On Sun, 24 May 2009 14:28:59 -0400, the infamous Leon Fisk
scrawled the following:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:26:44 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:

A little bigger than your request, but Jet makes a good value milling
machine.

(I didn't see the OP.)


Don't know much about it, other than the latest Wholesale
Tool flier is the first I have seen it anywhe

Hobby Milling & Drilling Machine (JET)

Regular Price $579.00

Description:

-Cast iron design
-Powerful 150-watt DC motor

snort An enormous 1/5 horsepower!

For $80 less, HF's 44991 has 4 times the power and a bit more size.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44991

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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 14:28:59 -0400, the infamous Leon Fisk
scrawled the following:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:26:44 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:

A little bigger than your request, but Jet makes a good value milling
machine.

(I didn't see the OP.)


Don't know much about it, other than the latest Wholesale
Tool flier is the first I have seen it anywhe

Hobby Milling & Drilling Machine (JET)

Regular Price $579.00

Description:

-Cast iron design
-Powerful 150-watt DC motor

snort An enormous 1/5 horsepower!

For $80 less, HF's 44991 has 4 times the power and a bit more size.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44991

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For some good reviews visit
http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_mill/Main/mini-mill.htm

Howard Garner

On May 25, 7:35*am, Howard R Garner wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 14:28:59 -0400, the infamous Leon Fisk
scrawled the following:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:26:44 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:

A little bigger than your request, but Jet makes a good value milling
machine.

(I didn't see the OP.)

Don't know much about it, other than the latest Wholesale
Tool flier is the first I have seen it anywhe

Hobby Milling & Drilling Machine (JET)

Regular Price *$579.00

Description:

-Cast iron design
-Powerful 150-watt DC motor

snort *An enormous 1/5 horsepower!

For $80 less, HF's 44991 has 4 times the power and a bit more size.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44991

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* * * Press HERE to arm. *(Release to detonate.)
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For some good reviews visit
http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_mill/Main/mini-mill.htm

Howard Garner

This is a near copy of the old Clausing knee mill with an R8 spindle:
http://www.grizzly.com/outlet/Shop-F...0-x-34-/T20829

http://www.lathes.co.uk/clausing%20vertical/
The copy seemed more capable of a heavy cut than my 8525.

I had a similar Enco 100-5100 in a model shop I ran. The less-
important small parts were poorly made but otherwise it was a decent
mill for prototyping microwave radio components. Mills this size will
fit into places too small for a 1 ton Bridgeport.

jsw

On May 25, 7:22*am, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On May 25, 7:35*am, Howard R Garner wrote:



Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 14:28:59 -0400, the infamous Leon Fisk
scrawled the following:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:26:44 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:

A little bigger than your request, but Jet makes a good value milling
machine.

(I didn't see the OP.)

Don't know much about it, other than the latest Wholesale
Tool flier is the first I have seen it anywhe

Hobby Milling & Drilling Machine (JET)

Regular Price *$579.00

Description:

-Cast iron design
-Powerful 150-watt DC motor

snort *An enormous 1/5 horsepower!

For $80 less, HF's 44991 has 4 times the power and a bit more size.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44991

-
* * * Press HERE to arm. *(Release to detonate.)
* * * * * * * * * * *-----------

For some good reviews visit
http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_mill/Main/mini-mill.htm

Howard Garner

This is a near copy of the old Clausing knee mill with an R8 spindle:http://www.grizzly.com/outlet/Shop-F...0-x-34-/T20829

http://www.lathes.co.uk/clausing%20vertical/
The copy seemed more capable of a heavy cut than my 8525.

I had a similar Enco 100-5100 in a model shop I ran. The less-
important small parts were poorly made but otherwise it was a decent
mill for prototyping microwave radio components. Mills this size will
fit into places too small for a 1 ton Bridgeport.

jsw

I agree.

One of my smaller mills is an Enco 100-5100...put a homemade riser on
it to get more Z height and it becomes an excellent small mill with an
reasonable working envelope.

And it is easily broken down to move to basements, apartments and it
works well as a mobile mill in a tool shop van if you race.

TMT

TMT

On May 27, 11:09*pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On May 25, 7:22*am, Jim Wilkins wrote:
I had a similar [to a Clausing] Enco 100-5100 in a model shop I ran....

One of my smaller mills is an Enco 100-5100...put a homemade riser on
it to get more Z height and it becomes an excellent small mill with an
reasonable working envelope....
TMT

On that particular example the belt cover hinge was weak and the feed
handle dials didn't turn. I opened up the dial bores (with a file) and
added a thumbscrew. The only other annoyance was the 8 TPI
feedscrews.

I never pushed it hard enough to make the frame vibrate, which is the
cutting rate limit on my Clausing. When that happens switching to a
shell mill with more teeth sometimes raises the limit to motor power
or belt slip.

jsw

On May 28, 5:13*am, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On May 27, 11:09*pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:

On May 25, 7:22*am, Jim Wilkins wrote:
I had a similar [to a Clausing] Enco 100-5100 in a model shop I ran.....

One of my smaller mills is an Enco 100-5100...put a homemade riser on
it to get more Z height and it becomes an excellent small mill with an
reasonable working envelope....
TMT

On that particular example the belt cover hinge was weak and the feed
handle dials didn't turn. I opened up the dial bores (with a file) and
added a thumbscrew. The only other annoyance was the 8 TPI
feedscrews.

I never pushed it hard enough to make the frame vibrate, which is the
cutting rate limit on my Clausing. When that happens switching to a
shell mill with more teeth sometimes raises the limit to motor power
or belt slip.

jsw

Good points.

And in my opinion minor mods to an already operational mill.

To the OP, the approach I took (and the one that this group
suggested...thanks guys) is to take a hard look at what you expect to
use your mill for.

What you are trying to determine is what size of working envelope that
you need which translates into how big a table and Z height you need.

In my case I have small mills (Sherline/Unimat) for tiny work and
extreme portability, an Enco 6x26 modified with a 7" riser and a Burke
Millrite for medium sized work (both mills still portable by one man)
and finally a Bridgeport for larger work (limited portability at
best...ever carry a Bridgeport up three stories to an
apartment? ;) ).

Anything larger I farm out to a local machine shop since the need is
seldom.

Also I have a healthy selection of horizontal/vertical Atlas, Burke
and Rusnok mills dedicated to specific applications.

Does one need all these mills?

The answer is likely "No" but in my case they cover a range of work
envelopes that gives me convenience and flexibility....and you have to
remember my nym is Too_Many_Tools. ;)

TMT

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
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On May 28, 5:13 am, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On May 27, 11:09 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:

jsw

Good points.

And in my opinion minor mods to an already operational mill.

To the OP, the approach I took (and the one that this group
suggested...thanks guys) is to take a hard look at what you expect to
use your mill for.

What you are trying to determine is what size of working envelope that
you need which translates into how big a table and Z height you need.

In my case I have small mills (Sherline/Unimat) for tiny work and
extreme portability, an Enco 6x26 modified with a 7" riser and a Burke
Millrite for medium sized work (both mills still portable by one man)
and finally a Bridgeport for larger work (limited portability at
best...ever carry a Bridgeport up three stories to an
apartment? ;) ).

Anything larger I farm out to a local machine shop since the need is
seldom.

Also I have a healthy selection of horizontal/vertical Atlas, Burke
and Rusnok mills dedicated to specific applications.

Does one need all these mills?

The answer is likely "No" but in my case they cover a range of work
envelopes that gives me convenience and flexibility....and you have to
remember my nym is Too_Many_Tools. ;)

TMT
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speaking of too many tools

a friend of mine has a K&T #2H (horizontal) mill, in southern CA, that he
has decided he can't keep - figures around $450 would be a fair price - that
might make a nice mill if someone can move it out -