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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer than
the day it was cast!


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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer than
the day it was cast!


Train him a little more and perhaps you can retire :-).

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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. *He was just infatuated with the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. *I've seen that
look before! *After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I *let him discover. *A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! *It looked newer than
the day it was cast!


Sounds like it could be a cute advertisement for your products. Then
again, the wags in the group would probably accuse you of skirting
child-labor laws!
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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer than
the day it was cast!


I take it that it was properly seasoned before he started?
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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with
the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer
than
the day it was cast!


I take it that it was properly seasoned before he started?


It WAS better than Teflon, oh well, another 50 years and it'll be as good as
it was.




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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with
the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer
than
the day it was cast!


I take it that it was properly seasoned before he started?


It WAS better than Teflon, oh well, another 50 years and it'll be as good
as it was.


I had to use a disk sander on my big cast iron pan two years ago, after 39
years of heavy use, and I re-cured it in less than an hour.

Put enough salad oil in it to completely cover it really well (I used about
1/4" of it); heat it until the oil is smoking good (preferably do it
outdoors on a camp stove). Then turn off the heat and let it cool to room
temperature. Wipe the oil out. After one more use, pancakes and eggs would
slide right off like it was...ten years old. g

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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with
the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen
that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer
than
the day it was cast!

I take it that it was properly seasoned before he started?


It WAS better than Teflon, oh well, another 50 years and it'll be as good
as it was.


I had to use a disk sander on my big cast iron pan two years ago, after 39
years of heavy use, and I re-cured it in less than an hour.

Put enough salad oil in it to completely cover it really well (I used
about 1/4" of it); heat it until the oil is smoking good (preferably do it
outdoors on a camp stove). Then turn off the heat and let it cool to room
temperature. Wipe the oil out. After one more use, pancakes and eggs would
slide right off like it was...ten years old. g

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Thanks Ed, I'll reseason it and it'll be OK. I wish I had a picture of
myself when I saw the great job the nephew did...It was hard to keep from
laughing or crying. I'll bet the pan is seasoned deeper than a wire brush
will get to. I wonder if it will change the flavor?

I still have to follow through with polishing a good stainless pan to a
mirror finish then having it TiN coated. I'm thinking it would be a
high-temp, non-stick surface impervious to metal implements or damage of any
kind.


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I still have to follow through with polishing a good stainless pan to a
mirror finish then having it TiN coated. I'm thinking it would be a
high-temp, non-stick surface impervious to metal implements or damage of any
kind.


If you do that, you'll post a picture at r.c.m, right? It would be a
sight worth seeing :-)

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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with
the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen
that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented,
with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer
than
the day it was cast!

I take it that it was properly seasoned before he started?

It WAS better than Teflon, oh well, another 50 years and it'll be as
good as it was.


I had to use a disk sander on my big cast iron pan two years ago, after
39 years of heavy use, and I re-cured it in less than an hour.

Put enough salad oil in it to completely cover it really well (I used
about 1/4" of it); heat it until the oil is smoking good (preferably do
it outdoors on a camp stove). Then turn off the heat and let it cool to
room temperature. Wipe the oil out. After one more use, pancakes and eggs
would slide right off like it was...ten years old. g

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Ed Huntress


Thanks Ed, I'll reseason it and it'll be OK. I wish I had a picture of
myself when I saw the great job the nephew did...It was hard to keep from
laughing or crying. I'll bet the pan is seasoned deeper than a wire brush
will get to. I wonder if it will change the flavor?


Maybe it depends on where you get your wire. d8-)

It didn't affect mine. I used my little angle-head grinder with a sanding
disk, finishing with 80 grit, which polished it right up.


I still have to follow through with polishing a good stainless pan to a
mirror finish then having it TiN coated. I'm thinking it would be a
high-temp, non-stick surface impervious to metal implements or damage of
any kind.


'Don't know. Either that or it will be a crystalline structure like PAA that
will stick to anything with a death grip.

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Thanks Ed, I'll reseason it and it'll be OK. I wish I had a picture of
myself when I saw the great job the nephew did...It was hard to keep from
laughing or crying. I'll bet the pan is seasoned deeper than a wire brush
will get to. I wonder if it will change the flavor?


I'd sure boil the hell out of it a few times before curing/seasoning
and reusing it, Tawm.

I had a girlfriend get serious on my wonderful cast iron skillet once
and it almost broke us up. She took SOAP to it with a Brillo pad, the
heathen wench. It took a dozen boils to get the damned soap taste out
and a good month to season it properly. sigh


I still have to follow through with polishing a good stainless pan to a
mirror finish then having it TiN coated. I'm thinking it would be a
high-temp, non-stick surface impervious to metal implements or damage of any
kind.


Surely it would have been done by now if it were doable. GOLD frying
pans would sell like hotcakes.

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On Nov 19, 12:32*am, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
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I had to use a disk sander on my big cast iron pan two years ago, after 39
years of heavy use, and I re-cured it in less than an hour.

Put enough salad oil in it to completely cover it really well (I used about
1/4" of it); heat it until the oil is smoking good (preferably do it
outdoors on a camp stove). Then turn off the heat and let it cool to room
temperature. Wipe the oil out. After one more use, pancakes and eggs would
slide right off like it was...ten years old. g

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I scrub my CI frypans shiny sometimes and re-season them with olive
oil the same way. They work well even without doing it.
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I had to use a disk sander on my big cast iron pan two years ago, after 39
years of heavy use, and I re-cured it in less than an hour.

Put enough salad oil in it to completely cover it really well (I used about
1/4" of it); heat it until the oil is smoking good (preferably do it
outdoors on a camp stove). Then turn off the heat and let it cool to room
temperature. Wipe the oil out. After one more use, pancakes and eggs would
slide right off like it was...ten years old. g

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I scrub my CI frypans shiny sometimes and re-season them with olive
oil the same way. They work well even without doing it.


olive oil is somehow magic in reseasoning cast iron. A friend suggested
using it as it's a really fatty oil, and burns easier than other vegetable
oils. The suggestion was right.
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"Buerste" writes:

I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with
the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer
than
the day it was cast!


I take it that it was properly seasoned before he started?


It WAS better than Teflon, oh well, another 50 years and it'll be as good as
it was.


Well, the short-term solution comes in two parts:

First, coat the pan with peanut oil, heat until it smokes, allow to
cool, wipe old oil off. (I find peanut oil to be best because it cures
like paint.) Repeat a few times. Blackening sausages in lard also
works.

Second, shellac the nephew.

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It WAS better than Teflon, oh well, another 50 years and it'll be as good
as
it was.


Well, the short-term solution comes in two parts:

First, coat the pan with peanut oil, heat until it smokes, allow to
cool, wipe old oil off. (I find peanut oil to be best because it cures
like paint.) Repeat a few times. Blackening sausages in lard also
works.

Second, shellac the nephew.

Joe Gwinn


before using peanut oil, check that no one near by, and no one in the family
has a peanut alergy - the vapor from the oil can cause sever symptoms (like
heart arrest) in sensitive folks - even a person with "mild" peanut alergy
would probably be unable to breathe. If you can use any other oil, you are
at a lot less risk - personally, I'd use butter, lard, or olive oil.


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It WAS better than Teflon, oh well, another 50 years and it'll be as
good as
it was.


Well, the short-term solution comes in two parts:

First, coat the pan with peanut oil, heat until it smokes, allow to
cool, wipe old oil off. (I find peanut oil to be best because it cures
like paint.) Repeat a few times. Blackening sausages in lard also
works.

Second, shellac the nephew.

Joe Gwinn


before using peanut oil, check that no one near by, and no one in the
family has a peanut alergy - the vapor from the oil can cause sever
symptoms (like heart arrest) in sensitive folks - even a person with
"mild" peanut alergy would probably be unable to breathe. If you can use
any other oil, you are at a lot less risk - personally, I'd use butter,
lard, or olive oil.

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What a great idea for a new terror weapon! A peanut oil vapor bomb!




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Well, the short-term solution comes in two parts:

First, coat the pan with peanut oil, heat until it smokes, allow to
cool, wipe old oil off. (I find peanut oil to be best because it cures
like paint.) Repeat a few times. Blackening sausages in lard also
works.


Yeah, peanut's good, but only if you use the pan often. It'll go
rancid if the pan sits for any length of time.


Second, shellac the nephew.


Y'know, I'm still trying to figure out how the pan got out in the
garage/shop in the first place. Sumpin's fishy here.

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Well, the short-term solution comes in two parts:

First, coat the pan with peanut oil, heat until it smokes, allow to
cool, wipe old oil off. (I find peanut oil to be best because it cures
like paint.) Repeat a few times. Blackening sausages in lard also
works.


Yeah, peanut's good, but only if you use the pan often. It'll go
rancid if the pan sits for any length of time.


Not after it has polymerized due to heat and the infinite source of iron
ions.


Second, shellac the nephew.


Y'know, I'm still trying to figure out how the pan got out in the
garage/shop in the first place. Sumpin's fishy here.


So's Buerste. But, deep down, he knows....

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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer than
the day it was cast!


I bet he stripped off that smooth black anti-stick anti-rust layer
formed by decades of frying and wiping but never washing. It may be
time to re-season the pan.

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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:43:14 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer than
the day it was cast!


I know you might have wanted to use it on him, but I hope he survived
that.

Damn, 80 years of curing down the drain in hours... sigh

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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:43:14 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer than
the day it was cast!


I know you might have wanted to use it on him, but I hope he survived
that.

Damn, 80 years of curing down the drain in hours... sigh



http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?s=8956910

Bet they have to send this one off to Reno.


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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:43:14 -0500, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following:

I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with
the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer
than
the day it was cast!


I know you might have wanted to use it on him, but I hope he survived
that.

Damn, 80 years of curing down the drain in hours... sigh



http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?s=8956910

Bet they have to send this one off to Reno.


Damn. I was down there yesterday, and saw the old gal on TV. She's a hoot,
ain't she? She's mighty lucky her hubby didn't kill her. She's a work of
art, all right.

Steve


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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer than
the day it was cast!


You just took years of seasoning off there that will take years to put back
on. Many times, it is best to just leave things the way they are, as you
can seriously lessen their value by cleaning them up.

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I was showing my young nephew how to clean-up some small parts with a
crimped wire cup brush in my drill press. He was just infatuated with the
way rust and crud were replaced with bright shiny metal. I've seen that
look before! After I was confident he wouldn't lose his eyes or
fingerprints I let him discover. A few hours later he presented, with
great pride...my grandmother's cast iron frying pan! It looked newer than
the day it was cast!


You just took years of seasoning off there that will take years to put back
on. Many times, it is best to just leave things the way they are, as you
can seriously lessen their value by cleaning them up.


*He* knows that. He just did not know that the nephew was going
to attack the frying pan until it had been done.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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