Hey, guys, I managed to smash a fingernail in an arbor press (strictly
from momentum in the ram) just at the base of the nail. Wiped up the
immediate blood and finished off the shipment of tachos. ;-) After
oozing blood and evil-smelling pus for a week or so, it healed up, but
now the nail is detaching from the cuticle end, leaving only about
1/4" near the finger tip attached.

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
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Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.


They make medical grade superglue. Doesn't have the wood alky in it which is poisonous to
your body.

Having said that, I've superglued a cut together and lived.

Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.


They make medical grade superglue. Doesn't have the wood alky in it which
is poisonous to
your body.

Having said that, I've superglued a cut together and lived.

Wes

Same here.

Tim wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message
...
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the
new one that is growing underneath before it catches on something
and rips the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this?
It's curling up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping
the new nail is my main worry.


They make medical grade superglue. Doesn't have the wood alky in it
which is poisonous to
your body.

Having said that, I've superglued a cut together and lived.

Wes

Same here.

Can't recall where I heard/read/saw it , but the crazy/super glues were the
result of research for alternatives to stitches after surgery .
I've glued my share of slices - broken/torn HP laminates (formica) has
wicked sharp edges , jagged too .
--
Snag
Commercial millwork involves
a lot of HP laminates ...

"Wes" wrote in message
...
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.


They make medical grade superglue. Doesn't have the wood alky in it which
is poisonous to
your body.


I was not aware that there was a toxin in regular super glue. You got a
reference? Not arguing, just asking.

On Sep 5, 1:45*pm, "Bob La Londe" wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message

...

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.

They make medical grade superglue. *Doesn't have the wood alky in it which
is poisonous to
your body.

I was not aware that there was a toxin in regular super glue. *You got a
reference? *Not arguing, just asking.

I've never heard of there being wood alcohol in superglue. The problem
is in the regular superglues some people are sensitive and have
reactions to the plastics used in the glue. The medical superglues are
using a hypoallergenic plastic. If your afraid of the regular
superglue just go buy the medical grade at your pharmacy. I think Band
Aid makes a version. Personally I usually just trim it away bit by bit
as it comes lose. Sometimes putting masking tape over the catchpoint
to prevent snagging.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superglue
Karl

"Bob La Londe" wrote:

I was not aware that there was a toxin in regular super glue. You got a
reference? Not arguing, just asking.

I was going from memory. Googling around finds papers that need an account to read. The
wikipedia article talks about three different types of superglue, one of which is the
recommended one for medical use.

Toxicity is a sliding scale. Fixing a cut is not getting you anywhere close to LD50.

A few years ago, lady at work, cut her palm open while running some forged steel parts on
a lathe. She asked me if I had superglue, I'm a maint tech so she figured I might, she
ran a bead right down the cut and pressed it together with her other hand. That had to
hurt.

She didn't die, hand didn't fall off, just wasn't the best glue for the application.

Gunner would love her, 6' 1", biker girl with a bod. Nice lady to people that treated her
decent, I'd hate to cross her though.

http://books.google.com/books?id=qDf...ski n&f=false

That is the best link I have atm.
Wes

On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 06:24:37 -0400, Wes wrote:

"Bob La Londe" wrote:

I was not aware that there was a toxin in regular super glue. You got a
reference? Not arguing, just asking.

I was going from memory. Googling around finds papers that need an account to read. The
wikipedia article talks about three different types of superglue, one of which is the
recommended one for medical use.

Toxicity is a sliding scale. Fixing a cut is not getting you anywhere close to LD50.

A few years ago, lady at work, cut her palm open while running some forged steel parts on
a lathe. She asked me if I had superglue, I'm a maint tech so she figured I might, she
ran a bead right down the cut and pressed it together with her other hand. That had to
hurt.

She didn't die, hand didn't fall off, just wasn't the best glue for the application.

Gunner would love her, 6' 1", biker girl with a bod. Nice lady to people that treated her
decent, I'd hate to cross her though.

http://books.google.com/books?id=qDf...ski n&f=false

That is the best link I have atm.
Wes


Hummm....got a link, photo or email addy of that gal? Yummmm!!!

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

Supper glue was invented as a quick life saver in War time. It then
found lots of uses. There are many thicknesses and speeds.

It is better to have medical type, but in a pinch - use what is on hand.
It can keep someone from bleeding down.

Martin

Wes wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote:

I was not aware that there was a toxin in regular super glue. You got a
reference? Not arguing, just asking.

I was going from memory. Googling around finds papers that need an account to read. The
wikipedia article talks about three different types of superglue, one of which is the
recommended one for medical use.

Toxicity is a sliding scale. Fixing a cut is not getting you anywhere close to LD50.

A few years ago, lady at work, cut her palm open while running some forged steel parts on
a lathe. She asked me if I had superglue, I'm a maint tech so she figured I might, she
ran a bead right down the cut and pressed it together with her other hand. That had to
hurt.

She didn't die, hand didn't fall off, just wasn't the best glue for the application.

Gunner would love her, 6' 1", biker girl with a bod. Nice lady to people that treated her
decent, I'd hate to cross her though.

http://books.google.com/books?id=qDf...ski n&f=false

That is the best link I have atm.
Wes

On Sep 6, 12:24*am, Wes wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote:

I was not aware that there was a toxin in regular super glue. *You got a
reference? *Not arguing, just asking.

I was going from memory. *Googling around finds papers that need an account to read. *The
wikipedia article talks about three different types of superglue, one of which is the
recommended one for medical use.

Toxicity is a sliding scale. *Fixing a cut is not getting you anywhere close to LD50.

A few years ago, lady at work, cut her palm open while running some forged steel parts on
a lathe. *She asked me if I had superglue, I'm a maint tech so she figured I might, she
ran a bead right down the cut and pressed it together with her other hand.. *That had to
hurt.

She didn't die, hand didn't fall off, just wasn't the best glue for the application. *

Gunner would love her, 6' 1", biker girl with a bod. *Nice lady to people that treated her
decent, I'd hate to cross her though. *

http://books.google.com/books?id=qDf...&lpg=PA1361&dq...

That is the best link I have atm.
Wes

I keep a bottle in my pocket. Sometimes I hold a polyethlene bag
(ziplock) on it till it cures to make a smooth surface. Seems to speed
up the cure and I don't end up glueing other objects to the wound by
accident.
Karl

On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:10:05 -0700 (PDT), kfvorwerk
wrote:

On Sep 6, 12:24*am, Wes wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote:

I was not aware that there was a toxin in regular super glue. *You got a
reference? *Not arguing, just asking.

I was going from memory. *Googling around finds papers that need an account to read. *The
wikipedia article talks about three different types of superglue, one of which is the
recommended one for medical use.

Toxicity is a sliding scale. *Fixing a cut is not getting you anywhere close to LD50.

A few years ago, lady at work, cut her palm open while running some forged steel parts on
a lathe. *She asked me if I had superglue, I'm a maint tech so she figured I might, she
ran a bead right down the cut and pressed it together with her other hand. *That had to
hurt.

She didn't die, hand didn't fall off, just wasn't the best glue for the application. *

Gunner would love her, 6' 1", biker girl with a bod. *Nice lady to people that treated her
decent, I'd hate to cross her though. *

http://books.google.com/books?id=qDf...&lpg=PA1361&dq...

That is the best link I have atm.
Wes

I keep a bottle in my pocket. Sometimes I hold a polyethlene bag
(ziplock) on it till it cures to make a smooth surface. Seems to speed
up the cure and I don't end up glueing other objects to the wound by
accident.
Karl


Im still waiting for some info on the biker chick!!!

pant pant.....slurp...!!


Gunner

"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with
minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing
clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do---
his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?"

NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates

I would get rid of the "old" nail. Clip it extra short & work it off
little by little, separating the nail & underlying skin. It wasn't
meant to be glued back together.

Bob

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.

Not sure if it'll hold, but don't see anything wrong with trying it.
Even if it does curl up the new nail growing out, that will eventually
grow out and be trimmed off.

Unless... you damaged things back where the nail is formed. I managed to
impale my thumb on a razor sharp lathe bit once, apparently right where
the nail forms. Now I have 3 thumbnails, the left thumbnail has a narrow
strip on the right side that is separate from the main nail. Grows at
the same rate, but I can move it separately.


Jon

What's that Lassie? You say that Spehro Pefhany fell down the old
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
by Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:22:11 -0400:

snip fingernail injury
I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.


I've done it on a badly torn nail. I used some plain paper as
reinforcement.
Glue, paper, dry, more glue, more dry, more glue, final dry.

Shape and smooth with fine sandpaper.
--

Dan H.

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
...
Hey, guys, I managed to smash a fingernail in an arbor press (strictly
from momentum in the ram) just at the base of the nail. Wiped up the
immediate blood and finished off the shipment of tachos. ;-) After
oozing blood and evil-smelling pus for a week or so, it healed up, but
now the nail is detaching from the cuticle end, leaving only about
1/4" near the finger tip attached.

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.



Got pictures?

I cannot visualize the nail detaching itself "backwards" although I suppose
it is possible.
IMHO that nail is gone whatever you do. At least the nail bed is not damaged
enough to prevent growth of the replacement.
Normally I would say get rid of the old nail but if it is still attached to
flesh it might be tad painful.

BTW the most common use of CA glue in my workshop is first aid. I consider
it better than Band Aids. And cheaper.

--
Michael Koblic
Campbell River, BC

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:22:11 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

Hey, guys, I managed to smash a fingernail in an arbor press (strictly
from momentum in the ram) just at the base of the nail. Wiped up the
immediate blood and finished off the shipment of tachos. ;-) After
oozing blood and evil-smelling pus for a week or so, it healed up, but
now the nail is detaching from the cuticle end, leaving only about
1/4" near the finger tip attached.

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I think it would be best to lose the old nail as soon as possible.

Option 1: pull on it to or slightly beyond the threshold of pain a
few times a day. It'll come off pretty quick.

Option 2: Take three ounces of Knob Creek orally. Superglue a stout
string onto the nail. Find a bullet to bite. Hint: the brass thingies
aren't bullets and it's unwise to bite them. Hand the string to your
wife and tell her you think she's obviously gaining weight.

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 23:01:00 -0500, the renowned Don Foreman
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:22:11 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

Hey, guys, I managed to smash a fingernail in an arbor press (strictly
from momentum in the ram) just at the base of the nail. Wiped up the
immediate blood and finished off the shipment of tachos. ;-) After
oozing blood and evil-smelling pus for a week or so, it healed up, but
now the nail is detaching from the cuticle end, leaving only about
1/4" near the finger tip attached.

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail to the new
one that is growing underneath before it catches on something and rips
the $#$# out of the end of my finger.. anyone tried this? It's curling
up a bit as it dries up, so it might end up warping the new nail is my
main worry.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I think it would be best to lose the old nail as soon as possible.

Option 1: pull on it to or slightly beyond the threshold of pain a
few times a day. It'll come off pretty quick.

Reasonable, but is it better to have it off before the new has grown
in?

Option 2: Take three ounces of Knob Creek orally. Superglue a stout
string onto the nail. Find a bullet to bite. Hint: the brass thingies
aren't bullets and it's unwise to bite them. Hand the string to your
wife and tell her you think she's obviously gaining weight.

Youch! I'm not sure the resulting 0.5" x 0.25" of raw & bloody nerve
endings would be a good alternative. Plus, she'd still be p*ssed at me
unless there was a LOT of blood.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

I'm thinking it might be prudent to superglue the dead nail [...]

I think it might be prudent to ask a doctor, especially since you have
"free" health care in Canada.


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