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Alcohol as cutting fluid?
Recent posts on cutting fluids reminded me of this question. I once heard
that machining aluminum using alcohol produces a beautiful finish that resists corrosion. In fact the rumor was that this is how the shiny solid aluminum knobs on stereos are made. Does anyone have any experience with this or know where to find info on it? -Adam Norton (recent lurker, first-time poster here) |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
On Aug 4, 3:12*pm, "anorton" wrote:
Recent posts on cutting fluids reminded me of this question. *I once heard that machining aluminum using alcohol produces a beautiful finish that resists corrosion. *In fact the rumor was that this is how the shiny solid aluminum knobs on stereos are made. Does anyone have any experience with this or know where to find info on it? -Adam Norton (recent lurker, first-time poster here) Don't know about alcohol but there are other refrigerant type cutting fluids that will leave a very nice finish on aluminum. Downside is that untreated "shiny" aluminum isn't going to stay that way unless undisturbed, no handling. It'll have a very thin film of oxide on it. Good for telescope mirrors, not so great for knobs and hubcaps. Any home electronic aluminum trim parts I've seen have been either lacquered or anodyzed. Anodyzing isn't likely to give you a mirror finish, part of the process involves etching the surface in some rather nasty caustic chemicals to remove any oxide or other contaminants before the process starts. No shiny surface from that. So it's likely your knobs are either lacquered or clear powdercoated. One problem with using alcohol would be that you'd end up with flammable vapor in your workshop. One spark and you'd be baked. Other aluminum cutting fluids may give you liver cancer but they won't blow you up! Stan |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
I hesitate to post this, as there is some danger involved, not so
much to the machinist as to the people around him, but trichloroethelene and carbon tetrachloride work well for machining aluminum. These are nonflammable but toxic, (carbon tetrachloride more so than trichloroethelene). These fumes are heavy and may build up to dangerous concentrations at floor level thus presenting a danger to small children or pets [birds very succiptible]. These can also get sucked into a living space from a workshop. These will defat your skin and cause problems if you are not careful. Never the less, both liquids work very well as coolants on aluminum, and are available in many areas in pint containers at the hardware store. A small quantity of a good quality vegetable oil added to the carbon tet or trichloro such as olive oil will produce even better results. The old tap magic seems to have been a mixture of trichloro and a light oil. http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Tric...hylene-9927416 http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/msds/CA/car...achloride.html Good luck and let the group know how you make out. |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:12:19 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote: I hesitate to post this, as there is some danger involved, not so much to the machinist as to the people around him, but trichloroethelene and carbon tetrachloride work well for machining aluminum. These are nonflammable but toxic, (carbon tetrachloride more so than trichloroethelene). These fumes are heavy and may build up to dangerous concentrations at floor level thus presenting a danger to small children or pets [birds very succiptible]. These can also get sucked into a living space from a workshop. These will defat your skin and cause problems if you are not careful. Never the less, both liquids work very well as coolants on aluminum, and are available in many areas in pint containers at the hardware store. A small quantity of a good quality vegetable oil added to the carbon tet or trichloro such as olive oil will produce even better results. The old tap magic seems to have been a mixture of trichloro and a light oil. http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Tric...hylene-9927416 http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/msds/CA/car...achloride.html Good luck and let the group know how you make out. Greetings George, Have you used trichlor on aluminum? Because I have and it's not pretty. Trichlor attacks aluminum. If you wipe with a wet rag it keeps coming away black from the aluminum being eaten off. And tapped holes will corrode badly. Eric |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
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Alcohol as cutting fluid?
F. George McDuffee writes:
Never the less, both liquids [CCl4] work very well as coolants on aluminum, and are available in many areas in pint containers at the hardware store. Heheheh. Please tell me where this hardware store is in 2008 that has CCl4 in stock. That would be an EPA felony. Worse ozone depletion potential than R-12, and a carcinogen besides. |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
anorton wrote:
Recent posts on cutting fluids reminded me of this question. I once heard that machining aluminum using alcohol produces a beautiful finish that resists corrosion. In fact the rumor was that this is how the shiny solid aluminum knobs on stereos are made. Does anyone have any experience with this or know where to find info on it? -Adam Norton (recent lurker, first-time poster here) Dont know how alcohol goes but I've always used kerosine for maching and threading using hand tools. -- Kevin (Bluey) "I'm not young enough to know everything." |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
On Aug 4, 5:12 pm, "anorton" wrote:
Recent posts on cutting fluids reminded me of this question. I once heard that machining aluminum using alcohol produces a beautiful finish that resists corrosion. In fact the rumor was that this is how the shiny solid aluminum knobs on stereos are made. Does anyone have any experience with this or know where to find info on it? -Adam Norton (recent lurker, first-time poster here) Wikipedia does mention rubbing alcohol (isopropyl) as an aluminum cutting fluid. I don't endorse using wiki as a be-all and end-all source, but it is useful for turning up tidbits to be fleshed out via more reliable sources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutting..._and_pas t.29 Dave |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
anorton wrote:
Recent posts on cutting fluids reminded me of this question. I once heard that machining aluminum using alcohol produces a beautiful finish that resists corrosion. In fact the rumor was that this is how the shiny solid aluminum knobs on stereos are made. Does anyone have any experience with this or know where to find info on it? -Adam Norton (recent lurker, first-time poster here) One shop I worked in used denatured in a spray bottle for 1/4" and smaller endmills cutting pockets with carbide. For cooling though, not cutting. Spray misters created too much local weather. :) Another benefit is chip clearing - no sticky coolant holding the chips. my 2 cents |
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trichloroethelene and carbon tetrachloride work well for machining aluminum. Hi when I started metalwork in the 70s the apprentices job was to wash down soot and oil from sections of profiles.There was a old oildrum in the backyard with a sheetmetal lid on, filled with trichloroethelene -"tri" it was called and a common thing to use. No fire hazard, and it can solve incredible amounts of oil and grease. It leaves the skin white and dry. Somehow everybody knew itīs not the proper way to do it, but it worked well. Iīm glad those days are gone! What stopped the use was this interesting effect: put tri near the bright light of your welders arc, and it develops Phosgen.Thatīs a WW1 chemical weapon and you dont want it in your workshop. Many years later Tri got restricted to heavily monitored closed systhems for de-greasing in powdercoating etc Saying the stuff works well sounds like advocating the use of mercury in silver-plating (or making hats) mad as a hatter ed wolf |
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"e. w." wrote:
What stopped the use was this interesting effect: put tri near the bright light of your welders arc, and it develops Phosgen.Thatīs a WW1 chemical weapon and you dont want it in your workshop. I think tri chlor getting in the water table might have had some impact on how it is not restricted. We are just getting approval to remove the carbon filtration units from our facility that have been treating ground water for many years. Tap Magic hasn't been the same since the removal though. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:35:47 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote:
F. George McDuffee writes: Never the less, both liquids [CCl4] work very well as coolants on aluminum, and are available in many areas in pint containers at the hardware store. Heheheh. Please tell me where this hardware store is in 2008 that has CCl4 in stock. That would be an EPA felony. Worse ozone depletion potential than R-12, and a carcinogen besides. Got to any school or public transport bus and empty the driver's fire extinguisher into your handy collecting bucket.... No, Hang on. That was 40 years ago :-( Mark Rand RTFM |
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On tue, 5 aug 2008 20:11:33 +0200, "e. w."
wrote: trichloroethelene and carbon tetrachloride work well for machining aluminum. Hi when I started metalwork in the 70s the apprentices job was to wash down soot and oil from sections of profiles.There was a old oildrum in the backyard with a sheetmetal lid on, filled with trichloroethelene -"tri" it was called and a common thing to use. No fire hazard, and it can solve incredible amounts of oil and grease. It leaves the skin white and dry. Somehow everybody knew itīs not the proper way to do it, but it worked well. Iīm glad those days are gone! What stopped the use was this interesting effect: put tri near the bright light of your welders arc, and it develops Phosgen. It does that going through the gas fired oven in the lab. trailer, makes a cigarette taste like ****, this effect lasts for about eight hours - nearly enough to make you quit smoking! I'm probably lucky to have survived. Also works great as a paint stripper. Thatīs a WW1 chemical weapon and you dont want it in your workshop. Many years later Tri got restricted to heavily monitored closed systhems for de-greasing in powdercoating etc Saying the stuff works well sounds like advocating the use of mercury in silver-plating (or making hats) mad as a hatter ed wolf Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
"anorton" wrote in message m... Recent posts on cutting fluids reminded me of this question. I once heard that machining aluminum using alcohol produces a beautiful finish that resists corrosion. In fact the rumor was that this is how the shiny solid aluminum knobs on stereos are made. Does anyone have any experience with this or know where to find info on it? -Adam Norton (recent lurker, first-time poster here) Thanks for all the responses. I was mainly interested in the alleged claim that alcohol as a cutting fluid will leave an aluminum surface resistant to corrosion. I am an optical engineer and am always looking for manufacturing techniques that may be useful for ultra-precise optical mounts and assemblies. There are times when anodize is not an ideal surface finish for such things. In any case it seems like if there is any truth to this rumor, it is not common process. I may have to try the experiment myself. -Adam Norton |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ... I hesitate to post this, as there is some danger involved, not so much to the machinist as to the people around him, but trichloroethelene and carbon tetrachloride work well for machining aluminum. These are nonflammable but toxic, (carbon tetrachloride more so than trichloroethelene). These fumes are heavy and may build up to dangerous concentrations at floor level thus presenting a danger to small children or pets [birds very succiptible]. These can also get sucked into a living space from a workshop. These will defat your skin and cause problems if you are not careful. Never the less, both liquids work very well as coolants on aluminum, and are available in many areas in pint containers at the hardware store. A small quantity of a good quality vegetable oil added to the carbon tet or trichloro such as olive oil will produce even better results. The old tap magic seems to have been a mixture of trichloro and a light oil. http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Tric...hylene-9927416 http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/msds/CA/car...achloride.html Good luck and let the group know how you make out. Tap Magic used to contain 1.1.1 trichloroethane, not 1.1.1 trichlorethylene. The latter is also known as perchloroethylene or dry cleaning fluid. This is still available as Carbosolv at my local hardware store. I have a couple of gallons of trichloroethane stashed away to be used sparingly for things that require it. KPR thinner is one use.........Paul |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
In article , "catguy" wrote:
Tap Magic used to contain 1.1.1 trichloroethane, not 1.1.1 trichlorethylene. The latter is also known as perchloroethylene or dry cleaning fluid. This is still available as Carbosolv at my local hardware store. I have a couple of gallons of trichloroethane stashed away to be used sparingly for things that require it. KPR thinner is one use.........Paul Where is this "local hardware store" at which perchloroethylene is still available? |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:12:19 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote: I hesitate to post this, as there is some danger involved, not so much to the machinist as to the people around him, but trichloroethelene and carbon tetrachloride work well for machining aluminum. These are nonflammable but toxic, (carbon tetrachloride more so than trichloroethelene). These fumes are heavy and may build up to dangerous concentrations at floor level thus presenting a danger to small children or pets [birds very succiptible]. These can also get sucked into a living space from a workshop. These will defat your skin and cause problems if you are not careful. Never the less, both liquids work very well as coolants on aluminum, and are available in many areas in pint containers at the hardware store. A small quantity of a good quality vegetable oil added to the carbon tet or trichloro such as olive oil will produce even better results. The old tap magic seems to have been a mixture of trichloro and a light oil. http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Tric...hylene-9927416 http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/msds/CA/car...achloride.html Good luck and let the group know how you make out. ============== Just received an email from someone what been there and done that, a regular reader that can no longer post. Thanks for the straight skinny. --------- email follows ---------- George, I am unable to post to RCM due to a problem with my ISP. I can read, just not post. You have it wrong. Trichloroethylene is not the solvent used for machining. What you're thinking of is 1,1,1, trichloroethane-----which was the active ingredient in Tap Magic and other tapping solutions at one time. They were NOT recommended for aluminum, nor should they be used on aluminum. It requires a different formulation to avoid corrosion. I am very familiar with the use of the chloroethane I mentioned. It used to be used in the sumps of our turret lathes along with cutting oil when I worked at Sperry. Thought you might like to know. Harold Vordos |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
"catguy" wrote in message ... "F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ... I hesitate to post this, as there is some danger involved, not so much to the machinist as to the people around him, but trichloroethelene and carbon tetrachloride work well for machining aluminum. These are nonflammable but toxic, (carbon tetrachloride more so than trichloroethelene). These fumes are heavy and may build up to dangerous concentrations at floor level thus presenting a danger to small children or pets [birds very succiptible]. These can also get sucked into a living space from a workshop. These will defat your skin and cause problems if you are not careful. Never the less, both liquids work very well as coolants on aluminum, and are available in many areas in pint containers at the hardware store. A small quantity of a good quality vegetable oil added to the carbon tet or trichloro such as olive oil will produce even better results. The old tap magic seems to have been a mixture of trichloro and a light oil. http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Tric...hylene-9927416 http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/msds/CA/car...achloride.html Good luck and let the group know how you make out. Tap Magic used to contain 1.1.1 trichloroethane, not 1.1.1 trichlorethylene. The latter is also known as perchloroethylene or dry cleaning fluid. This is still available as Carbosolv at my local hardware store. I have a couple of gallons of trichloroethane stashed away to be used sparingly for things that require it. KPR thinner is one use.........Paul There's no such substance as 1,1,1 trichloroethylene, trichloroethylene has only one isomer and that's 1,1,2 trichloroethylene. Martin -- martindot herewhybrowat herentlworlddot herecom |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , "catguy" wrote: Tap Magic used to contain 1.1.1 trichloroethane, not 1.1.1 trichlorethylene. The latter is also known as perchloroethylene or dry cleaning fluid. This is still available as Carbosolv at my local hardware store. I have a couple of gallons of trichloroethane stashed away to be used sparingly for things that require it. KPR thinner is one use.........Paul Where is this "local hardware store" at which perchloroethylene is still available? Ok-Just for you(actually for me too), I bought a gallon today......Paul msds http://www.sunnysidecorp.com/pdf/msds864.pdf front of can http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol1.jpg warning on back http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol2.jpg sales receipt http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol3.jpg PS: I was wrong on the spelling. It' Carbo-Sol, no v. |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
"Martin Whybrow" wrote in message ... snip some stuff Tap Magic used to contain 1.1.1 trichloroethane, not 1.1.1 trichlorethylene. The latter is also known as perchloroethylene or dry cleaning fluid. This is still available as Carbosolv at my local hardware store. I have a couple of gallons of trichloroethane stashed away to be used sparingly for things that require it. KPR thinner is one use.........Paul There's no such substance as 1,1,1 trichloroethylene, trichloroethylene has only one isomer and that's 1,1,2 trichloroethylene. Martin -- martindot herewhybrowat herentlworlddot herecom I stand corrected. I was taken in by the hundreds of google hits on it......Paul |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
On 2008-08-06, catguy wrote:
[ ... ] Tap Magic used to contain 1.1.1 trichloroethane, not 1.1.1 trichlorethylene. The latter is also known as perchloroethylene or dry cleaning fluid. This is still available as Carbosolv at my local hardware store. I have a couple of gallons of trichloroethane stashed away to be used sparingly for things that require it. KPR thinner is one use.........Paul KPR developer is another. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
On Aug 4, 10:13 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
Tap Magic Original is 90% 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. There are several trichloroethylenes, and I don't think it's the 1,1,1 that you can't buy. -- Ed Huntress Lockheed phased out the use of 1,1,1 trichoroethane about 12 years ago and went to a orange peel based solvent. The mechanics did not like the change as trich is a excellent solvent in many ways, but not good for your health. I doubt if it is readily available now. Dan |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
In article , "catguy" wrote:
Ok-Just for you(actually for me too), I bought a gallon today......Paul msds http://www.sunnysidecorp.com/pdf/msds864.pdf front of can http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol1.jpg warning on back http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol2.jpg sales receipt http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol3.jpg Bizarre that you can find it in California... and I can't in Indiana. |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:51:52 -0700, "catguy"
wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. In article , "catguy" wrote: Tap Magic used to contain 1.1.1 trichloroethane, not 1.1.1 trichlorethylene. The latter is also known as perchloroethylene or dry cleaning fluid. This is still available as Carbosolv at my local hardware store. I have a couple of gallons of trichloroethane stashed away to be used sparingly for things that require it. KPR thinner is one use.........Paul Where is this "local hardware store" at which perchloroethylene is still available? Ok-Just for you(actually for me too), I bought a gallon today......Paul msds http://www.sunnysidecorp.com/pdf/msds864.pdf front of can http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol1.jpg warning on back http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol2.jpg sales receipt http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol3.jpg PS: I was wrong on the spelling. It' Carbo-Sol, no v. ================ Thanks for posting. |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
The industrial solvent is 1, 1, 1 trichloroethane. Trichloroethylene is
a different chemical, occasionally used as a solvent, formerly used as an inhalant anesthetic. It's the alkane (the ethane) that has two isomers, 1, 1, 1 and 1, 1, 2; the alkene (the ethylene) has only the one. David Ed Huntress wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: I hesitate to post this, as there is some danger involved, not so much to the machinist as to the people around him, but trichloroethelene and carbon tetrachloride work well for machining aluminum. [snip] Never the less, both liquids work very well as coolants on aluminum, and are available in many areas in pint containers at the hardware store. Really? What areas would those be? I haven't seen trichloroethylene at retail sale for several years -- and I haven't seen carbon tet on a retail shelf since some time in the 1970s. If you know of a place in the U.S. where either can be purchased retail *now*, I'd love to know about it. I have a bottle of carbon tet under my workbench. I could be persuaded to sell it...for a hefty price. d8-) Tap Magic Original is 90% 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. There are several trichloroethylenes, and I don't think it's the 1,1,1 that you can't buy. -- Ed Huntress |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
wrote in message ... On Aug 4, 10:13 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: Tap Magic Original is 90% 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. There are several trichloroethylenes, and I don't think it's the 1,1,1 that you can't buy. -- Ed Huntress Lockheed phased out the use of 1,1,1 trichoroethane about 12 years ago and went to a orange peel based solvent. The mechanics did not like the change as trich is a excellent solvent in many ways, but not good for your health. I doubt if it is readily available now. Dan Yup, I see that I made an error that a couple of people pointed out here, confusing trichloroethylene with trichlorethane. The hell of it is, I remember correcting that mistake in an article I was editing, which had been written by someone else, almost 30 years ago. g [If there are any misspellings here, I plead partial blindness, just having had laser eye surgery two hours ago. I'm still half blind.] -- Ed Huntress |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , "catguy" wrote: Ok-Just for you(actually for me too), I bought a gallon today......Paul msds http://www.sunnysidecorp.com/pdf/msds864.pdf front of can http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol1.jpg warning on back http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol2.jpg sales receipt http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol3.jpg Bizarre that you can find it in California... and I can't in Indiana. To tell you the truth, I am suprised that they still have it. The same store also has MEK. I didn't see the ban on 1,1,1 trichloroethane coming and did not stock up on it. It was a standard item for IBM techs to carry....Paul |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
On Aug 8, 1:30*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Aug 4, 10:13 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: Tap Magic Original is 90% 1,1,1 trichloroethylene. There are several trichloroethylenes, and I don't think it's the 1,1,1 that you can't buy. -- Ed Huntress Lockheed phased out the use of 1,1,1 trichoroethane about 12 years ago and went to a orange peel based solvent. The mechanics did not like the change as trich is a excellent solvent in many ways, but not good for your health. I doubt if it is readily available now. Dan Yup, I see that I made an error that a couple of people pointed out here, confusing trichloroethylene with trichlorethane. The hell of it is, I remember correcting that mistake in an article I was editing, which had been written by someone else, almost 30 years ago. g [If there are any misspellings here, I plead partial blindness, just having had laser eye surgery two hours ago. I'm still half blind.] -- Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The internet- spell-checker and automated mother-in-law, is there anything it can't do? Dave |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
In article , "catguy" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message .. . In article , "catguy" wrote: Ok-Just for you(actually for me too), I bought a gallon today......Paul msds http://www.sunnysidecorp.com/pdf/msds864.pdf front of can http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol1.jpg warning on back http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol2.jpg sales receipt http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol3.jpg Bizarre that you can find it in California... and I can't in Indiana. To tell you the truth, I am suprised that they still have it. The same store also has MEK. I didn't see the ban on 1,1,1 trichloroethane coming and did not stock up on it. It was a standard item for IBM techs to carry....Paul I wonder if that store takes phone orders and is willing to ship to Indiana... Is it an independent retailer, or part of a chain? |
Alcohol as cutting fluid?
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , "catguy" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. In article , "catguy" wrote: Ok-Just for you(actually for me too), I bought a gallon today......Paul msds http://www.sunnysidecorp.com/pdf/msds864.pdf front of can http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol1.jpg warning on back http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol2.jpg sales receipt http://www.packratpaul.com/CarboSol/carbosol3.jpg Bizarre that you can find it in California... and I can't in Indiana. To tell you the truth, I am suprised that they still have it. The same store also has MEK. I didn't see the ban on 1,1,1 trichloroethane coming and did not stock up on it. It was a standard item for IBM techs to carry....Paul I wonder if that store takes phone orders and is willing to ship to Indiana... Is it an independent retailer, or part of a chain? They used to be a True Value Hardware. I'm not sure if they are part of a chain now. I don't buy much from them as their prices aren't low. The gallon of Carb-Sol weighs 13+ lbs. It's hazard class 6.1 as per DOT. This might be you best bet. The where to buy page from Sunnyside http://www.sunnysidecorp.com/where_to_buy_r.html ......Paul |
Carno-sol
catguy wrote:
Ok-Just for you(actually for me too), I bought a gallon today......Paul .... PS: I was wrong on the spelling. It' Carbo-Sol, no v. If you really like the stuff, you might want to go back & grab some more. From the Sunnyside site: "Where can I buy Carbo-Sol? Carbo-Sol was discontinued in January, 2006 because of changes in air pollution regulations in California and other states. ..." Bob |
Carno-sol
"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message ... catguy wrote: Ok-Just for you(actually for me too), I bought a gallon today......Paul ... PS: I was wrong on the spelling. It' Carbo-Sol, no v. If you really like the stuff, you might want to go back & grab some more. From the Sunnyside site: "Where can I buy Carbo-Sol? Carbo-Sol was discontinued in January, 2006 because of changes in air pollution regulations in California and other states. ..." Bob Interesting, it's supposed to have very little effect on the ozone layer. Of course that never stopped the Kalifornica govmnt from "proctecting us". This particular store will probably have the two cans on their shelf forever. They never have closeout or discontinued item sales any more. I use the common solvents for most things these days. Carb cleaner from Wallys is cheap and works pretty good.......Paul |
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