the ghost. A call around finds the blower is OEM only at $312.00 or so. This buys the motor, housing and fan. He just needs a motor. Grainger had something close he is going to try to make work but just in case that fails, anyone know other good sources for shaded pole motors in qty one? Wes -- The only thing Obama has fixed is Carter's reputation. |
Shaded pole motors
I tried sending you a note directly but it bounced back - I have a nice,
new, motor from a fan assembly, with power cord, and switch - listed on my web site at $20 - if it meets your friends needs that could save him some money browse around www.wbnoble.com in the forsale section - it's there somewhere (under misc, I think) - or find my email on my web site and drop me a note and I'll send you the info directly |
Shaded pole motors
On Dec 12, 3:27*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Many times, motors just dry up. The draft inducer motor dried up, on a friend's furnace. She lives alone, unemployed, and has major medical problems. I was able to disassemble the motor. Sand the shaft lightly with some emery cloth. Remove the dried oil with Qtip and some WD-40. Reoil it with Zoom Spout Turbine oil (you may substitute two stroke mixer oil, if you wish). Reassemble, and it works fine. Second that. I recently disassembled the bathroom ventilators from two bathrooms. The shaded pole motors would run after they got started, but would not start running. The first one I just cleaned and lubricated which did not fix the problem. The second one I added a couple of very thin stainless washers to take the thrust. The motors mount with the shaft vertical. That fixed the starting problem, so I went back and did the same to the first motor. The motors are reversible shaded pole motors. How could that be, you say. Well they are actually two shaded pole motors on one shaft. Energize one motor and it runs clockwise, energize the other winding and it runs counter clockwise. Dan |
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Shaded pole motors
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:31:45 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: The motors are reversible shaded pole motors. How could that be, you say. Well they are actually two shaded pole motors on one shaft. Energize one motor and it runs clockwise, energize the other winding and it runs counter clockwise. Dan Actually, it's quite simple to design a shaded pole motor with two shading windings that can be switched for direction change. Just never seen it commercially. Mark Rand RTFM |
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On Dec 13, 2:23*am, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
wrote: ... the bathroom ventilators ... The motors are reversible shaded pole motors. *... "I gots t' know" - why would a bathroom ventilator be reversible? *Bob Actually a heater / ventilator. When it runs as a heater the air blows through a heating coil and then down into the bathroom. When it runs as a ventilator, a couple of flaps are drawn down so the air can not recirculate and the air exhausts. Dan |
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Martin Mark Rand wrote: On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:31:45 -0800 (PST), " wrote: The motors are reversible shaded pole motors. How could that be, you say. Well they are actually two shaded pole motors on one shaft. Energize one motor and it runs clockwise, energize the other winding and it runs counter clockwise. Dan Actually, it's quite simple to design a shaded pole motor with two shading windings that can be switched for direction change. Just never seen it commercially. Mark Rand RTFM |
Shaded pole motors
Mark Rand writes:
Actually, it's quite simple to design a shaded pole motor with two shading windings that can be switched for direction change. Just never seen it commercially. Never taken apart a ceiling fan but have to wonder what kind of motors luck within same... -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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Steve Lusardi wrote:
Why can it not be repaired? Very few electric motors cannot be repaired and unless the windings are burnt, the repair is both cheaper and faster.This is especially true if you must adapt the drive end as well as the mount. A lot of shaded pole motors are tack welded or pressed, ie, you can't unscrew them to access the bearings and whatnot. Same thing with washing machine/dryer motors, although some of those you can rebuild due to their size (except for the epoxied ones, those are disposable). Jon |
Shaded pole motors
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:30:51 +0000 (UTC), the infamous David Lesher
scrawled the following: Mark Rand writes: Actually, it's quite simple to design a shaded pole motor with two shading windings that can be switched for direction change. Just never seen it commercially. Never taken apart a ceiling fan but have to wonder what kind of motors luck within same... They're _electric_ David. I beleive they're called drafty pole motors with windy windings. Just thought you'd like to know. P.S: Translation for the Canuckistanis and Poms: "draughty" P.P.S: For those of you who still want to know more about the actual motors, Wikipedia has a good article discussing them briefly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceiling_fan ;) -- Don't forget the 7 P's: Proper Prior Planning Prevents ****-Poor Performance |
Shaded pole motors
The PC fans I've done, pull the plastic label and apply a
drop or two of oil for electric motors. To dissemble and clean, that's extra service which will likely give you extra life. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "David Billington" wrote in message ... I had this same conversation with a mate about 20 minutes ago regarding PC fans with sleeve bearings, in my experience shaded pole motors may have sleeve bearings also or the ball bearings and need a bit of lubrication occasionally. In the case of the PC fans it seems to be a matter of removing the makers label, then removing a plastic circlip and O ring retaining the shaft, then pulling the rotor and shaft, cleaning it of gummed up lubricant, and cleaning the oilite bearing, adding a small amount of new quality lubricant, re-assembly, and it's good to go for a few more years. Part of my 2 yearly PC health check that the fans are going round as they should do. |
Shaded pole motors
I've had some luck, blasting them clean with brake cleaner,
and then oil them up. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... A lot of shaded pole motors are tack welded or pressed, ie, you can't unscrew them to access the bearings and whatnot. Same thing with washing machine/dryer motors, although some of those you can rebuild due to their size (except for the epoxied ones, those are disposable). Jon |
Shaded pole motors
Shaded-pole motors and ceiling fan motors are not the same animal. While both are forms of induction
motors they have different starting configurations. Typically, attic ventilator motors and such are shaded-pole devices. As Dan pointed out they can be 2-directional for use in bathroom ventilators, etc. They start via the "shaded" pole and then run synchronously with the mains frequency. OTOH, many ceiling fans have more conventional induction motors with start and run windings. They are of course, reversible and speed control is via switch-stepped values of start capacitance. Bob Swinney "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... I've had some luck, blasting them clean with brake cleaner, and then oil them up. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... A lot of shaded pole motors are tack welded or pressed, ie, you can't unscrew them to access the bearings and whatnot. Same thing with washing machine/dryer motors, although some of those you can rebuild due to their size (except for the epoxied ones, those are disposable). Jon |
Shaded pole motors
Nice to see the Casablanca listed - I had a beautiful one - spent the big
bucks for it and it worked flawlessly for 17 years and sold (sob) with the house. It was a large stack metal ring set - and had three speeds that were provided by the use of high tech - oh - capacitors - that changed the impedance and allowed more or less current to flow - and current drives the motors via magnetic field strength. Martin [ holder of a nice 4 pole DC motor used for very high torque. ] Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:30:51 +0000 (UTC), the infamous David Lesher scrawled the following: Mark Rand writes: Actually, it's quite simple to design a shaded pole motor with two shading windings that can be switched for direction change. Just never seen it commercially. Never taken apart a ceiling fan but have to wonder what kind of motors luck within same... They're _electric_ David. I beleive they're called drafty pole motors with windy windings. Just thought you'd like to know. P.S: Translation for the Canuckistanis and Poms: "draughty" P.P.S: For those of you who still want to know more about the actual motors, Wikipedia has a good article discussing them briefly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceiling_fan ;) |
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