Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house. It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit can
save.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house. It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit can
save.

Sounds like you are going to enjoy life for a while!
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:00:48 -0500, the infamous Gerald Miller
scrawled the following:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house. It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit can
save.

Sounds like you are going to enjoy life for a while!

I'm just wondering what Mom's gonna say when her littlest lesbian
moves out of the nest, y'know?

--
Acceptance is such an important commodity, some
have called it "the first law of personal growth."
-- Peter McWilliams, Life 101

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:00:48 -0500, the infamous Gerald Miller
scrawled the following:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in
various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold
gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house.
It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and
every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to
fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the
deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for
their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage
auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages
them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit can
save.

Sounds like you are going to enjoy life for a while!

I'm just wondering what Mom's gonna say when her littlest lesbian
moves out of the nest, y'know?

--
Acceptance is such an important commodity, some
have called it "the first law of personal growth."
-- Peter McWilliams, Life 101

I'm just gonna' unlock the basement door and RUN! I'll do it in bright
daylight so she can't go past the front door. The light would burn her!

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house. It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?)

You don't have to convince us, only yourself. We don't pay your Visa
bill at the end of the month.

The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

Better restrict anyone from carrying Goo Gone or any other solvents
that can remove tape goop from tools... Spray paint is more better.
They can't make that disappear from all the nooks and crannies.

Go get a Job Box, in case someone breaks in to make an unauthorized
tool withdrawal. Or get the steel and weld one up.

And a central station burglar alarm for the unit might be a good
idea, with smoke detectors and a freeze alarm thermostat. If someone
isn't living there and it freezes you get bursty pipes, and the
downstairs neighbor might not appreciate the flood...

Double-check the Homeowner's Insurance fine print - if the unit is
vacant for over 30 days it might not cover. You might want to fix up
one bedroom and plant a kid there as a house sitter.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit can
save.

That sounds more like "How can we put 200A worth of load on a 125A
panel?" Rube Goldberg type engineering.

Because when you go to the next step, if they beefed up the Common
Area power panels to give every unit a 200A Main, they would need to
double the service gear, too. Instead of having 6 units on a 400A
main, they would need to bump it to a 600A. Or go to industrial
switchgear with a 2000A or 4000A main and stacks of 200A sockets - and
that starts getting really big, and REALLY expensive.

Almost as dumb as turning heat energy into electricity with losses
at the generating plant, shipping it long distances with losses along
the way, then turning it back to heat energy at a yet another huge
efficiency loss - and all those losses you pay for, with interest.
Much better to buy the fuel and turn it into heat once, right where it
is needed.

Yes, the Electrician is pushing Gas. The right tool for the job.

Electricity is the right tool for lights and appliances, because you
don't want to run an on-site primary engine generator plant 24/7/365.
When you factor in the unit cost and all the repairs and biennial
engine rebuilds (and having multiple units to cover the down time -
you hope...) that starts getting REALLY expensive. Even with the
losses, it's still cheaper to buy your electrons factory built.

( The only time it starts making sense is if you have a Cogeneration
use for all the waste heat, like a factory that needs process steam or
lots of heat for ovens and drying chambers. Or a hotel that is
forever making hot water for showers.)

Is there any Natural Gas on the property at all? Or a way to
install Propane? If you can get the water heating and space heating
loads off the electric, thern there's plenty for everything else.

Yes, the HOA Board is going to be a huge roadblock to any change.
But most of them live there, and they get electric bills too. If you
can get them to allow a gas main onto the premises and make space for
the meters, I'll bet you will get lots of company in the next few
years as they start changing over. As their water heaters and Heat
Pumps go bad, or they get fed up with the rate hikes.

Hmmm.... If NG and Propane are totally out, I wonder if you could
put a common-area oil tank in the basement or out under the parking
lot, and individual oil meters on the lines to each unit? Still has
to be cheaper than electric resistance heat, as Heat Pumps lose their
efficiency below about 40F outside, and totally gone past freezing -
they ice up before they can find any heat to extract...

That or a common area boiler and meter the hot water to each unit.
Divide the oil bill and apportion by usage - wouldn't be exact, but
close enough counts.

-- Bruce --

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house. It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit can
save.


To me, contractors without tools equal employees.

Do not let contractors borrow any of your tools. It is a bad idea.

i

Buerste wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:00:48 -0500, the infamous Gerald Miller
scrawled the following:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in
various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold
gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house.
It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and
every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to
fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the
deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for
their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

Hunt them down and get your tools back? good luck.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:19:23 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:00:48 -0500, the infamous Gerald Miller
scrawled the following:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in
various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold
gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house.
It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and
every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to
fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the
deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for
their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage
auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages
them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit can
save.

Sounds like you are going to enjoy life for a while!

I'm just wondering what Mom's gonna say when her littlest lesbian
moves out of the nest, y'know?

I'm just gonna' unlock the basement door and RUN! I'll do it in bright
daylight so she can't go past the front door. The light would burn her!

Run, Tawmy boy, RUN! g

Wait a minute here! Are you sayin' yer Mum's a _vampire_?!? How
tragic! How'd you turn out as a "normal" boy/lez?

--
Acceptance is such an important commodity, some
have called it "the first law of personal growth."
-- Peter McWilliams, Life 101

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:19:23 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:00:48 -0500, the infamous Gerald Miller
scrawled the following:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in
various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold
gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from
an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there
for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house.
It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and
every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to
fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the
deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring,
carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for
their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange
electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage
auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages
them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit
can
save.

Sounds like you are going to enjoy life for a while!

I'm just wondering what Mom's gonna say when her littlest lesbian
moves out of the nest, y'know?

I'm just gonna' unlock the basement door and RUN! I'll do it in bright
daylight so she can't go past the front door. The light would burn her!

Run, Tawmy boy, RUN! g

Wait a minute here! Are you sayin' yer Mum's a _vampire_?!? How
tragic! How'd you turn out as a "normal" boy/lez?

--
Acceptance is such an important commodity, some
have called it "the first law of personal growth."
-- Peter McWilliams, Life 101

I think she fell on the floor at the dirty movie theater, she must not have
been wearing panties.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:25:43 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following:

you said
I'm just gonna' unlock the basement door and RUN! I'll do it in bright
daylight so she can't go past the front door. The light would burn her!

I said
Run, Tawmy boy, RUN! g

Wait a minute here! Are you sayin' yer Mum's a _vampire_?!? How
tragic! How'd you turn out as a "normal" boy/lez?

I think she fell on the floor at the dirty movie theater, she must not have
been wearing panties.

Uh, I think I'm done here. Go on without me.

--
Acceptance is such an important commodity, some
have called it "the first law of personal growth."
-- Peter McWilliams, Life 101

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:05:02 -0600, Andy Asberry
wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house. It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit can
save.


To me, contractors without tools equal employees.

And a contractor that has every possible tool with them for any odd
job or problem you can throw at them - are either driving a Semi for a
work truck, or live within a ten minute drive.

Better to loan a tool out than cause lost productivity - even if you
aren't paying for it in cash, you are still paying for it in lost
progress.

Same thing with materials - if you know it's going to take something
really odd, go find it and have it on hand. Because odds are if you
wallk into the wholesale house cold they won't have any, and that
means the whole day is right down the tubes.

And Tawm hasn't mentioned what the access arrangements are for this
unit - if it's a ten minute hike down three flights, a quarter mile of
halls to the front, through the lobby and out to the nearest Guest
Parking space you can put a work truck in, every time they run down to
get a left handed frangit hammer out of the truck that's ten minutes
of not working. If there's one already up there, bonus.

-- Bruce --

"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:05:02 -0600, Andy Asberry
wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:16:49 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

Now is sure the time to stock-up on all the odds and ends stuff in
various
categories of tools! The Home Despots and Lowers have tons of unsold
gift
type tooley things on sale.

I bought a condo a couple of months ago for an unbelievable price from an
estate. The move is in slow-motion and I don't plan on being in there for
months. And, I'm going to have to wait a while to sell the old house.
It's
only 8 miles away but that's much too far to haul tools back and forth.
(Right?) The place hasn't been updated since it was built in '74 and
every
room needs renovating plus all new bathrooms and kitchen. So, I get to
fill
the shopping cart with everything necessary to tool a home! Plus the
deals
on lighting, plumbing, tile, cabinets, quartz counters, flooring, carpet,
etc. are the best I've seen. I put red tape on all my new goodies and
explained to all the contractors that all my tools are available for
their
use but I will hunt them down like dogs if so much as a driver bit goes
missing.

The condo's all electric and I hate that! There is this strange electric
control thing that limits peak demand by shutting down the 2-stage
auxiliary
heaters on the heat pump or the AC unit or the water heater and stages
them
when demand is lower. I'm not certain if my electric company uses peak
demand billing and what hours are on or off peak or how much the unit can
save.


To me, contractors without tools equal employees.

And a contractor that has every possible tool with them for any odd
job or problem you can throw at them - are either driving a Semi for a
work truck, or live within a ten minute drive.

Better to loan a tool out than cause lost productivity - even if you
aren't paying for it in cash, you are still paying for it in lost
progress.

Same thing with materials - if you know it's going to take something
really odd, go find it and have it on hand. Because odds are if you
wallk into the wholesale house cold they won't have any, and that
means the whole day is right down the tubes.

And Tawm hasn't mentioned what the access arrangements are for this
unit - if it's a ten minute hike down three flights, a quarter mile of
halls to the front, through the lobby and out to the nearest Guest
Parking space you can put a work truck in, every time they run down to
get a left handed frangit hammer out of the truck that's ten minutes
of not working. If there's one already up there, bonus.

-- Bruce --

The condo is single floor on a slab sharing one common wall with another
mirror image unit. All of the contractors are people I know well and of
course they have all their own stuff. I just want to make sure that I have
basic stuff there that can save them a trip out to their truck. I repaired
the heater in the garage and set up my good table saw, radial arm saw,
jointer, tile saw, chop saw and air compressor. I also have halogen work
lights, extension cords, shop vac, brooms and garbage cans. I stay out of
the way and try to make the jobs easier for them buy lending a hand when
needed and running to the store for materials. All in all, we will have
everything up to date and it will be a show place. My sister has great
taste in renovations and decorating. And, it will only cost a fraction of
what it would to have it done professionally.

I still hate the "all electric" and gas isn't available for miles. The NEXT
place, I want a huge kitchen with restaurant quality gas appliances.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:51:32 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following:

The condo is single floor on a slab sharing one common wall with another

Common wall? First thing is to put up a layer of QuietRock. (spendy
but well worth it.)

Noisy neighborhood? Triple-glazed windows and QuietRock on the outside
walls, too.

http://www.quietsolution.com/html/quietrock.html Every time the
damned dogs next door start barking I think "I should plaster my room
with this stuff and switch to triple-glazed vinders." once again...


mirror image unit. All of the contractors are people I know well and of
course they have all their own stuff. I just want to make sure that I have
basic stuff there that can save them a trip out to their truck.

That's an excellent idea. Mark all tools (for the honest guys.)


I repaired
the heater in the garage and set up my good table saw, radial arm saw,
jointer, tile saw, chop saw and air compressor. I also have halogen work
lights, extension cords, shop vac, brooms and garbage cans. I stay out of
the way and try to make the jobs easier for them buy lending a hand when
needed and running to the store for materials.

As a contractor, I can honestly say that help is usually welcomed.
That third hand, when you need to hold something in place as you
anchor it, is a lifesaver. Doing your own store trips save you good
money, and we welcome that help, too.


All in all, we will have
everything up to date and it will be a show place. My sister has great
taste in renovations and decorating. And, it will only cost a fraction of
what it would to have it done professionally.

Pics before, during, and after will be a great keepsake. Show us, too.


I still hate the "all electric" and gas isn't available for miles. The NEXT
place, I want a huge kitchen with restaurant quality gas appliances.

Pipe in propane...if there's a place for a tank to fit regulations in
Clevage, OH.

--
Acceptance is such an important commodity, some
have called it "the first law of personal growth."
-- Peter McWilliams, Life 101

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:51:32 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following:

The condo is single floor on a slab sharing one common wall with another

Common wall? First thing is to put up a layer of QuietRock. (spendy
but well worth it.)

Noisy neighborhood? Triple-glazed windows and QuietRock on the outside
walls, too.

http://www.quietsolution.com/html/quietrock.html Every time the
damned dogs next door start barking I think "I should plaster my room
with this stuff and switch to triple-glazed vinders." once again...


mirror image unit. All of the contractors are people I know well and of
course they have all their own stuff. I just want to make sure that I
have
basic stuff there that can save them a trip out to their truck.

That's an excellent idea. Mark all tools (for the honest guys.)


I repaired
the heater in the garage and set up my good table saw, radial arm saw,
jointer, tile saw, chop saw and air compressor. I also have halogen work
lights, extension cords, shop vac, brooms and garbage cans. I stay out of
the way and try to make the jobs easier for them buy lending a hand when
needed and running to the store for materials.

As a contractor, I can honestly say that help is usually welcomed.
That third hand, when you need to hold something in place as you
anchor it, is a lifesaver. Doing your own store trips save you good
money, and we welcome that help, too.


All in all, we will have
everything up to date and it will be a show place. My sister has great
taste in renovations and decorating. And, it will only cost a fraction of
what it would to have it done professionally.

Pics before, during, and after will be a great keepsake. Show us, too.


I still hate the "all electric" and gas isn't available for miles. The
NEXT
place, I want a huge kitchen with restaurant quality gas appliances.

Pipe in propane...if there's a place for a tank to fit regulations in
Clevage, OH.

--
Acceptance is such an important commodity, some
have called it "the first law of personal growth."
-- Peter McWilliams, Life 101

The condo IS extremely well built and insulated, I was impressed! The
common wall is very thick and I can't hear a thing from next door. I'm not
going to dig up the slab for propane and the association won't allow it
anyway. It's all on one floor, no more hauling laundry up an down two
flights. I also get to buy a 50" TV. I'll mount it right over the
fireplace opening. It was suggested I play a video of a fire. I'll do that
but I want the fire to be roasting a baby on a spit!

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:18:38 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:51:32 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following:

The condo is single floor on a slab sharing one common wall with another

Common wall? First thing is to put up a layer of QuietRock. (spendy
but well worth it.)

Noisy neighborhood? Triple-glazed windows and QuietRock on the outside
walls, too.

The condo IS extremely well built and insulated, I was impressed! The
common wall is very thick and I can't hear a thing from next door.

That's rare. Congrats.


I'm not
going to dig up the slab for propane and the association won't allow it

Suckage.


anyway. It's all on one floor, no more hauling laundry up an down two
flights. I also get to buy a 50" TV. I'll mount it right over the
fireplace opening.

I just put a piece of OSB over the opening to my fireplace, a nice,
tight, kick-to-fit piece. Caulk and paint finished it off nicely.


It was suggested I play a video of a fire. I'll do that
but I want the fire to be roasting a baby on a spit!

1 Atta Boy comin' atcha, Tawmy.

--
A great preservative against angry and mutinous thoughts, and all
impatience and quarreling, is to have some great business and
interest in your mind, which, like a sponge shall suck up your
attention and keep you from brooding over what displeases you.
-- Joseph Rickaby

Bruce L. Bergman wrote:

To me, contractors without tools equal employees.

And a contractor that has every possible tool with them for any odd
job or problem you can throw at them - are either driving a Semi for a
work truck, or live within a ten minute drive.

Better to loan a tool out than cause lost productivity - even if you
aren't paying for it in cash, you are still paying for it in lost
progress.

Same thing with materials - if you know it's going to take something
really odd, go find it and have it on hand. Because odds are if you
wallk into the wholesale house cold they won't have any, and that
means the whole day is right down the tubes.

And Tawm hasn't mentioned what the access arrangements are for this
unit - if it's a ten minute hike down three flights, a quarter mile of
halls to the front, through the lobby and out to the nearest Guest
Parking space you can put a work truck in, every time they run down to
get a left handed frangit hammer out of the truck that's ten minutes
of not working. If there's one already up there, bonus.


When my brother, an electrican, was having his timber frame home plumbed, various problems
meeting code came up. My brother moved interior walls, bored holes and made whatever
modifications to keep the price of plumbing it within reason.

He paid the plumber time and materials vs a fixed price quote. Being a tradesmen he
understood the economics.

Wes