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Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes
from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil |
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"Phil Kangas" wrote in message ... Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil Uh, ask Tom Gardner ("Buerste"). He owns the company. g -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil Paging Tom...Paging Tom..you are needed in plumbing..you are needed in plumbing "Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone. I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout" Unknown Usnet Poster Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls. Keyton |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, the infamous "Phil Kangas"
scrawled the following: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil (See, Tawm? I _told_ you it was time. vbg) Phil, Burste will reply shortly to steer you to the man who can help you. He's in tight with those oHeeO brush guys. snicker -- Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil Paging Tom...Paging Tom..you are needed in plumbing..you are needed in plumbing Clean up on isle 3! |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, the infamous "Phil Kangas" scrawled the following: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil (See, Tawm? I _told_ you it was time. vbg) Phil, Burste will reply shortly to steer you to the man who can help you. He's in tight with those oHeeO brush guys. snicker -- Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. As soon as we get a breather on overtime I will try to get the stuff you need to do the website. I didn't learn procrastination, I TEACH it! |
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Buerste wrote:
"the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) --Winston |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil Hey Phil, If you haven't got him yet, try Tom at both these emails. Ohio Brush is in the Cleveland, Ohio area. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:46:30 -0800, Winston wrote:
Buerste wrote: "the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) You can get good quality stuff out of China. You can get astoundingly _bad_ quality stuff out of China, too. It depends on how well and how closely you ride the suppliers -- they'll send the lowest quality stuff they can get away with. If the Chinese took pride in their work we'd be in a lot sorrier shape as a manufacturing country ('we' being damn near any English-speaking country). So don't laugh too loud. -- www.wescottdesign.com |
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"Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:46:30 -0800, Winston wrote: Buerste wrote: "the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) You can get good quality stuff out of China. You can get astoundingly _bad_ quality stuff out of China, too. It depends on how well and how closely you ride the suppliers -- they'll send the lowest quality stuff they can get away with. If the Chinese took pride in their work we'd be in a lot sorrier shape as a manufacturing country ('we' being damn near any English-speaking country). So don't laugh too loud. -- www.wescottdesign.com The Chinese will make exactly what the customer specifies. As a for instance, I could have the Chinese manufacturer quote on this brush to have 302 Stainless alloy with "X" tensile and ""Y" hardness and "Z" roundness and "A" surface finish. Each hole to have between 35 and 40 wires set with staple wire having it's own set of specs into wood or plastic handles having it's own set of specs to a depth of such-and-such +/- such-and-such, with a pull-out force of such-and-such, packaged in "A" quantity in a box of such-and-such dimensions made from "B" material thickness and crush strength, etc, etc, etc, You get the picture. OR I could RFQ on the cheapest brush possible with general specs. The Chinese don't care, they will make whatever you want to pay for. They don't make their own machines, they buy them from Germany, Italy, Belgium and the USA. Those machines don't care what material is put in them. There isn't much demand for high quality from China so US manufacturers have the edge in the high-end market. Some Chinese stuff is DAMN good but it's pricy too. The ones I buy are very good in their price range. |
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"Brian Lawson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil Hey Phil, If you haven't got him yet, try Tom at both these emails. Ohio Brush is in the Cleveland, Ohio area. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. Those are both fake e-mails after I received 10,000 e-mails per day from people that disagree with me. |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:46:30 -0800, Winston
wrote: Buerste wrote: "the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) --Winston They actually are very good quality. Ive used them. Better than Harbor Freight too. But the US made ones are farking fantastic. Tawm makes very good brushes indeed. Order some of their 2- 3" cup brushes and put em on your 4 1/2" angle grinder. They last 4:1 over the regular ones when derusting metal..at least 4:1 Put a 4" on your big angle grinder and derust a farking battle ship. All of it. And Ive had the same 6" Fine steel wheel brush on one of my grinders for...hum....5 yrs now..and its now a 5.5" steel brush and has derusted and deburred literally THOUSANDS of rusty tools, etc etc. Really really good **** Maynard. Gunner "Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone. I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout" Unknown Usnet Poster Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls. Keyton |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:37:54 -0500, "Buerste"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, the infamous "Phil Kangas" scrawled the following: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil (See, Tawm? I _told_ you it was time. vbg) Phil, Burste will reply shortly to steer you to the man who can help you. He's in tight with those oHeeO brush guys. snicker -- Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. As soon as we get a breather on overtime I will try to get the stuff you need to do the website. I didn't learn procrastination, I TEACH it! Yah know..you can have Dual websites on the same server....one for commercial accounts, one for sales. Its not a big brainer. Larry should be able to do it in a snap. Hell..you can even link to the existing photos and pictures and put different Stuff with em. Gunner "Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone. I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout" Unknown Usnet Poster Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls. Keyton |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:31:36 -0500, "Buerste"
wrote: "Brian Lawson" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil Hey Phil, If you haven't got him yet, try Tom at both these emails. Ohio Brush is in the Cleveland, Ohio area. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. Those are both fake e-mails after I received 10,000 e-mails per day from people that disagree with me. Let us know when you're ready to go retail. I'm interested, but I need a few, or a metalworking hobby assortment, not a box of 100. Thanks. Pete Keillor |
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You bring up an interesting point. I DO believe that we could do retail sales successfully and we have discussed how to formulate a plan to do that but it hasn't been a high priority. If you have any suggestions that you would like to share please send them to me at the address that you used. Tom Gardner I'm in a totally different business but I will say be careful here. We delved into shipping small quantities of apples for a while. There a LOT more labor here than you realize. AND high shipping costs made it a poor deal for the customer. My lesson here was: stick with your priorities, don't try to do all things for all people. If you could do something like internet orders only, ship one day a week, use only USPS priority mail packaging, have web site compute bill, etc. Then just maybe. Most likely you take your best person that should be doing something more important to baby sit this little monster. Karl |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:29:52 -0500, the renowned "Buerste"
wrote: "Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:46:30 -0800, Winston wrote: Buerste wrote: "the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) You can get good quality stuff out of China. You can get astoundingly _bad_ quality stuff out of China, too. It depends on how well and how closely you ride the suppliers -- they'll send the lowest quality stuff they can get away with. If the Chinese took pride in their work we'd be in a lot sorrier shape as a manufacturing country ('we' being damn near any English-speaking country). So don't laugh too loud. -- www.wescottdesign.com The Chinese will make exactly what the customer specifies. As a for instance, I could have the Chinese manufacturer quote on this brush to have 302 Stainless alloy with "X" tensile and ""Y" hardness and "Z" roundness and "A" surface finish. Each hole to have between 35 and 40 wires set with staple wire having it's own set of specs into wood or plastic handles having it's own set of specs to a depth of such-and-such +/- such-and-such, with a pull-out force of such-and-such, packaged in "A" quantity in a box of such-and-such dimensions made from "B" material thickness and crush strength, etc, etc, etc, You get the picture. OR I could RFQ on the cheapest brush possible with general specs. The Chinese don't care, they will make whatever you want to pay for. They don't make their own machines, they buy them from Germany, Italy, Belgium and the USA. Those machines don't care what material is put in them. There isn't much demand for high quality from China so US manufacturers have the edge in the high-end market. Some Chinese stuff is DAMN good but it's pricy too. The ones I buy are very good in their price range. A book worth reading for those of us doing business over the _Poorly Made in China_. See: "Quality Fade" Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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Tim Wescott wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:46:30 -0800, Winston wrote: Buerste wrote: "the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) You can get good quality stuff out of China. You can get astoundingly _bad_ quality stuff out of China, too. It depends on how well and how closely you ride the suppliers -- they'll send the lowest quality stuff they can get away with. If the Chinese took pride in their work we'd be in a lot sorrier shape as a manufacturing country ('we' being damn near any English-speaking country). So don't laugh too loud. One could also say that if the American worker had taken pride in his job (and I don't care if you are Union or not, you can care about your own work) that the American manufacturing sector could not have been so easily shipped to the third world. Once US workers were putting out 3rd world quality at first world prices, the die was cast. People didn't start buying Honda and Toyota because they liked supporting Japan, they bought thenm because they were better quality, more efficient, and cheaper. |
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There is a world of difference between cheap brushes (objects made to
look like wire brushes) and good brushes. I have a four inch stiff knotted cup brush on my angle grinder, it is in its third year of life and is not showing much wear. The previous one failed after 3-4 uses. I would like to know what exactly is the difference in manufacturing them. i |
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I was thinking that. "drywall brushes, number one!"
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Winston" wrote in message ... Buerste wrote: "the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) --Winston |
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Tim Wescott wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:46:30 -0800, Winston wrote: Buerste wrote: "the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) You can get good quality stuff out of China. You can get astoundingly _bad_ quality stuff out of China, too. Yup. I haven't paid for any good quality stuff from China but the medium quality stuff has suited my purposes just fine and has been worth the money. I've also paid top dollar for crap made in China (but I don't buy Sears electric drills any more.) It depends on how well and how closely you ride the suppliers -- they'll send the lowest quality stuff they can get away with. The lowest quality you are willing to pay for, yes? If the Chinese took pride in their work we'd be in a lot sorrier shape as a manufacturing country ('we' being damn near any English-speaking country). As others have said, you get what you pay for. That is a worldwide phenomenon and has nothing to do with Pride. Before the most recent economic bloodbath, I took great Pride in doing an excellent job for my employer. 'An excellent job' was not required or desired, though. It was considered threatening, apparently. Who knew? So don't laugh too loud. I was amused by Tawm's Freudian slip. I knew he meant to say 'very good quality' but the phrase 'very good quantity' made me giggle. The Sleeping Giant is awake and just had his first cup of coffee. I don't find that funny in the least. --Winston |
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When just 1 or 2 brushes will help get the job finished, KD Tools #2309 may
be available at an auto parts store. The KD brushes are made in the USA (at least recently), with ss bristles and a very durable hardwood handle, about $5.50 each, mounted on a blister card. The local autobody supplies dealer has had them regularly for a number of years. I generally always buy 1 or more when I'm there, because if products aren't selling, many places will stop stocking them. They're great for a lot of other purposes (soldering, cleaning files etc), so they're handy to have around. I try to leave at least one new one in the package for aluminum work (not contaminated). -- WB .......... metalworking projects www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html "Phil Kangas" wrote in message ... Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil |
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Buerste wrote:
You bring up an interesting point. I DO believe that we could do retail sales successfully and we have discussed how to formulate a plan to do that but it hasn't been a high priority. If you have any suggestions that you would like to share please send them to me at the address that you used. I believe you could do well with a good internet site, and hope such an effort works it's way up the priority ladder. Jon |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:29:52 -0500, Buerste wrote:
"Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:46:30 -0800, Winston wrote: Buerste wrote: "the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) You can get good quality stuff out of China. You can get astoundingly _bad_ quality stuff out of China, too. It depends on how well and how closely you ride the suppliers -- they'll send the lowest quality stuff they can get away with. If the Chinese took pride in their work we'd be in a lot sorrier shape as a manufacturing country ('we' being damn near any English-speaking country). So don't laugh too loud. -- www.wescottdesign.com The Chinese will make exactly what the customer specifies. As a for instance, I could have the Chinese manufacturer quote on this brush to have 302 Stainless alloy with "X" tensile and ""Y" hardness and "Z" roundness and "A" surface finish. Each hole to have between 35 and 40 wires set with staple wire having it's own set of specs into wood or plastic handles having it's own set of specs to a depth of such-and-such +/- such-and-such, with a pull-out force of such-and-such, packaged in "A" quantity in a box of such-and-such dimensions made from "B" material thickness and crush strength, etc, etc, etc, You get the picture. OR I could RFQ on the cheapest brush possible with general specs. The Chinese don't care, they will make whatever you want to pay for. They don't make their own machines, they buy them from Germany, Italy, Belgium and the USA. Those machines don't care what material is put in them. There isn't much demand for high quality from China so US manufacturers have the edge in the high-end market. Some Chinese stuff is DAMN good but it's pricy too. The ones I buy are very good in their price range. The little bit of direct experience that I have, backed up in the main by friends and acquaintances who are responsible for getting quality parts out of China, is that you still have to ride them. Like any other supplier the quality of the parts you get will slowly go down until you start to bitch, at which point it will (hopefully) go up. It's just that the definition of "slowly" varies by company and country. -- www.wescottdesign.com |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:29:52 -0500, Buerste wrote:
"Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:46:30 -0800, Winston wrote: Buerste wrote: "the Chinese brushes we carry are of very good quantity." (Giggle) You can get good quality stuff out of China. You can get astoundingly _bad_ quality stuff out of China, too. It depends on how well and how closely you ride the suppliers -- they'll send the lowest quality stuff they can get away with. If the Chinese took pride in their work we'd be in a lot sorrier shape as a manufacturing country ('we' being damn near any English-speaking country). So don't laugh too loud. -- www.wescottdesign.com The Chinese will make exactly what the customer specifies. As a for instance, I could have the Chinese manufacturer quote on this brush to have 302 Stainless alloy with "X" tensile and ""Y" hardness and "Z" roundness and "A" surface finish. Each hole to have between 35 and 40 wires set with staple wire having it's own set of specs into wood or plastic handles having it's own set of specs to a depth of such-and-such +/- such-and-such, with a pull-out force of such-and-such, packaged in "A" quantity in a box of such-and-such dimensions made from "B" material thickness and crush strength, etc, etc, etc, You get the picture. OR I could RFQ on the cheapest brush possible with general specs. The Chinese don't care, they will make whatever you want to pay for. They don't make their own machines, they buy them from Germany, Italy, Belgium and the USA. Those machines don't care what material is put in them. There isn't much demand for high quality from China so US manufacturers have the edge in the high-end market. Some Chinese stuff is DAMN good but it's pricy too. The ones I buy are very good in their price range. The little bit of direct experience that I have, backed up in the main by friends and acquaintances who are responsible for getting quality parts out of China, is that you still have to ride them. Like any other supplier the quality of the parts you get will slowly go down until you start to bitch, at which point it will (hopefully) go up. It's just that the definition of "slowly" varies by company and country. -- www.wescottdesign.com |
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On 2009-11-30, Jon Anderson wrote:
Buerste wrote: You bring up an interesting point. I DO believe that we could do retail sales successfully and we have discussed how to formulate a plan to do that but it hasn't been a high priority. If you have any suggestions that you would like to share please send them to me at the address that you used. I believe you could do well with a good internet site, and hope such an effort works it's way up the priority ladder. I am with Karl here and I think that retail selling will be a very expensive distraction. i |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:53:01 -0600, Pete Keillor
wrote: Let us know when you're ready to go retail. I'm interested, but I need a few, or a metalworking hobby assortment, not a box of 100. Thanks. The assortment idea is good, but if they are buying direct from the manufacturer they should expect to stock up a bit to get the good 'trade' prices. If they want ONE Piece, send them to a retailer. And tradesmen use their specialized products more than the average hobbyist - I could go through a pack of ten "stainless toothbrushes" in a reasonable period, because I use them whenever I work with any aluminum wire. (As it is now, it's a pain to find the perfect sized ones, or you have to buy a 3-pack with a brass and a steel that get thrown away. So I use them till they fall apart, bristles all bent back...) Make a reasonable quantity small pack like three to ten per style for the scratch and scrub and sweep products, and stick with it. For instance, if your hundred pack hand brushes are machine packaged in cartons by making ten layers of ten in a 18X18X18 carton seperated by cardboard buffer sheets, order the same sized cartons but only one layer deep - 18x18x2. Then all you have to modify on the packing line is pull and tape the box every pick, rather than 9 sheets of seperator cardboard and then pick. And then lower the same box sealing machine to flip the flaps and tape/staple closed a short box of the same LxW dimensions. Selling singles from open boxes can be done, but picking and packing and inventory management will drive you mad - unless you want to hire a kid or a retiree to handle it. You want to just grab the little box, slap on a label, and drop it into the "UPS Out" bin. -- Bruce -- |
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"Pete Keillor" wrote in message On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:31:36 -0500, "Buerste" wrote: "Brian Lawson" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil Hey Phil, If you haven't got him yet, try Tom at both these emails. Ohio Brush is in the Cleveland, Ohio area. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. Those are both fake e-mails after I received 10,000 e-mails per day from people that disagree with me. Let us know when you're ready to go retail. I'm interested, but I need a few, or a metalworking hobby assortment, not a box of 100. Thanks. Pete Keillor I can see now how retail can be a royal goatf..k to deal with..;)) I'd be tickled pink to find USA brushes at the local Fastenal. Forney and Weiler are made in Mexico, at least the ones I have now are anyway. Several years ago I got some from Northen Hydraulics and they were the absolute worst! I declared them government certified safe for unsupervised tooth brushing by young children! The wires bent and stayed bent on the palm of my hand! Silky soft firewood.......:(( phil |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:37:54 -0500, "Buerste" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, the infamous "Phil Kangas" scrawled the following: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil (See, Tawm? I _told_ you it was time. vbg) Phil, Burste will reply shortly to steer you to the man who can help you. He's in tight with those oHeeO brush guys. snicker -- Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. As soon as we get a breather on overtime I will try to get the stuff you need to do the website. I didn't learn procrastination, I TEACH it! Yah know..you can have Dual websites on the same server....one for commercial accounts, one for sales. Its not a big brainer. Larry should be able to do it in a snap. Hell..you can even link to the existing photos and pictures and put different Stuff with em. Gunner The trouble is that to do web/retail sales the orders are very small and we don't do small orders. we would have to build a whole new system. Did you get my email about FFL? |
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"Ignoramus2298" wrote in message ... There is a world of difference between cheap brushes (objects made to look like wire brushes) and good brushes. I have a four inch stiff knotted cup brush on my angle grinder, it is in its third year of life and is not showing much wear. The previous one failed after 3-4 uses. I would like to know what exactly is the difference in manufacturing them. i There are some differences in methodology but the wire is the big difference. Imports use wire that I could buy for $0.50/lb I use wire that costs $6 to $9/lb. The alloy and temper are very specific to the brush being made. I use different wire for 4" knot cups than for 6" knot cups, otherwise it would fracture or wear wrong and not cut correctly. |
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On 2009-12-01, Buerste wrote:
"Ignoramus2298" wrote in message ... There is a world of difference between cheap brushes (objects made to look like wire brushes) and good brushes. I have a four inch stiff knotted cup brush on my angle grinder, it is in its third year of life and is not showing much wear. The previous one failed after 3-4 uses. I would like to know what exactly is the difference in manufacturing them. i There are some differences in methodology but the wire is the big difference. Imports use wire that I could buy for $0.50/lb I use wire that costs $6 to $9/lb. The alloy and temper are very specific to the brush being made. I use different wire for 4" knot cups than for 6" knot cups, otherwise it would fracture or wear wrong and not cut correctly. So, what is the difference between those wire types? Alloy ingredients? i |
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"Ignoramus2298" wrote in message ... On 2009-12-01, Buerste wrote: "Ignoramus2298" wrote in message ... There is a world of difference between cheap brushes (objects made to look like wire brushes) and good brushes. I have a four inch stiff knotted cup brush on my angle grinder, it is in its third year of life and is not showing much wear. The previous one failed after 3-4 uses. I would like to know what exactly is the difference in manufacturing them. i There are some differences in methodology but the wire is the big difference. Imports use wire that I could buy for $0.50/lb I use wire that costs $6 to $9/lb. The alloy and temper are very specific to the brush being made. I use different wire for 4" knot cups than for 6" knot cups, otherwise it would fracture or wear wrong and not cut correctly. So, what is the difference between those wire types? Alloy ingredients? i A lot of wire that ends up in import brushes comes from the tire industry. When they make steel belts they use 20 to 50 spools of wire at a time. When the first spool runs out they scrap all the rest. Otherwise, the stoppages to change each spool as it runs out would kill production. This scrap goes into the cheap brush industry. Often it is brass plated. It's a hard-drawn steel rather than oil tempered alloy. I use some hard-drawn but it's made to different specs just for brush wire. Some foreign manufacturers make good stuff but like American made good stuff, it's just not available to consumers and is sold for professional use at a much higher cost. Not too many people understand the difference between a $5 brush and a $25 brush...they look the same. |
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On 2009-12-01, Buerste wrote:
A lot of wire that ends up in import brushes comes from the tire industry. When they make steel belts they use 20 to 50 spools of wire at a time. When the first spool runs out they scrap all the rest. Otherwise, the stoppages to change each spool as it runs out would kill production. This scrap goes into the cheap brush industry. Often it is brass plated. It's a hard-drawn steel rather than oil tempered alloy. I use some hard-drawn but it's made to different specs just for brush wire. Some foreign manufacturers make good stuff but like American made good stuff, it's just not available to consumers and is sold for professional use at a much higher cost. Not too many people understand the difference between a $5 brush and a $25 brush...they look the same. Thanks Tom. I did not understand the difference until I bought the expensive one from McMaster-Carr. That one is made by Weiler. i |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:15:12 -0800, the infamous Jon Anderson
scrawled the following: Buerste wrote: You bring up an interesting point. I DO believe that we could do retail sales successfully and we have discussed how to formulate a plan to do that but it hasn't been a high priority. If you have any suggestions that you would like to share please send them to me at the address that you used. I believe you could do well with a good internet site, and hope such an effort works it's way up the priority ladder. Let me echo that. ;) (Sincerely) -- Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:40:50 -0500, "Buerste"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:37:54 -0500, "Buerste" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, the infamous "Phil Kangas" scrawled the following: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil (See, Tawm? I _told_ you it was time. vbg) Phil, Burste will reply shortly to steer you to the man who can help you. He's in tight with those oHeeO brush guys. snicker -- Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. As soon as we get a breather on overtime I will try to get the stuff you need to do the website. I didn't learn procrastination, I TEACH it! Yah know..you can have Dual websites on the same server....one for commercial accounts, one for sales. Its not a big brainer. Larry should be able to do it in a snap. Hell..you can even link to the existing photos and pictures and put different Stuff with em. Gunner The trouble is that to do web/retail sales the orders are very small and we don't do small orders. we would have to build a whole new system. Indeed. Ive been following the thread closely. Did you get my email about FFL? Did you get my lengthy response? Gunner "Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone. I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout" Unknown Usnet Poster Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls. Keyton |
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"Ignoramus2298" wrote in message ... On 2009-12-01, Buerste wrote: A lot of wire that ends up in import brushes comes from the tire industry. When they make steel belts they use 20 to 50 spools of wire at a time. When the first spool runs out they scrap all the rest. Otherwise, the stoppages to change each spool as it runs out would kill production. This scrap goes into the cheap brush industry. Often it is brass plated. It's a hard-drawn steel rather than oil tempered alloy. I use some hard-drawn but it's made to different specs just for brush wire. Some foreign manufacturers make good stuff but like American made good stuff, it's just not available to consumers and is sold for professional use at a much higher cost. Not too many people understand the difference between a $5 brush and a $25 brush...they look the same. Thanks Tom. I did not understand the difference until I bought the expensive one from McMaster-Carr. That one is made by Weiler. i Carl Weiler is so anal he inspects items on the shelf to make sure the labels are perfectly straight. They are at least 20 times my size and tolerate NO small orders or even direct contact with the plant. But they do have application engineers for their customers to maximize their operation. They will refer people to their dealer network. A class act! ...except they will slit your throat in a millisecond to steal a customer. All of the American manufacturers buy wire from the same domestic suppliers for the good stuff. That's why if you get a Weiler, Pferd-Milwaukee, Osborn or Ohio, the brushes use the same or similar wire and will perform about the same. The real trick is matching the right brush with the right wire diameter, alloy and temper, at the right RPM, the right pressure, to the application. Well, I know you have already learned that! |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:15:12 -0800, the infamous Jon Anderson scrawled the following: Buerste wrote: You bring up an interesting point. I DO believe that we could do retail sales successfully and we have discussed how to formulate a plan to do that but it hasn't been a high priority. If you have any suggestions that you would like to share please send them to me at the address that you used. I believe you could do well with a good internet site, and hope such an effort works it's way up the priority ladder. Let me echo that. ;) (Sincerely) -- Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. We want to redo the existing site and start a new business with a new name and all. Unfortunately, we don't have "Romantic" products. Sister Pat has an MBA in Marketing so she has to develop the business plan. I think we need a number of "Me-To" items that will be symbiotic with our products. The Food Service market is a ****-load bigger than industrial or home-shop. And, 80% of my products go into Food Service. If it was up to me, I would abandon the hardware market entirely. We'll see, as soon as we catch up. I do feel guilty being so stuffed in this economy, I know people are hurting...but, they STILL go out to eat! Go figure. |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... Did you get my lengthy response? Gunner Guess not, please resend. |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:39:43 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . Did you get my lengthy response? Gunner Guess not, please resend. Will do. Gunner "Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone. I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout" Unknown Usnet Poster Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls. Keyton |
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On 2009-12-01, Buerste wrote:
Carl Weiler is so anal he inspects items on the shelf to make sure the labels are perfectly straight. They are at least 20 times my size and tolerate NO small orders or even direct contact with the plant. But they do have application engineers for their customers to maximize their operation. They will refer people to their dealer network. A class act! ...except they will slit your throat in a millisecond to steal a customer. All of the American manufacturers buy wire from the same domestic suppliers for the good stuff. That's why if you get a Weiler, Pferd-Milwaukee, Osborn or Ohio, the brushes use the same or similar wire and will perform about the same. The real trick is matching the right brush with the right wire diameter, alloy and temper, at the right RPM, the right pressure, to the application. Well, I know you have already learned that! OK, good to know. The difference between good and bad brushes is night and day. I remember how you explained that a brush will last longer on a 1 HP, 3450 RPM motor than on a 1/2 HP 1740 RPM motor, that was a revelation. (and an advice that worked great for me). i |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:40:50 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:37:54 -0500, "Buerste" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:19:04 -0500, the infamous "Phil Kangas" scrawled the following: Does anyone know how to order hand scatch brushes from this company? I've been to their wedsite but it is not of much use apparently. Last updated 10july2000. I tried contacting using the link off that website but no answer. I use the small 'toothbrush' hand brushes for tig on aluminum and in the past have found Forney and Weiler ones but the last from Fastenal were made in china! Sure they work but I'd like to find USA brushes. Ohio brush looks like they have what I want, catalog no. 300 code number 20016 but where in the world can I buy them? phil (See, Tawm? I _told_ you it was time. vbg) Phil, Burste will reply shortly to steer you to the man who can help you. He's in tight with those oHeeO brush guys. snicker -- Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. As soon as we get a breather on overtime I will try to get the stuff you need to do the website. I didn't learn procrastination, I TEACH it! Most of my clients teach it. DAMHIKT. OK, I'm going back to sleep. Yah know..you can have Dual websites on the same server....one for commercial accounts, one for sales. Its not a big brainer. Larry should be able to do it in a snap. Hell..you can even link to the existing photos and pictures and put different Stuff with em. Gunner The trouble is that to do web/retail sales the orders are very small and we don't do small orders. we would have to build a whole new system. You need a highly paid (hah!) outside salesman to handle that for you, sir. (raises hand) -- Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. |
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