Milady has become a fishin' specialist. She goes for the big groupers.
Sunday we were fishin' in the channel because it was too bumpy out on
the reef. Grouper is more numerous here but it can be hard to get
legal size. "Grouper Girl" brought up about 20 vs. the other five on
the boat a total of of 4. I quit fishin' for them cause its just too
embarassing.

Anyway, on her second keeper for the day, the reel broke. With great
luck we managed to land the fish. Today was too windy to fish so I
took the Penn 7500 apart. For those that don't know, these reels are
the best there is for salt water fishing. These older ones were "Made
in USA" and built to be repaired. Today, Penn reels come from China.
"nuff said.

Anyway the bull gear from the crank rode up on the worm to the spindle
and jammed. The reel had one spacer shim in it to hold the bull tight
against the worm. I can see adding more shims would hold the gear
tighter to the worm.

Two questions. Anybody know where to get .312" OD .187" ID 0.010" or
less shims? Alternatively, how do you make this?

Second, how do you decide how many shims to add? It would be the same
kid of deal as shimming a car differential to proper clearance.

Karl

On Feb 17, 11:58*am, Karl Townsend
wrote:
Milady has become a fishin' specialist. She goes for the big groupers.
Sunday we were fishin' in the channel because it was too bumpy out on
the reef. Grouper is more numerous here but it can be hard to get
legal size. "Grouper Girl" brought up about 20 vs. the other five on
the boat a total of of 4. I quit fishin' for them cause its just too
embarassing.

Anyway, on her second keeper for the day, the reel broke. With great
luck we managed to land the fish. *Today was too windy to fish so I
took the Penn 7500 apart. For those that don't know, these reels are
the best there is for salt water fishing. These older ones were "Made
in USA" and built to be repaired. Today, Penn reels come from China.
"nuff said.

Anyway the bull gear from the crank rode up on the worm to the spindle
and jammed. The reel had one spacer shim *in it to hold the bull tight
against the worm. I can see adding more shims would hold the gear
tighter to the worm.

Two questions. Anybody know where to get .312" OD .187" ID 0.010" or
less shims? Alternatively, how do you make this?

Second, how do you decide how many shims to add? It would be the same
kid of deal as shimming a car differential to proper clearance.

Karl

I make all sorts of shim washers using my Roper-Whitney hand punch,
one of the main functions. Alternatively, HF also sells a punch set
for that sort of thing, See:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95547

This is a copy of a U.S.-made item that sold for $120 or so, the HF
number I got for $9 on sale.

Brass shim I used to get from the hardware store. You can get a number
of different sorts from Brownell's if you're up against it, it's used
for shimming sight bases among other things.

As far as determining home many of what thickness, it's a try and fit
process for most things. You can rig up some sort of jig with an
indicator to see how much end-shake you have and then add that amount
of spacers, but when it comes down to it, it's still a try and fit
operation.

Stan

Karl Townsend wrote:

Two questions. Anybody know where to get .312" OD .187" ID 0.010" or
less shims? Alternatively, how do you make this?

1. Buy some shim stock brass
2. Make a sandwich out of 1/8" AL, shim stock, 1/8" AL
3. Clamp well.
4. Drill ID
5. Put a 3/16 bolt and nut through ID
6. Chuck in lathe, turn OD

You might find your answers he
http://store.scottsbt.com/Reel-Care-W16C1.aspx

WOW, major find. Thanks. I didn't know about this.

Thanks for the tips on make your own shims, also.

Karl

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
...

You might find your answers he
http://store.scottsbt.com/Reel-Care-W16C1.aspx

WOW, major find. Thanks. I didn't know about this.

Thanks for the tips on make your own shims, also.

Karl

Scott's has a nice roller conversion kit if you're into braided lines. I'm
getting one for my 650SS. I haven't seen the one for the 4500, but it's
probably similar.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
...

You might find your answers he
http://store.scottsbt.com/Reel-Care-W16C1.aspx

WOW, major find. Thanks. I didn't know about this.

Thanks for the tips on make your own shims, also.

Karl

Scott's has a nice roller conversion kit if you're into braided lines. I'm
getting one for my 650SS. I haven't seen the one for the 4500, but it's
probably similar.

--
Ed Huntress

Oh, wait, you have a 7500. I don't know if you really need a conversion for
that one, but they have them.

--
Ed Huntress

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
news
Milady has become a fishin' specialist. She goes for the big groupers.
Sunday we were fishin' in the channel because it was too bumpy out on
the reef. Grouper is more numerous here but it can be hard to get
legal size. "Grouper Girl" brought up about 20 vs. the other five on
the boat a total of of 4. I quit fishin' for them cause its just too
embarassing.

Anyway, on her second keeper for the day, the reel broke. With great
luck we managed to land the fish. Today was too windy to fish so I
took the Penn 7500 apart. For those that don't know, these reels are
the best there is for salt water fishing. These older ones were "Made
in USA" and built to be repaired. Today, Penn reels come from China.
"nuff said.

Anyway the bull gear from the crank rode up on the worm to the spindle
and jammed. The reel had one spacer shim in it to hold the bull tight
against the worm. I can see adding more shims would hold the gear
tighter to the worm.

Two questions. Anybody know where to get .312" OD .187" ID 0.010" or
less shims? Alternatively, how do you make this?

Second, how do you decide how many shims to add? It would be the same
kid of deal as shimming a car differential to proper clearance.

Karl



A good way to make shims is to drill a hole in a steel block for both the
minor and major diameter of the size you want. Get the proper thickness
shim stock that you need and then put it over the smaller hole and put a
steel ball bearing on top and hit it with a hammer to cut out the minor
diameter. Do the same with the major diameter. Use a sufficiently larger
diameter ball as not to deform the shim stock.


John

Scott's has a nice roller conversion kit if you're into braided lines. I'm
getting one for my 650SS. I haven't seen the one for the 4500, but it's
probably similar.

--
Ed Huntress

Oh, wait, you have a 7500. I don't know if you really need a conversion for
that one, but they have them.

Are you talking the roller right at the line corner of the bail?
Standard issue on the 7500. I've also got a 4400SS that has this
roller.

We took a bicycle ride in KCB yesterday, beatiful area.

Karl

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
news

Scott's has a nice roller conversion kit if you're into braided lines.
I'm
getting one for my 650SS. I haven't seen the one for the 4500, but it's
probably similar.

--
Ed Huntress

Oh, wait, you have a 7500. I don't know if you really need a conversion
for
that one, but they have them.

Are you talking the roller right at the line corner of the bail?
Standard issue on the 7500. I've also got a 4400SS that has this
roller.

Ball bearings on the roller instead of plain bearing, different bail,
titanium line roller.

Not knowing the details of the 7500, I don't know if it's necessary for use
with braided. It is necessary on the 650SS, or you'll eat through the
original equipment in no time.

Here's the kit for the 7500:

http://store.scottsbt.com/000P24-750...-P13983C0.aspx

I'm wary of the new braided lines but I have a specific reason to try them,
because I need a casting edge. Scott's is down the shore from me but I'll
drive down sometime this spring and take a look. I tried to get down there
last year but was too busy, and I was getting along fine with monofilament,
anyway.


We took a bicycle ride in KCB yesterday, beatiful area.

Karl

I drove by around 10 years ago but I didn't get off of Rt. 1. I'd like to
see how it's changed.

--
Ed Huntress