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Michael Koblic wrote:
I saw an interesting event on Jay Jeno last night: Memebrs of the five armed services were trying to open a can of cranberry sauce using a Swiss army knife. It was horrible. None of them seemed to have a clear idea how to use the can opener attachment, in fact I am pretty sure some of them used the wrong attachment. Four of them managed eventually at a cost of some injuries and the cans were mangled. One failed to empty the can in the alloted time. I wondered about the implications: Is this a reflection on general population's unfamiliarity with a can opener? Is this a reflection on basic training? Is it because the knife was *Swiss*? It cannot be because the knife was *Army* as I believe it was the Army guy who failed. I hesitate to cite stress affecting the performance of members of fighitng forces. Would members of the Special Forces have done better? One of the guys made a creditable effort to rip the can open with his bare hands but with a minimum result. How would the US Armed forces stack up against, say, the Brits or the Russians? Is this something to be concerned about? Do I have too much time on my hands? Well I decided to try it myself. Grabbed a standard can of tuna (no C sauce left), laid my Mechanics model Victorinox knife down and started the clock. 48 seconds to open the can. The trick with them is that you go forwards and rock the knife to keep it cutting. If you try going backwards you leave small slivers of lid behind. Now with the P-38 I could likely open it a lot faster. -- Steve W. |
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Beryl wrote:
Steve W. wrote: Michael Koblic wrote: I saw an interesting event on Jay Jeno last night: Memebrs of the five armed services were trying to open a can of cranberry sauce using a Swiss army knife. It was horrible. None of them seemed to have a clear idea how to use the can opener attachment, in fact I am pretty sure some of them used the wrong attachment. Four of them managed eventually at a cost of some injuries and the cans were mangled. One failed to empty the can in the alloted time. I wondered about the implications: Is this a reflection on general population's unfamiliarity with a can opener? Is this a reflection on basic training? Is it because the knife was *Swiss*? It cannot be because the knife was *Army* as I believe it was the Army guy who failed. I hesitate to cite stress affecting the performance of members of fighitng forces. Would members of the Special Forces have done better? One of the guys made a creditable effort to rip the can open with his bare hands but with a minimum result. How would the US Armed forces stack up against, say, the Brits or the Russians? Is this something to be concerned about? Do I have too much time on my hands? Well I decided to try it myself. Grabbed a standard can of tuna (no C sauce left), laid my Mechanics model Victorinox knife down and started the clock. 48 seconds to open the can. Disgraceful. I'm a bit out of practice.... Think I may have used it 20 times and I've had that type of knife about 20 years... The trick with them is that you go forwards and rock the knife to keep it cutting. If you try going backwards you leave small slivers of lid behind. I use my Victorinox "Tinkerer", it's the only can opener I have. I lost a U.S. Coast Guard can opener somewhere. It's tiny, folds, fits on a keychain. Takes easy twist-o'-the-wrist action, without bending the wrist or jacking the elbow up and down. It cuts like the Swiss Army tool, except it travels backward, clockwise around the can. It's perfect, far better than the Swiss Army opener. The P-51 I have works easier BUT it's also larger than the 38. One I used to have around was even smaller than the 38, came with a brand of sardines I used to get. The one I like the most is a larger one that has a bottle opener, the can blade and the other end is a spoon. With that one you can open the can, eat, and have ONE item to clean! Of course now I only get MREs to stock the vehicles with. They are REAL popular when we get a LONG fire call and your hungry. I have been bugging the dept to buy a case or two just to keep in the rigs. -- Steve W. |
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On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:56:46 -0500, "Steve W." wrote:
The P-51 I have works easier BUT it's also larger than the 38. One I used to have around was even smaller than the 38, came with a brand of sardines I used to get. I was a bit taken aback... Isn't it overkill to use a fighter plane to open a can of tuna?? How much tuna is left in the can afterwards? :-) Mark Rand RTFM |
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