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OT - Analysis: Fed under fire as public anger mounts
What do you think...are changes needed?
TMT Analysis: Fed under fire as public anger mounts By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer Tom Raum, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON – Suddenly the Federal Reserve is everybody's punching bag. Strip the Fed of its bank regulation powers, some in Congress are demanding. Get probing audits of its behind-the-scenes operations, others say. The chairman of the Federal Reserve Board is always fair game for criticism and second-guessing, usually over interest rate actions. But this year the criticism is much broader as Congress responds to widespread public anger that the Fed bailed out Wall Street but not ordinary Americans, and with unemployment in double digits. Former Fed chairman William McChesney Martin Jr. famously said that the central bank's job was to yank away the punchbowl just when everybody is starting to party. And while Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke has signalled the Fed will keep interest rates low for now, a round of higher rates inevitably will come. The Fed finds itself both the punchbowl keeper and the punching bag. Imagine the outcry when it does begin to crank up rates — perhaps just ahead of next year's midterm elections. Fireworks seem likely at Senate confirmation hearings early next month on President Barack Obama's nomination of Bernanke to a second four- year term as chairman. Many economists and Fed watchers say congressional efforts to rein in the Fed's powers could interfere with the central bank's ability to help guide the fragile economy to recovery. The Fed's very independence and its unique ability among U.S. institutions to create money out of thin air enabled it to act quickly to stabilize the nation's financial system after it froze up last September after the bankruptcy of the Lehman Brothers investment house, Fed backers say. "It might have been the Fed's finest moment when it had to jump into the market," said David M. Jones, a former Fed economist and president of DMJ Advisors, a Denver-based consulting firm. "We still have to wait to see how effective the Fed is in its exit strategy and whether it can keep inflation in check. But this badgering by Congress, even if there is populist sentiment, is inappropriate." The Fed's aggressive intervention also set the stage for the current criticism. Many lawmakers question whether the Fed's money machine has mainly benefited financial markets and not the broader economy. Lamakers are also peeved that the central bank acted without congressional involvement when it brokered the 2008 sale of failed investment bank Bear Stearns and engineered the rescue of insurer American International Group. Bernanke, first appointed by President George W. Bush, has worked closely with both Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Bush Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson in confronting the worst financial crisis in decades. Geithner also has gotten his share of congressional wrath, mainly for his administering of the $700 billion bank bailout fund. "In the past, the Federal Reserve was held in very high esteem," said Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, a libertarian who ran a quixotic third-party presidential campaign in 2008. Now, it's "the source of our problem," suggests Paul, author of the bestseller "End the Fed."++ Usually an outlier, Paul suddenly has found an army of at least 307 House colleagues and 30 senators marching behind his legislation to subject the Fed to intense scrutiny by Congress' Government Accountability Office. The House Financial Services Committee endorsed Paul's approach 43-26 last week over objections from its chairman, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass. The bill would authorize Congress to audit not only the Fed's lending programs but its basic decisions to set monetary policy by raising or lowering interest rates. Paul has been introducing a version every year since the early 1980s, but this is the first time it has garnered any serious attention. Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd, D-Conn., who will preside over Bernanke's confirmation hearings, has proposed legislation that would strip the Fed of its bank-regulation authority and give the Senate a role in selecting the 12 regional Federal Reserve bank presidents. Dodd says his measure would return the Fed to its core mission of setting monetary policy, claiming it proved itself "an abysmal failure" by not cracking down on risky lending practices that led to the financial meltdown. Dodd is in an extremely tight battle for re-election, even though he has served in Congress for 35 years. "I don't think it ever hurts to have a member of Congress stand up and denounce the Fed. There is a lot of anger out there, and this is basically a therapeutic gesture," said Ross Baker, a political scientist at Rutgers University. Still, Baker said, it probably isn't wise to tamper with the formula that makes the Fed "very much an anomaly in American government. It's independent, it has to be. You don't want the Fed to be under the control of the president. And it kind of sits out there — not in the executive branch, not in the legislative branch, not in the judicial branch. Sort of its own little element in the separation-of-powers constellation." While the Fed is subject to some congressional oversight, its decisions don't have to be ratified by the president or Congress. Fed officials are not paid with money appropriated by Congress. Should Bernanke be worried? "Not only should be worried, he's clearly ratcheted up his game in terms of his communications with Congress," said Norman Ornstein, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. Ornstein said the Fed bashing this time is different from before, with "a broader base of support. And it's coming from people who in the past would not have hit the Fed. There's a lot of populist anger out there — on the left, in the center and on the right. And politicians are responsive to that." ___ EDITOR'S NOTE: Tom Raum covers economics and politics for The Associated Press. |
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OT - Analysis: Fed under fire as public anger mounts
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:55:03 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools
wrote: What do you think...are changes needed? TMT snip ------------------ It is well to remember that the FRB is *NOT* an agency of the Federal Government, but a private corporation, albeit one with considerable governmental involvement [much of it one way], but one which is currently exempt from any meaningful oversight or auditing, despite their enormous socio-economic power and huge amounts of taxpayer money they control. It has been repeatedly demonstrated that the same agency *CANNOT* be both advocate and regulator with any degree of success in both roles. Examples include not only the FRB but also the FAA and the FDA. Another problem is the age and "tradition" of the FRB. It appears that agencies/organizations, like people, have a limited useful working lifespan, and the FED is now well into their dotage [established 1913]. The world and the global economy has fundamentally changed [one example is the creation of 650+ trillion dollars of derivatives] but the FRB appears determined to remain in their glory days of the 1940s and 1950s when they were exempted from GAO audit, and they operationally ran the economy of the "free world" [which was the only one that counted]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act The general rule is the publics' business must be conducted in public... As Justice Brandeis observed "sunlight is the best disinfectant." Its long past time for the FRB to make an appointment with the tanning salon. |
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OT - Analysis: Fed under fire as public anger mounts
"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ... On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:55:03 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools wrote: What do you think...are changes needed? TMT snip ------------------ It is well to remember that the FRB is *NOT* an agency of the Federal Government, but a private corporation, albeit one with considerable governmental involvement [much of it one way], but one which is currently exempt from any meaningful oversight or auditing, despite their enormous socio-economic power and huge amounts of taxpayer money they control. It has been repeatedly demonstrated that the same agency *CANNOT* be both advocate and regulator with any degree of success in both roles. Examples include not only the FRB but also the FAA and the FDA. Another problem is the age and "tradition" of the FRB. It appears that agencies/organizations, like people, have a limited useful working lifespan, and the FED is now well into their dotage [established 1913]. The world and the global economy has fundamentally changed [one example is the creation of 650+ trillion dollars of derivatives] but the FRB appears determined to remain in their glory days of the 1940s and 1950s when they were exempted from GAO audit, and they operationally ran the economy of the "free world" [which was the only one that counted]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act The general rule is the publics' business must be conducted in public... As Justice Brandeis observed "sunlight is the best disinfectant." Its long past time for the FRB to make an appointment with the tanning salon. And what is it that you propose, George? The Fed was created because political "oversight" turned the US economy, and our currency, into a political ping-pong ball. The wealthy financial institutions basically ran our economy as their private fiefdom, for the sole purpose of enriching themselves. To put it in the hands of Congress has proven to be the equivalent of putting it in the hands of Wall Street bankers. We've been through this argument since the days of Thomas Jefferson -- particularly since Andrew Jackson -- and the result of politicizing the national banks was a consistent string of disasters. The current Fed is an imperfect institution that was considered to be the least of several possible evils. I think it still is. Do you have a better idea? -- Ed Huntress |
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OT - Analysis: Fed under fire as public anger mounts
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:12:01 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: snip The current Fed is an imperfect institution that was considered to be the least of several possible evils. I think it still is. Do you have a better idea? snip ============== The problem appears to be that the circumstances and conditions under which the FRB was created and later developed have so greatly changed that is rapidly becoming obsolete. It also appears to have been "captured" by the institutions it was intended to regulate, i.e. the megabanks, and the FRB refuses to use its regulatory authority in many critical cases. One of the more egregious is their current failure to use their existing regulatory authority to increase margin requirements to 100% [i.e. no borrowed money] for stock purchases, and by extension, bonds, and commodity futures purchases. Indeed, given the multi year supply of housing and commercial real estate now existing, it would appear logical for the FRB to ban lending for "spec" housing/real estate developments for the next several years. At the very least, the FRB should not be allowed to operate in total secrecy with unstated objectives and motives. |
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OT - Analysis: Fed under fire as public anger mounts
"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ... On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:12:01 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: snip The current Fed is an imperfect institution that was considered to be the least of several possible evils. I think it still is. Do you have a better idea? snip ============== The problem appears to be that the circumstances and conditions under which the FRB was created and later developed have so greatly changed that is rapidly becoming obsolete. If it is, George, that still leaves unanswered the question of what we would replace it with. The semi-autonomy of the FRB is its strength -- the thing that has made our currency the most desired in the world. Despite all of the saber-rattling, neither China nor the EU can do anything about it. That's because they've screwed up their *own* currencies so often, and for so long, that they can't build any trust in them. And despite the current crisis, caused by the lack of regulation, they still keep our currency from collapsing in even severe recessions, such as this one. If we were on the yuan right now, with our currency pegged to someone *else's* currency, and with no free market for currency exchange (like the situation with China), what would have happened? We'd need a wheelbarrow full of remnimbi to buy a loaf of bread. Nobody would trust it, since it was under political control by a country that's shown no sense of responsibility to the world's banking system -- except to keep it healthy enough for them to rip it off. It also appears to have been "captured" by the institutions it was intended to regulate, i.e. the megabanks, and the FRB refuses to use its regulatory authority in many critical cases. They can't make sudden changes. They have to be gradual, or see the above. One of the more egregious is their current failure to use their existing regulatory authority to increase margin requirements to 100% [i.e. no borrowed money] for stock purchases, and by extension, bonds, and commodity futures purchases. Kiss of death. You'd lock up the stock market like a vault. Indeed, given the multi year supply of housing and commercial real estate now existing, it would appear logical for the FRB to ban lending for "spec" housing/real estate developments for the next several years. Great. You'd lock up the housing market like a vault. You'd kill construction completely, and start another round of dominoes falling like there's no tomorrow. At the very least, the FRB should not be allowed to operate in total secrecy with unstated objectives and motives. It's weird, it's annoying, it's even angering, but secrecy is how they keep the game rolling along. If everything was transparent, arbitrage would become our national sport, until the large financial institutions had completely beggared us all. There is a lot to this argument but the big thing is that the entire world economy is highly dependent upon an enormous and complex system of international credit. Who do you want to see in charge? Politicians? Financial institutions themselves? Be careful what you wish for. We're between a rock and a hard place, but the alternatives are to watch the whole system collapse, along with our jobs, all investment, currency stability, and the rest of what makes the world go 'round. -- Ed Huntress |
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OT - Analysis: Fed under fire as public anger mounts
On Nov 22, 11:12*am, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"F. George McDuffee" wrote in messagenews:9bqig5tds92tc0ke42284o7ddvkvv6vn8b@4ax .com... On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:55:03 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools wrote: What do you think...are changes needed? TMT snip ------------------ It is well to remember that the FRB is *NOT* an agency of the Federal Government, but a private corporation, albeit one with considerable governmental involvement [much of it one way], but one which is currently exempt from any meaningful oversight or auditing, despite their enormous socio-economic power and huge amounts of taxpayer money they control. It has been repeatedly demonstrated that the same agency *CANNOT* be both advocate and regulator with any degree of success in both roles. *Examples include not only the FRB but also the FAA and the FDA. Another problem is the age and "tradition" of the FRB. It appears that agencies/organizations, like people, have a limited useful working lifespan, and the FED is now well into their dotage [established 1913]. *The world and the global economy has fundamentally changed [one example is the creation of 650+ trillion dollars of derivatives] but the FRB appears determined to remain in their glory days of the 1940s and 1950s when they were exempted from GAO audit, and they operationally ran the economy of the "free world" [which was the only one that counted]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act The general rule is the publics' business must be conducted in public... *As Justice Brandeis observed "sunlight is the best disinfectant." Its long past time for the FRB to make an appointment with the tanning salon. And what is it that you propose, George? The Fed was created because political "oversight" turned the US economy, and our currency, into a political ping-pong ball. The wealthy financial institutions basically ran our economy as their private fiefdom, for the sole purpose of enriching themselves. To put it in the hands of Congress has proven to be the equivalent of putting it in the hands of Wall Street bankers. We've been through this argument since the days of Thomas Jefferson -- * particularly since Andrew Jackson -- and the result of politicizing the national banks was a consistent string of disasters. The current Fed is an imperfect institution that was considered to be the least of several possible evils. I think it still is. Do you have a better idea? -- Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Very good points from both of you...thanks, These and others are why I posted the article here...and not elsewhere. ;) TMT |
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OT - Analysis: Fed under fire as public anger mounts
On Nov 22, 1:51*pm, F. George McDuffee gmcduf...@mcduffee-
associates.us wrote: On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:12:01 -0500, "Ed wrote: snipThe current Fed is an imperfect institution that was considered to be the least of several possible evils. I think it still is. Do you have a better idea? snip ============== The problem appears to be that the circumstances and conditions under which the FRB was created and later developed have so greatly changed that is rapidly becoming obsolete. * It also appears to have been *"captured" by the institutions it was intended to regulate, i.e. the megabanks, and the FRB refuses to use its regulatory authority in many critical cases. *One of the more egregious is their current failure to use their existing regulatory authority to increase margin requirements to 100% [i.e. no borrowed money] for stock purchases, and by extension, bonds, and commodity futures purchases. *Indeed, given the multi year supply of housing and commercial real estate now existing, it would appear logical for the FRB to ban lending for "spec" housing/real estate developments for the next several years. At the very least, the FRB should not be allowed to operate in total secrecy with unstated objectives and motives. In my opinion, changing margin requirements is the #1 change needed. The easiest and the quickest...and the one change that they will fight tooth and claw to prevent from happening. TMT |
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