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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?
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Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


You mention you are on a farm, do you have a loader on your tractor? If so
just use the bucket. Place the edge of the bucket right at the rim and
push down, then turn the wheel over and bust the other side the same way.

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Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/


Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


You mention you are on a farm, do you have a loader on your tractor? If so *
just use the bucket. Place the edge of the bucket right at the rim and *
push down, then turn the wheel over and bust the other side the same way.

WayneJ


Unfortunatley no loader. Just a very old 8n tractor.
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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


Make your self something like these. Or buy one.
http://search.harborfreight.com/cpis...aker&Submit=Go
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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


maybe?

http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html




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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.


Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/


Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


maybe?

http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html


I tried something like this to no avail
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stryped wrote:
I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.


Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/


Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


maybe?


http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html


I tried something like this to no avail


Would I do dammage by driving over it with the rear tires of my
tractor?
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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?

Keep your eyes open for an old manual tire changer at a farm auction
or wherever.
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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?




I have one of these that serve me well back in my racing days.

http://rockcrawler-mrt.com/BEAD%20BR...y%20M RW.html

JC Whitney has a deluxe model much like the one suggested in another post at
Harbor Freight, and Northern Tool has one that looks pretty interesting as
well.

Harbor freight used to sell a manual tire machine that works pretty well
also. Used a similar one regularly in my high school days working at a local
filling station.

All that said, as much as I like my bead breaker, it's worth the drive and a
5 or 10 spot to me to let someone else fool with it.




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"stryped" wrote: Would I do dammage by driving over it with the rear tires
of my
tractor?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Probably not, but it probably won't work any better than what you have
already tried. If your tractor has large rubber tires with a round cross
section, the pressure will be too far from the rim. If you put a 2 x6
between a concrete block and your tire, and then drive over it with your
tractor, it might work. You might do better straddling the wheel with your
tractor, and then putting a jack between the rear end and the tire. Lift
under the heaviest part of your tractor, wherever that is.




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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


There is a slide hammer rig I have seen used on truck tires.



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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


There is a slide hammer rig I have seen used on truck tires.


Like this?
http://www.gemplers.com/product/6H/K...y-Slide-Hammer



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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


There is a slide hammer rig I have seen used on truck tires.


Like this?
http://www.gemplers.com/product/6H/K...y-Slide-Hammer


Or this one for half the price... yeah.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...9615_200329615


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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?

There is a slide hammer rig I have seen used on truck tires.


Like this?
http://www.gemplers.com/product/6H/K...y-Slide-Hammer


Or this one for half the price... yeah.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...9615_200329615


Both of those prices are insane. If that's the way you go, make your own.


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stryped wrote:
I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


maybe?

http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html

It might work - Motorbike rims are not safety rims, which take a LOT
more force to break. As for using PT 2X4, it will not help as they
are, if anything, less strong. A good hardwood 2X4 from a sheet metal
pallet might work - but I'd be REAL carefull!!!! That thing is liable
to slip, snap, or otherwise malfunction at just the wrong time!!


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On Feb 9, 2:43Â*pm, "wws" wrote:

stryped wrote:
I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.


Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/


Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


maybe?


http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html


I tried something like this to no avail


Would I do dammage by driving over it with the rear tires of my
tractor?

Done it many times - just be carefull you don't slice the sidewall of
the tractor tire on the rim when it lets go - 8N rear tires are a
WHOLE LOT more work to change!!!
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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?




I have one of these that serve me well back in my racing days.

http://rockcrawler-mrt.com/BEAD%20BR...y%20M RW.html

JC Whitney has a deluxe model much like the one suggested in another post at
Harbor Freight, and Northern Tool has one that looks pretty interesting as
well.

Harbor freight used to sell a manual tire machine that works pretty well
also. Used a similar one regularly in my high school days working at a local
filling station.

All that said, as much as I like my bead breaker, it's worth the drive and a
5 or 10 spot to me to let someone else fool with it.



AMEN brother!!
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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


There is a slide hammer rig I have seen used on truck tires.


Like this?
http://www.gemplers.com/product/6H/K...y-Slide-Hammer


Yup - like that. I've used them too. But if it's not an emergency, you
are still farther ahead to just take it to a shop and have the bead
broken and the tube inserted.
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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?

There is a slide hammer rig I have seen used on truck tires.


Like this?
http://www.gemplers.com/product/6H/K...y-Slide-Hammer


Or this one for half the price... yeah.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...9615_200329615

For a hundred bucks you can pay to have a lot of tires dismounted. Not
worth it if you are only going to do 1 or 2 a year.
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On Feb 9, 2:43*pm, "wws" wrote:

stryped wrote:
I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.


Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/


Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


maybe?


http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html


I tried something like this to no avail


Would I do dammage by driving over it with the rear tires of my
tractor?


The rubber part - no.
The metal part - yes.

A most basic question for you: did you remember to totally deflate the tire
-before- attempting to dismount it?


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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?

There is a slide hammer rig I have seen used on truck tires.

Like this?
http://www.gemplers.com/product/6H/K...y-Slide-Hammer


Or this one for half the price... yeah.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...9615_200329615


Both of those prices are insane. If that's the way you go, make your own.

On the farm we had part of an old Chevy pickup torsion bar with a
length of sched 150? pipe to slide over it - with the top foot of the
pipe plugged with a chunk of old shafting welded in. We used the pipe
portion to drive steel "T" fenceposts and the old torsion bar just
happened to fit and worked so-so as a bead breaker. Driving over the
wheel with the 44 Massey was faster and easier.(unless it was the
front tire of the Massey that was flat)
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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


I made something similar to that. Was not smart enough to make
something that bolted to the base of a bumper jack. That looks like
it would work. But definately too much money for something easy to
make. I ran across a bead breaker similar to the harbor freight 92961
for $ 10 or $15 at a garage sale and bought it. Works well.

Dan
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Both of those prices are insane. If that's the way you go, make your own.

On the farm we had part of an old Chevy pickup torsion bar with a
length of sched 150? pipe to slide over it - with the top foot of the
pipe plugged with a chunk of old shafting welded in. We used the pipe
portion to drive steel "T" fenceposts and the old torsion bar just
happened to fit and worked so-so as a bead breaker. Driving over the
wheel with the 44 Massey was faster and easier.(unless it was the
front tire of the Massey that was flat)


Yeah, I guess if you had to buy the materials new they might not look all
that expensive, but for us discriminating junk shoppers it's over the top.



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stryped wrote:
I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:
http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


maybe?

http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html

It might work - Motorbike rims are not safety rims, which take a LOT
more force to break. As for using PT 2X4, it will not help as they
are, if anything, less strong. A good hardwood 2X4 from a sheet metal
pallet might work - but I'd be REAL carefull!!!! That thing is liable
to slip, snap, or otherwise malfunction at just the wrong time!!


I lay a hardwood pallet skid (2x3 or so and about 36" long) with one end
on the ground , the other on the tire with the end just touching the rim . I
then drive my truck (well , one of the front wheels) up the "ramp" created ,
I've never been unable to break a bead this way . Real rough on steel belts
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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


I have seen people actually drive up on the tire from an angle. Of course,
you risk damaging both tires, but I have seen it done successfully by more
than one farm boy. Your tractor rear wheel should break most any bead.
Just try not to hit the rim, but come as close as you can. And then don't
use that tire at Interstate speeds.

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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?

There is a slide hammer rig I have seen used on truck tires.


Like this?
http://www.gemplers.com/product/6H/K...y-Slide-Hammer


Yup - like that. I've used them too. But if it's not an emergency, you
are still farther ahead to just take it to a shop and have the bead
broken and the tube inserted.


Depends on the where and how long of it. If I was on a rural farm and it
took a couple hours to get to town and back it might be cheaper to do it
myself, and have my piece of equipment going again. Given that you might
even have to wait around when you got to the tire shop for them to fix your
flat too... Time is money. I own a lot of equipment that doesn't justify
itself for the cost of the item produced or fixed, but because I can fix
something right now... Like having a code reader for my trucks. The
dealership will be glad to read the code for me for free, but I really don't
want to take the time if its because one of my guys over filled a truck with
gas and set off an emissions code when fuel run down the over flow tube. If
I have a code reader I can see it and clear it now. Sure a decent code
reader costs a hundred bucks, but time spent driving over to the dealership
instead of going to a job site is money wasted. If the service writer is
busy and I have to wait it can pay for itself in one use.

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maybe?


Get a 10 foot plank, lay it over the tyre, not on the rim, and
drive your tractor over the plank. That should break the bead.
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stryped wrote:
I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.


Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/


Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


maybe?


http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html


I tried something like this to no avail


Would I do dammage by driving over it with the rear tires of my
tractor?


The rubber part - no.
The metal part - yes.

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I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.


Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/


Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


I have seen people actually drive up on the tire from an angle. *Of course,
you risk damaging both tires, but I have seen it done successfully by more
than one farm boy. *Your tractor rear wheel should break most any bead.
Just try not to hit the rim, but come as close as you can. *And then don't
use that tire at Interstate speeds.

Steve


Well, last night tried to use a large c-clamp that I had. One end on
the rim, the other screw end on the tire bead. What ended up hapening
is the end on the tire bead kept slipping down no matter how hard I
tried into the sidewall of the tire. I was afraid of damaging the tire
so I stopped. (These are steel belted car tires).

While the clamp was on I did noticed tha the underside of the lip and
rim that I could see was rusted pretty good.

Someone mentioned if I run over it with the 8n tires not to run the
tire at highway speed. This trailer is not used very often but I would
like to be able to use it on the highway. It is a small dual axle I
bought this past summer.

Anyhow, I was thinking, could I put the tire between the receiver
hitch on my truck and my 3 point arms on the 8n, placing the 3 point
arms against the sidewall then lifting the 3 point arms up?

I am not against buying a tool to keep around if it will work. I
thought about a harbor freight tire changer but it seems like I read
somewhere that people had problems with any tire over 8 inches on
them.

Once I get the tire off is it hard to get it back on?

I called Wal Mart, which is the only thing open when I get off work
around here. They said they would not mess with a tire with a tube in
it.

So I am kind of stuck.

One other note, my dad lives about 20 miles away. He does have a John
Deer with a bucket attached. I would just have to kind time to go down
there.
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stryped wrote:
I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.


Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/


Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


maybe?


http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker.html


It might work - Motorbike rims are not safety rims, which take a LOT
more force to break. As for using PT 2X4, it will not help as they
are, if anything, less strong. A good hardwood 2X4 from a sheet metal
pallet might work - but I'd be REAL carefull!!!! That thing is liable
to slip, snap, or otherwise malfunction at just the wrong time!!


* I lay a hardwood pallet skid (2x3 or so and about 36" long) with one end
on the ground , the other on the tire with the end just touching the rim .. I
then drive my truck (well , one of the front wheels) up the "ramp" created ,
I've never been unable to break a bead this way . Real rough on steel belts
though ...
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I wonder if a car ramp on the tire would work? I dont want to damage
the tire though.


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This is going on too long. I have been removing tires of all sizes from
rims since 1967 on the farm, at home etc. Smaller car size type tires, use
a Jack-All under the bumper of a good size vehicle or a piece of heavy
machinery. Angle the jack slightly toward the rim. If unsuccessful, tire
and rim slightly, try again. If the ground is soft, place a piece of
plywood or something firm under the tire. It will eventually come off. On
larger tires such as truck or rear tractor tires, place a cutting edge of
plow blade on the ground and up to the edge of the rim. Drive up onto this
ramp, break the bead. Once again you may have to reposition the steel
several times. I have and use a manual bead breaker I use bought from a
farm auction. I build one like this when I was 16 many years ago. Not
rocket science. Last tractor rear tire bead I broke, I used the BobCat,
drove tangent to the tire right up the the rim, pleasantly surprised at how
well it came off. BobCat tires are inflated to 60 PSI vs 18 PSI for the
rear of a tractor, not much room for flatening when doing a job like this.
Lets move on. At last count this will be entry 31 on this topic.


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stryped wrote:
I tried everythign this weekend to break the bead of that 15 inch
trailer tire. I put my floor jack on one end and jackt it up, did
about everything.

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack: http://www.extremeoutback.com/

Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?


I made one from a couple of pieces of 2 x 4. I put a four foot piece
attached to a stud by a bolt, about three feet above the floor. Then a
piece just short of three feet, attached to that "handle" by another
bolt, about a foot out from the stud. This makes a lever press. Put
the tire bead under the piece hanging down from handle, and put your
weight on handle. Worked fine.
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Lets move on. At last count this will be entry 31 on this topic.



It's Stryped. Once he does break the bead (IF he ever does), he'll
start asking questions like, "should I clean the rust off the rim
before I re-mount the tire?".

Then, when you say, "Yes", he'll ask, "Welllll... whut shud I YOUSE to
clean the rust off?". Then you'll say, "A wire brush.". And he'll
ask, "Where to I get a wire brush"... ad nauseum.

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While the clamp was on I did noticed tha the underside of the lip and
rim that I could see was rusted pretty good.



Get a can of Coke, and pour it around the bead, with the tire laying
flat and let set for a couple hours. Repeat on the other side

Then try to break it.

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While the clamp was on I did noticed tha the underside of the lip

and
rim that I could see was rusted pretty good.



Get a can of Coke, and pour it around the bead, with the tire laying
flat and let set for a couple hours. Repeat on the other side

Then try to break it.


If that doesn't work pour concentrated muratic acid around the bead.
Let it sit for about six hours. Repeat ten times over the next three
days. That is _guaranteed_ to have an effect.

LLoyd


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I was thinking, could I put the tire between the receiver
hitch on my truck and my 3 point arms on the 8n, placing the 3 point
arms against the sidewall then lifting the 3 point arms up?


I am at a bit of a loss. I have been able to break just about every kind of
tire loose with a farm jack (wagon jack) under the hitch of my truck and the
foot of the jack on the tire with the leading edge up against the rim. I
just keep jacking, and tapping the foot up under the edge of the rim with a
hammer until it pops off. I have even done racing tires on safety rims with
this method. Some like motorcycle tires I have placed it on wood 4x4s so as
to not press the hub and equipment attached to the hub into the ground and
damage it. I just suggested the slide hammer bar because It seemed to me
that you had indicted a farm jack wouldn't work for you.

Once I get the tire off is it hard to get it back on?


It can be.



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On Feb 10, 1:29 pm, stryped wrote:

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/



Once I get the tire off is it hard to get it back on?



Do not take the tire off the rim. Just get both beads loose and then
stuff the tube into position. Use vegtable oil on the beads to make
them more slippery. Inflate the tube somewhat to get any wrinkles
out,and then let the air out. Repeat. Then put enough air in the
tube to seat the rims. They will pop on with a lot of force. You
still have not put the valve core in. So let the air out again. Then
put the valve core in and inflate to the desired pressure.

Dan


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It can be.


No, it WILL be for Stryped. Expect another 60-post thread on "how do I
get a tire back on the rim" from him IF he ever gets it off.

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On Feb 10, 1:29 pm, stryped wrote:

Would it be possible to make something like this with angle iron to
use with my small floor jack:http://www.extremeoutback.com/



Once I get the tire off is it hard to get it back on?



Do not take the tire off the rim. Just get both beads loose and then
stuff the tube into position. Use vegtable oil on the beads to make
them more slippery. Inflate the tube somewhat to get any wrinkles
out,and then let the air out. Repeat. Then put enough air in the
tube to seat the rims. They will pop on with a lot of force. You
still have not put the valve core in. So let the air out again. Then
put the valve core in and inflate to the desired pressure.

Dan

On a lot of passenger car rims you will have a heck of a time stuffing
a tube in with both beads in the center of the rim. On many it will be
all but impossible.
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Is there another way I can do this in the future on my small farm?

maybe?


Get a 10 foot plank, lay it over the tyre, not on the rim, and
drive your tractor over the plank. That should break the bead.


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