Gun-toting good Samaritan foils Pompano Beach robbery
BY DAVID SMILEY


Police say Fabrizzo Sandovaz might want to work on his planning and
execution.

First, he forgot to put his Jeep in park when he allegedly pulled
behind Walid Hamad's car and jumped out to rob the 48-year-old Palm
Beach County man.

Second, the spot he chose for the armed robbery happened to be in the
driveway of a Pompano Beach surveillance and securities retail store
where employees are particularly active in exercising their Second
Amendment rights.

''Friday the 13th wasn't a lucky day for this robber,'' said Mike
Jachles, a spokesman with the Broward Sheriff's Office.

As Sandovaz held a gun to Hamad and told him to hand over a bag in his
car, the gunman's own vehicle slowly cruised into two parked cars
belonging to employees of IC Realtime Security Solutions, 3050 N.
Andrews Ave. extension

Hearing the crash, several employees ran outside, where they saw the
armed robbery taking place.

''We all ran outside and it so happened that one of our customers had
a license to carry and had a weapon on him,'' said Frank Fishman, a
sales representative at the store.

Within seconds, Sandovaz, 21, found himself taking orders with a gun
to his head as Everol Moulton, a store customer with a concealed
weapons permit, told Sandovaz to drop the gun and kick it toward him.

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.

Fishman said they caught up to the suspect about 150 yards down the
road, tackled him and then held him down until the Broward Sheriff's
Office arrived.

Adding insult to injury, the incident was recorded on the store's
surveillance cameras.

''This guy piked the worst place in the world,'' Fishman said,
``because most of us carry and we're security guys.''

On Feb 16, 10:16*am, Ben wrote:
Gun-toting good Samaritan foils Pompano Beach robbery
BY DAVID SMILEY


Police say Fabrizzo Sandovaz might want to work on his planning and
execution.

First, he forgot to put his Jeep in park when he allegedly pulled
behind Walid Hamad's car and jumped out to rob the 48-year-old Palm
Beach County man.

Second, the spot he chose for the armed robbery happened to be in the
driveway of a Pompano Beach surveillance and securities retail store
where employees are particularly active in exercising their Second
Amendment rights.

''Friday the 13th wasn't a lucky day for this robber,'' said Mike
Jachles, a spokesman with the Broward Sheriff's Office.

As Sandovaz held a gun to Hamad and told him to hand over a bag in his
car, the gunman's own vehicle slowly cruised into two parked cars
belonging to employees of IC Realtime Security Solutions, 3050 N.
Andrews Ave. extension

Hearing the crash, several employees ran outside, where they saw the
armed robbery taking place.

''We all ran outside and it so happened that one of our customers had
a license to carry and had a weapon on him,'' said Frank Fishman, a
sales representative at the store.

Within seconds, Sandovaz, 21, found himself taking orders with a gun
to his head as Everol Moulton, a store customer with a concealed
weapons permit, told Sandovaz to drop the gun and kick it toward him.

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.

Fishman said they caught up to the suspect about 150 yards down the
road, tackled him and then held him down until the Broward Sheriff's
Office arrived.

Adding insult to injury, the incident was recorded on the store's
surveillance cameras.

''This guy piked the worst place in the world,'' Fishman said,
``because most of us carry and we're security guys.''

So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

"RangersSuck" wrote in message
...
On Feb 16, 10:16 am, Ben wrote:

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.


So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It would be interesting to see if he is charged with the shooting. He should
be, and it should be well publicized. Anyone with a concealed carry license
should know better. He is actually damn lucky he didn't hit him.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:16:18 -0600, "Elliot G"
wrote:


"RangersSuck" wrote in message
...
On Feb 16, 10:16 am, Ben wrote:

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.


So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It would be interesting to see if he is charged with the shooting. He should
be, and it should be well publicized. Anyone with a concealed carry license
should know better. He is actually damn lucky he didn't hit him.

Monday morning quarterbacking is soo much fun, particularly when you
have almost zero data, isnt it?

Gunner





"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:16:18 -0600, "Elliot G"
wrote:


"RangersSuck" wrote in message
...
On Feb 16, 10:16 am, Ben wrote:

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.


So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It would be interesting to see if he is charged with the shooting. He
should
be, and it should be well publicized. Anyone with a concealed carry
license
should know better. He is actually damn lucky he didn't hit him.

Monday morning quarterbacking is soo much fun, particularly when you
have almost zero data, isnt it?


Don't need much data. Conceal carry is for the purpose of self defense only.
If someone is unarmed and running away, you don't need to defend yourself.

Even the police would have no right to fire on someone under the
circumstances as described.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:03:09 -0600, "Elliot G"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:16:18 -0600, "Elliot G"
wrote:


"RangersSuck" wrote in message
...
On Feb 16, 10:16 am, Ben wrote:

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.


So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It would be interesting to see if he is charged with the shooting. He
should
be, and it should be well publicized. Anyone with a concealed carry
license
should know better. He is actually damn lucky he didn't hit him.

Monday morning quarterbacking is soo much fun, particularly when you
have almost zero data, isnt it?


Don't need much data. Conceal carry is for the purpose of self defense only.
If someone is unarmed and running away, you don't need to defend yourself.

Even the police would have no right to fire on someone under the
circumstances as described.

That is actually a matter of state law. It varies from state to state.

Some allow one to shoot a fleeing felon, others do not.

Are you allowed to shoot a fleeing arsonist? And why or why not?

Use as much whitespace as necessary.

Ill give you a hint though...
"demonstratably a danger to the public at large"

You can go from there....

Gunner





"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:25:53 -0800 (PST), RangersSuck
wrote:

On Feb 16, 10:16*am, Ben wrote:
Gun-toting good Samaritan foils Pompano Beach robbery
BY DAVID SMILEY


Police say Fabrizzo Sandovaz might want to work on his planning and
execution.

First, he forgot to put his Jeep in park when he allegedly pulled
behind Walid Hamad's car and jumped out to rob the 48-year-old Palm
Beach County man.

Second, the spot he chose for the armed robbery happened to be in the
driveway of a Pompano Beach surveillance and securities retail store
where employees are particularly active in exercising their Second
Amendment rights.

''Friday the 13th wasn't a lucky day for this robber,'' said Mike
Jachles, a spokesman with the Broward Sheriff's Office.

As Sandovaz held a gun to Hamad and told him to hand over a bag in his
car, the gunman's own vehicle slowly cruised into two parked cars
belonging to employees of IC Realtime Security Solutions, 3050 N.
Andrews Ave. extension

Hearing the crash, several employees ran outside, where they saw the
armed robbery taking place.

''We all ran outside and it so happened that one of our customers had
a license to carry and had a weapon on him,'' said Frank Fishman, a
sales representative at the store.

Within seconds, Sandovaz, 21, found himself taking orders with a gun
to his head as Everol Moulton, a store customer with a concealed
weapons permit, told Sandovaz to drop the gun and kick it toward him.

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.

Fishman said they caught up to the suspect about 150 yards down the
road, tackled him and then held him down until the Broward Sheriff's
Office arrived.

Adding insult to injury, the incident was recorded on the store's
surveillance cameras.

''This guy piked the worst place in the world,'' Fishman said,
``because most of us carry and we're security guys.''

So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.


Do you have any cites as to what the backstop was? Or are you simply
talking out your ass?

Brilliant

Gunner

"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

On Feb 16, 2:30*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:25:53 -0800 (PST), RangersSuck



wrote:
On Feb 16, 10:16*am, Ben wrote:
Gun-toting good Samaritan foils Pompano Beach robbery
BY DAVID SMILEY


Police say Fabrizzo Sandovaz might want to work on his planning and
execution.

First, he forgot to put his Jeep in park when he allegedly pulled
behind Walid Hamad's car and jumped out to rob the 48-year-old Palm
Beach County man.

Second, the spot he chose for the armed robbery happened to be in the
driveway of a Pompano Beach surveillance and securities retail store
where employees are particularly active in exercising their Second
Amendment rights.

''Friday the 13th wasn't a lucky day for this robber,'' said Mike
Jachles, a spokesman with the Broward Sheriff's Office.

As Sandovaz held a gun to Hamad and told him to hand over a bag in his
car, the gunman's own vehicle slowly cruised into two parked cars
belonging to employees of IC Realtime Security Solutions, 3050 N.
Andrews Ave. extension

Hearing the crash, several employees ran outside, where they saw the
armed robbery taking place.

''We all ran outside and it so happened that one of our customers had
a license to carry and had a weapon on him,'' said Frank Fishman, a
sales representative at the store.

Within seconds, Sandovaz, 21, found himself taking orders with a gun
to his head as Everol Moulton, a store customer with a concealed
weapons permit, told Sandovaz to drop the gun and kick it toward him.

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.

Fishman said they caught up to the suspect about 150 yards down the
road, tackled him and then held him down until the Broward Sheriff's
Office arrived.

Adding insult to injury, the incident was recorded on the store's
surveillance cameras.

''This guy piked the worst place in the world,'' Fishman said,
``because most of us carry and we're security guys.''

So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

Do you have any cites as to what the backstop was? *Or are you simply
talking out your ass?

Brilliant

Gunner


Dude, the guy escaped, so I think it's safe to assume that the
backstop wasn't impervious to penetration by a human, much less a
bullet.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:03:17 -0800 (PST), RangersSuck
wrote:


So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

Do you have any cites as to what the backstop was? *Or are you simply
talking out your ass?

Brilliant

Gunner


Dude, the guy escaped, so I think it's safe to assume that the
backstop wasn't impervious to penetration by a human, much less a
bullet.

How so? Use as much whitespace necessary to show your logic train.

Gunner

"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

On Feb 21, 6:00*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:03:17 -0800 (PST), RangersSuck



wrote:

So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

Do you have any cites as to what the backstop was? *Or are you simply
talking out your ass?

Brilliant

Gunner

Dude, the guy escaped, so I think it's safe to assume that the
backstop wasn't impervious to penetration by a human, much less a
bullet.

How so? *Use as much whitespace necessary to show your logic train.

Gunner

"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

Go to maps.google.com. Enter the address of the establishment. Look at
the street view picture. Then tell me about how safe it was to be
shooting guns in that neighborhood.

On Feb 16, 2:30*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:25:53 -0800 (PST), RangersSuck



wrote:
On Feb 16, 10:16*am, Ben wrote:
Gun-toting good Samaritan foils Pompano Beach robbery
BY DAVID SMILEY


Police say Fabrizzo Sandovaz might want to work on his planning and
execution.

First, he forgot to put his Jeep in park when he allegedly pulled
behind Walid Hamad's car and jumped out to rob the 48-year-old Palm
Beach County man.

Second, the spot he chose for the armed robbery happened to be in the
driveway of a Pompano Beach surveillance and securities retail store
where employees are particularly active in exercising their Second
Amendment rights.

''Friday the 13th wasn't a lucky day for this robber,'' said Mike
Jachles, a spokesman with the Broward Sheriff's Office.

As Sandovaz held a gun to Hamad and told him to hand over a bag in his
car, the gunman's own vehicle slowly cruised into two parked cars
belonging to employees of IC Realtime Security Solutions, 3050 N.
Andrews Ave. extension

Hearing the crash, several employees ran outside, where they saw the
armed robbery taking place.

''We all ran outside and it so happened that one of our customers had
a license to carry and had a weapon on him,'' said Frank Fishman, a
sales representative at the store.

Within seconds, Sandovaz, 21, found himself taking orders with a gun
to his head as Everol Moulton, a store customer with a concealed
weapons permit, told Sandovaz to drop the gun and kick it toward him.

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.

Fishman said they caught up to the suspect about 150 yards down the
road, tackled him and then held him down until the Broward Sheriff's
Office arrived.

Adding insult to injury, the incident was recorded on the store's
surveillance cameras.

''This guy piked the worst place in the world,'' Fishman said,
``because most of us carry and we're security guys.''

So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

Do you have any cites as to what the backstop was? *Or are you simply
talking out your ass?

Brilliant

Gunner

"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

If the only bone you've got to pick here has to do with my knowledge
of the backstop and not with the fact that the guy was shooting at the
back of an unarmed man, you're a bigger ass than I previously thought.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:48:59 -0800 (PST), RangersSuck
wrote:

On Feb 16, 2:30*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:25:53 -0800 (PST), RangersSuck



wrote:
On Feb 16, 10:16*am, Ben wrote:
Gun-toting good Samaritan foils Pompano Beach robbery
BY DAVID SMILEY


Police say Fabrizzo Sandovaz might want to work on his planning and
execution.

First, he forgot to put his Jeep in park when he allegedly pulled
behind Walid Hamad's car and jumped out to rob the 48-year-old Palm
Beach County man.

Second, the spot he chose for the armed robbery happened to be in the
driveway of a Pompano Beach surveillance and securities retail store
where employees are particularly active in exercising their Second
Amendment rights.

''Friday the 13th wasn't a lucky day for this robber,'' said Mike
Jachles, a spokesman with the Broward Sheriff's Office.

As Sandovaz held a gun to Hamad and told him to hand over a bag in his
car, the gunman's own vehicle slowly cruised into two parked cars
belonging to employees of IC Realtime Security Solutions, 3050 N.
Andrews Ave. extension

Hearing the crash, several employees ran outside, where they saw the
armed robbery taking place.

''We all ran outside and it so happened that one of our customers had
a license to carry and had a weapon on him,'' said Frank Fishman, a
sales representative at the store.

Within seconds, Sandovaz, 21, found himself taking orders with a gun
to his head as Everol Moulton, a store customer with a concealed
weapons permit, told Sandovaz to drop the gun and kick it toward him.

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.

Fishman said they caught up to the suspect about 150 yards down the
road, tackled him and then held him down until the Broward Sheriff's
Office arrived.

Adding insult to injury, the incident was recorded on the store's
surveillance cameras.

''This guy piked the worst place in the world,'' Fishman said,
``because most of us carry and we're security guys.''

So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

Do you have any cites as to what the backstop was? *Or are you simply
talking out your ass?

Brilliant

Gunner

"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

If the only bone you've got to pick here has to do with my knowledge
of the backstop and not with the fact that the guy was shooting at the
back of an unarmed man, you're a bigger ass than I previously thought.


I see more blather on your part. In still waiting for an answer about
shooting an arsonist btw.

Is there some reason you and yours are ignoring it?

Gunner

"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

On Feb 21, 6:01*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:48:59 -0800 (PST), RangersSuck



wrote:
On Feb 16, 2:30*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:25:53 -0800 (PST), RangersSuck

wrote:
On Feb 16, 10:16*am, Ben wrote:
Gun-toting good Samaritan foils Pompano Beach robbery
BY DAVID SMILEY


Police say Fabrizzo Sandovaz might want to work on his planning and
execution.

First, he forgot to put his Jeep in park when he allegedly pulled
behind Walid Hamad's car and jumped out to rob the 48-year-old Palm
Beach County man.

Second, the spot he chose for the armed robbery happened to be in the
driveway of a Pompano Beach surveillance and securities retail store
where employees are particularly active in exercising their Second
Amendment rights.

''Friday the 13th wasn't a lucky day for this robber,'' said Mike
Jachles, a spokesman with the Broward Sheriff's Office.

As Sandovaz held a gun to Hamad and told him to hand over a bag in his
car, the gunman's own vehicle slowly cruised into two parked cars
belonging to employees of IC Realtime Security Solutions, 3050 N.
Andrews Ave. extension

Hearing the crash, several employees ran outside, where they saw the
armed robbery taking place.

''We all ran outside and it so happened that one of our customers had
a license to carry and had a weapon on him,'' said Frank Fishman, a
sales representative at the store.

Within seconds, Sandovaz, 21, found himself taking orders with a gun
to his head as Everol Moulton, a store customer with a concealed
weapons permit, told Sandovaz to drop the gun and kick it toward him.

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.

Fishman said they caught up to the suspect about 150 yards down the
road, tackled him and then held him down until the Broward Sheriff's
Office arrived.

Adding insult to injury, the incident was recorded on the store's
surveillance cameras.

''This guy piked the worst place in the world,'' Fishman said,
``because most of us carry and we're security guys.''

So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

Do you have any cites as to what the backstop was? *Or are you simply
talking out your ass?

Brilliant

Gunner

"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

If the only bone you've got to pick here has to do with my knowledge
of the backstop and not with the fact that the guy was shooting at the
back of an unarmed man, you're a bigger ass than I previously thought.

I see more blather on your part. *In still waiting for an answer about
shooting an arsonist btw.

Is there some reason you and yours are ignoring it?

Gunner

"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""

Q: What the **** does shooting an unarmed, hapless stickup man have to
do with arson?

A: When Gunner backs himself into a corner, he changes the subject.

On Feb 16, 5:25 pm, RangersSuck wrote:

So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

The robber would have been at very close range. More likely Moulton
fired one round to try to frighten the robber into not running.
Newspapers are not always super accurate. The reporter probably did
not talk to Moulton. If the reporter had talked to Moulton, there
would likely have been at least one quoted remark.


Dan

wrote in message
...
On Feb 16, 5:25 pm, RangersSuck wrote:

So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

The robber would have been at very close range. More likely Moulton
fired one round to try to frighten the robber into not running.
Newspapers are not always super accurate. The reporter probably did
not talk to Moulton. If the reporter had talked to Moulton, there
would likely have been at least one quoted remark.


Dan

The news stories say the police are praising the guy, calling him a good
Samaritan, so he likely didn't do anything illegal.

--
Ed Huntress

On Feb 16, 3:59*pm, " wrote:
On Feb 16, 5:25 pm, RangersSuck wrote:



So, Moulton shot at the back of an unarmed man and missed,
jeopardizing bystanders. Brilliant.

The robber would have been at very close range. *More likely Moulton
fired one round to try to frighten the robber into not running.
Newspapers are not always super accurate. *The reporter probably did
not talk to Moulton. *If the reporter had talked to Moulton, there
would likely have been at least one quoted remark.

Dan

You can't possibly know all of that (except for "Newspapers are not
always super accurate.").

On Feb 16, 10:35 pm, RangersSuck wrote:

The robber would have been at very close range. More likely Moulton
fired one round to try to frighten the robber into not running.
Newspapers are not always super accurate. The reporter probably did
not talk to Moulton. If the reporter had talked to Moulton, there
would likely have been at least one quoted remark.

Dan

You can't possibly know all of that (except for "Newspapers are not
always super accurate.").

You really need to learn to read with comprehension. The robber would
have been at close range because the story said it took place in the
drveway of the security store.

I said " more likely " because if Moulton had wanted to shoot the
robber, he probably would have fired more than one shot.

I did not say that the reporter did not talk to Moulton, I said
"probably". And then gave one reason why that might be true.
Another reason would be that the reporter was probably not on the
scene within half an hour of the incident, and Moulton is likely to
have left the scene by the time the reporter arrived.

It is possible that Moulton did try to shoot an unarmed man in the
back. But as Eliot said anyone with a permit to carry should know
better.

Dan

On Feb 17, 8:52*am, " wrote:
On Feb 16, 10:35 pm, RangersSuck wrote:



The robber would have been at very close range. *More likely Moulton
fired one round to try to frighten the robber into not running.
Newspapers are not always super accurate. *The reporter probably did
not talk to Moulton. *If the reporter had talked to Moulton, there
would likely have been at least one quoted remark.

Dan

You can't possibly know all of that (except for "Newspapers are not
always super accurate.").

You really need to learn to read with comprehension. *The robber would
have been at close range because the story said it took place in the
drveway of the security store.

I said " more likely " *because if Moulton had wanted to shoot *the
robber, he probably would have fired more than one shot.

I did not say that the reporter did not talk to Moulton, I said
"probably". * And then gave one reason why that might be true.
Another reason would be that the reporter was probably not on the
scene within half an hour of the incident, and Moulton is likely to
have left the scene by the time the reporter arrived.

It is possible that Moulton did try to shoot an unarmed man in the
back. *But as Eliot said anyone with a permit to carry should know
better.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *Dan

OK, I have my guesses and you have yours. But take a look at google
maps street view of that address. Their "driveway" appears to be a
block long. This is not a driveway like the one next to a house, but
one that runs in front of a strip of office buildings along a major
road.

And yes, the entire point of my post was that Moulton should have
known better. Maybe he fired one shot, missed, and then realized that
this was not a good idea.

For the record, I'm not entirely against owning guns. I am a former
NRA member (didn't quit over issues, just lost interest), but lines
have to be drawn somewhere. Shooting an unarmed man in the back would
certainly be a good place to draw such a line.

You really need to learn to read with comprehension. *The robber would
have been at close range because the story said it took place in the
drveway of the security store.


You need to look at a picture of the "driveway."


http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...=17&iwloc=addr

"Ben" wrote in message
...
Gun-toting good Samaritan foils Pompano Beach robbery
BY DAVID SMILEY


Police say Fabrizzo Sandovaz might want to work on his planning and
execution.

What in the hell are you talking about now, Gunner, that the story was
"buried by the liberal media"? It was carried at least by MSNBC, CBS 4 in
Florida, the Miami Herald, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, and the Palm
Beach Post.

Given the number of armed robbery attempts there are in the US, how many
news outlets do you expect to carry one in Florida, when there wasn't even
any blood?

Get real.

--
Ed Huntress

Ben wrote:

Sandovaz dropped the firearm and ran. Moulton fired one shot and
missed, and then he and several store employees gave chase.

Bad play. In most states, after a person ceases to be a threat, shooting at him is a no
no. Those are the rules. CCW doesn't make you a cop. What if Sandovaz was an undercover
cop and what you saw wasn't what was really happening?


Wes (who carries)

Yep, this story was "Buried" on the 6:30 news in Ft.Lauderdale friday
evening. They interviewed the guys that caught him and the cops...

And they teased it for an hour before they ran it.

What more did you want Moron?