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Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note
our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:16:25 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote: Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl gardening shops in australia sell a nylon pressurised sprayer with a long wand. it has a handle which doubles as a pressure pump. holds 10 litres and has a control valve just by the thumb. not expensive. your Home Depot should have something similar in the gardening section. Stealth Pilot |
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"Karl Townsend" wrote in message anews.com... Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl They made a thing like that back in the '50s, called a "Killer Kane." It was a green transparent plastic tube around 3' or 4' long (I was about 3' long then, myself, so the size may be off). It had a small tube at one end that you pressed down into the center of a dandelion, and it released a little squirt of herbicide. Maybe they're still around? -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Karl Townsend" wrote in message anews.com... Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl They made a thing like that back in the '50s, called a "Killer Kane." It was a green transparent plastic tube around 3' or 4' long (I was about 3' long then, myself, so the size may be off). It had a small tube at one end that you pressed down into the center of a dandelion, and it released a little squirt of herbicide. Maybe they're still around? -- Ed Huntress A similar thing called a 'weeding wand' is sold in my part of the world. Came out in the 80's & are still around. Same as you describe but with a wick at the business end that gets sodden with herbicide and is dabbed on the evil weed. |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:16:25 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Karl Townsend" quickly quoth: Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Can you say "$10 WallyWorld sprayer"? I knew you could. BUT, you _don't_ want to put all those nasty chemicals in your food source, do you?!? Gasoline and diesel are carcinogens and do not add to the flavor of fruits and vegetables. ;) -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
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"Den" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Karl Townsend" wrote in message anews.com... Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl They made a thing like that back in the '50s, called a "Killer Kane." It was a green transparent plastic tube around 3' or 4' long (I was about 3' long then, myself, so the size may be off). It had a small tube at one end that you pressed down into the center of a dandelion, and it released a little squirt of herbicide. Maybe they're still around? -- Ed Huntress A similar thing called a 'weeding wand' is sold in my part of the world. Came out in the 80's & are still around. Same as you describe but with a wick at the business end that gets sodden with herbicide and is dabbed on the evil weed. Now, that sounds like something one could make at home. I may make one and give it a try myself. I was late with the pre-emergence weed killer this year, and I have a real mess of them. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Den" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Karl Townsend" wrote in message anews.com... Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl They made a thing like that back in the '50s, called a "Killer Kane." It was a green transparent plastic tube around 3' or 4' long (I was about 3' long then, myself, so the size may be off). It had a small tube at one end that you pressed down into the center of a dandelion, and it released a little squirt of herbicide. Maybe they're still around? -- Ed Huntress A similar thing called a 'weeding wand' is sold in my part of the world. Came out in the 80's & are still around. Same as you describe but with a wick at the business end that gets sodden with herbicide and is dabbed on the evil weed. Now, that sounds like something one could make at home. I may make one and give it a try myself. I was late with the pre-emergence weed killer this year, and I have a real mess of them. -- Ed Huntress The bottle screws on at the handle end, the wand is the tube (or at least contains a small diameter tube) the wick was like soft cotton rope about 3/8" diameter. Problem I had was with small bottles of expensive pesticide a good deal of it was spent soaking the wick. Tried to find a pic, I only found this butane powered one.... http://www.crocus.co.uk/images/produ...03769_card.jpg |
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She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again)
so she don't have to bend over. It's called a "hudson sprayer". http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...0674_200020674 I use one with diesel in burn season, 4 years and no chemical damage to the sprayer. Larger models have a sling strap so she won't have to hold it. There are even 12 models that need no pumping |
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"Den" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Den" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Karl Townsend" wrote in message anews.com... Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl They made a thing like that back in the '50s, called a "Killer Kane." It was a green transparent plastic tube around 3' or 4' long (I was about 3' long then, myself, so the size may be off). It had a small tube at one end that you pressed down into the center of a dandelion, and it released a little squirt of herbicide. Maybe they're still around? -- Ed Huntress A similar thing called a 'weeding wand' is sold in my part of the world. Came out in the 80's & are still around. Same as you describe but with a wick at the business end that gets sodden with herbicide and is dabbed on the evil weed. Now, that sounds like something one could make at home. I may make one and give it a try myself. I was late with the pre-emergence weed killer this year, and I have a real mess of them. -- Ed Huntress The bottle screws on at the handle end, the wand is the tube (or at least contains a small diameter tube) the wick was like soft cotton rope about 3/8" diameter. Problem I had was with small bottles of expensive pesticide a good deal of it was spent soaking the wick. Tried to find a pic, I only found this butane powered one.... http://www.crocus.co.uk/images/produ...03769_card.jpg Aha. That looks like a small weed burner, which also was common when I was a kid. It leaves ugly black spots that don't seem to go away all summer. I'd think it would be tricky to find the right wick material, so that you got adequate flow without having the thing drip on your grass while you move around. Still, it looks promising. I've tried applying Ortho's Roundup (an all-purpose herbicide that kills everything) with a small paintbrush, just to see if it works and can be controlled, and it does. A wick-type dispenser might just save my back. -- Ed Huntress |
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I'd think it would be tricky to find the right wick material, so that you got adequate flow without having the thing drip on your grass while you move around. Still, it looks promising. I've tried applying Ortho's Roundup (an all-purpose herbicide that kills everything) with a small paintbrush, just to see if it works and can be controlled, and it does. A wick-type dispenser might just save my back. The wicks don't work well, because of the drip issue. We use a cloth glove over a plastic glove with 65% pure Monsanto roundup mixed with 1/3 crop oil for weeds like quack grass. A little dab will do ya. goes fast. back to my query, the small pressure bottle sprayers aren't what we're after. This wand you've mentioned may be what we'd like, but it can't drip and you must be able to quickly dispense a 1/4 gram of material. Think 1000's of cycles. Karl |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:49:35 +0800, Stealth Pilot wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:16:25 -0500, "Karl Townsend" wrote: Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl gardening shops in australia sell a nylon pressurised sprayer with a long wand. it has a handle which doubles as a pressure pump. holds 10 litres and has a control valve just by the thumb. not expensive. your Home Depot should have something similar in the gardening section. 10 litres of diesel oil will weigh something close to 40 pounds. I suspect Karl's wife would want something a little smaller. |
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"Karl Townsend" wrote in message anews.com... ... I'd think it would be tricky to find the right wick material, so that you got adequate flow without having the thing drip on your grass while you move around. Still, it looks promising. I've tried applying Ortho's Roundup (an all-purpose herbicide that kills everything) with a small paintbrush, just to see if it works and can be controlled, and it does. A wick-type dispenser might just save my back. The wicks don't work well, because of the drip issue. We use a cloth glove over a plastic glove with 65% pure Monsanto roundup mixed with 1/3 crop oil for weeds like quack grass. A little dab will do ya. goes fast. That's an idea. I still picture myself taking pain killers for my back...d8-) back to my query, the small pressure bottle sprayers aren't what we're after. This wand you've mentioned may be what we'd like, but it can't drip and you must be able to quickly dispense a 1/4 gram of material. Think 1000's of cycles. Karl See if the Killer Kane is still around. I haven't seen it in hardware stores for decades, but maybe it's available online. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:16:25 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote: Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl Google brought this up:-------- http://weedwandmagic.com/ ED |
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"Karl Townsend" writes:
Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. Spraying diesel fuel in your garden? That's not a long-term approach... there's a broad spectrum herbicide named "Round Up" that kills anything green you put it on, and breaks down into inert components so quickly it doesn't have a half-life in the soil. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? I've got a nylon pressure sprayer with a long wand that I bought several decades ago in the garden section of a hardware store. Works like a champ. |
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Why not just slip a length of Tygon tubing over the end of a pump oiler
spout? It it's too floppy, slip in a piece of solid copper wire, so you can shape it to suit. |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:16:25 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote: Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl How about one of those standard insecticide sprayers that has a small tank attached? Wand and a hose, fill with diesel, pump it up and take a walk, going sputz sputz sputz. Find em cheap at the hardware store and Kmart Gunner |
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Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:16:25 -0500, "Karl Townsend" wrote: Milady is in charge of killing dandelions on six acres of strawberries. Note our spelling in the title. Diesel fuel werks grate. Just a squirt in the whirl in early spring. She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Karl How about one of those standard insecticide sprayers that has a small tank attached? Wand and a hose, fill with diesel, pump it up and take a walk, going sputz sputz sputz. Find em cheap at the hardware store and Kmart Gunner We use one of thoes as the hot water shower aboard the sail boat. I guess I better check to make sure it's water and not diesel :) Oopsies! -- (remove the X to email) Now just why the HELL do I have to press 1 for English? John Wayne |
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"Karl Townsend" wrote: She wants a squirt thingy (her words) and a long doodad (her words again) so she don't have to bend over. OK, I'm thinking huge squirt oil can. Re-arrange trigger, add long spout and install a spring ball check valve. Anyone seen a squirt oil can that holds a quart or more? Other ideas? Ordinary one-gallon (or two) pneumatic sprayer, with the tip dialed out to "stream". ie, the one I use for dormant oil (I have a few less trees than you do, to say the least) would work fine. Blip the trigger and squirt some oil. Put on the strap for easy carrying, or drop it in a pack basket. Of course, as a large orchardist you may not have one handy, since you use rather bigger spray equipment. But easy and cheap to get. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:22:36 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote: Google brought this up:-------- http://weedwandmagic.com/ THANKS I'm ordering one right away. Karl Youre welcome Please post a review when you get one., I might want to try one.. Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. ED |
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Please post a review when you get one., I might want to try one.. Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. The review didn't take long. She's already tried one and didn't like it. Too slow and drips. She wants a squirt thingy that can be held in one hand, with a long doodad to put right on the weed without bending over. Oh well, back to the design table. Karl |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:56:24 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote: Please post a review when you get one., I might want to try one.. Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. The review didn't take long. She's already tried one and didn't like it. Too slow and drips. She wants a squirt thingy that can be held in one hand, with a long doodad to put right on the weed without bending over. Oh well, back to the design table. Karl Ok----- on my hand weed sprayer, I spliced in length of 1/4" soft copper line. The splices were made with brass tube of the correct size. Pretty easy to do...start with brass wand, cut, section in splices--done.. maybe 5 minutes.. now the spray wand is maybe ankle high when in use..ED |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:22:43 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth: "Den" wrote in message ... Tried to find a pic, I only found this butane powered one.... http://www.crocus.co.uk/images/produ...03769_card.jpg Aha. That looks like a small weed burner, which also was common when I was a kid. It leaves ugly black spots that don't seem to go away all summer. I'd think it would be tricky to find the right wick material, so that you got adequate flow without having the thing drip on your grass while you move around. Still, it looks promising. I've tried applying Ortho's Roundup (an all-purpose herbicide that kills everything) with a small paintbrush, just to see if it works and can be controlled, and it does. A wick-type dispenser might just save my back. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91037 I picked up one of these and used it to deweed a lady's entire driveway last month. They sound like jet engines on takeoff. Wicked fun, that. bseg The piezo starter is a must-have item, so don't cheap out. The torch is also good for starting my burn pile when it's damp around the edges. -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91037 I picked up one of these and used it to deweed a lady's entire driveway last month. They sound like jet engines on takeoff. ... Might be kinda tricky when the damndelion is cuddled up next to a strawberry plant. Bob |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:42:29 GMT, _
wrote: 10 litres of diesel oil will weigh something close to 40 pounds. I suspect Karl's wife would want something a little smaller. approximately 18 pounds and 12 ounces :-| Mark Rand RTFM |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:12:51 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Bob
Engelhardt quickly quoth: Larry Jaques wrote: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91037 I picked up one of these and used it to deweed a lady's entire driveway last month. They sound like jet engines on takeoff. ... Might be kinda tricky when the damndelion is cuddled up next to a strawberry plant. Bob Never tried fried strawberries, eh, Bob? vbg -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:37:34 -0600, ED wrote:
Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. ED Useless bloody stuff... doesn't work worth a damn on horsetails (Equisetum arvense). Ammonium sulphamate works extremely well and degrades to ammonium sulphate in the soil. Trouble is that it was banned in Europe this year and my stocks will run out in two or three years time :-( Mark Rand RTFM |
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:15:23 +0100, Mark Rand wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:42:29 GMT, _ wrote: 10 litres of diesel oil will weigh something close to 40 pounds. I suspect Karl's wife would want something a little smaller. approximately 18 pounds and 12 ounces :-| Yup; somehow I multipled in my head by 4.54 and took a bit off for oil being less than water. 20 pounds will still get heavy after a while out in the sun... |
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:09:44 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, _
quickly quoth: 20 pounds will still get heavy after a while out in the sun... Having done something similar, I can honestly say "That it does." I bought a 93887 padded belt http://tinyurl.com/44fd at the old HFT store and used that strapped through the handle of the 20 pound propane tank for use with my weed burner. It was bulky to haul around, but it worked for a strong guy like me. Next time, I'll strap the tank to the pneumatic-wheeled hand truck. (The cold tank froze my legs! ;) http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95061 -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
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ED wrote:
Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. ED Where do you get that in a concentrated form. I've seen it as VERY small percentage in the stuff at the box stores. ...lew... |
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ED wrote:
Ok----- on my hand weed sprayer, I spliced in length of 1/4" soft copper line. The splices were made with brass tube of the correct size. Pretty easy to do...start with brass wand, cut, section in splices--done.. maybe 5 minutes.. now the spray wand is maybe ankle high when in use..ED Any sprayer with a long wand after the valve will continue to drip after the valve is closed. It seems the valve is needed at the tip somehow. ?????? ...lew... |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:00:15 -0600, Lew Hartswick
wrote: ED wrote: Ok----- on my hand weed sprayer, I spliced in length of 1/4" soft copper line. The splices were made with brass tube of the correct size. Pretty easy to do...start with brass wand, cut, section in splices--done.. maybe 5 minutes.. now the spray wand is maybe ankle high when in use..ED Any sprayer with a long wand after the valve will continue to drip after the valve is closed. It seems the valve is needed at the tip somehow. ?????? ...lew... A no drip check valve at the end before the nozzle perhaps such as- -----http://www.solousa.com/store/flypage...s/2700316.html $4.95 Or a bit of quality time on the lathe...brass bar, small spring and a steel ball.. ED |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:57:42 -0600, Lew Hartswick
wrote: ED wrote: Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. ED Where do you get that in a concentrated form. I've seen it as VERY small percentage in the stuff at the box stores. ...lew... The local ag supply has it in 41% in multiple grades---liquid gold. Roundup Ultra or Rodeo , look at the label..the consumer grade stuff is reduced concentration. Bindweed what I can't seem to get a handle on seeds stay viable for 90 years....at least its feedable. Dicamba works but has too much residials...ED |
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:24:34 +0100, Mark Rand
wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:37:34 -0600, ED wrote: Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. ED Useless bloody stuff... doesn't work worth a damn on horsetails (Equisetum arvense). Ammonium sulphamate works extremely well and degrades to ammonium sulphate in the soil. Trouble is that it was banned in Europe this year and my stocks will run out in two or three years time :-( Mark Rand RTFM Why would Ammonium sulphamate be banned? It's about as safe as anything ever used. I hear this or that product is worthless and sometimes it's so but often it's due to user ignorance. For example I found that mixing Glyphosate with distilled water increases it's effectiveness greatly, or adding some adjuvent that changes the ph and buffers the mineral in the local water. Or even changes the ionic charge in some cases.. ED |
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Useless bloody stuff... doesn't work worth a damn on horsetails (Equisetum arvense). Ammonium sulphamate works extremely well and degrades to ammonium sulphate in the soil. Trouble is that it was banned in Europe this year and my stocks will run out in two or three years time :-( ??? I thought I was an expert on weed killers. I've not heard of this. How do you apply? concentration? method? I'm googling this compund next. Karl |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:09:48 -0600, ED wrote:
Why would Ammonium sulphamate be banned? It's about as safe as anything ever used. I hear this or that product is worthless and sometimes it's so but often it's due to user ignorance. It appears to be entirely a beurocratic political bull**** thing... A directive was produced that said that all pesticides (term apparently includes herbicides!) must have a full set of studies to show safety etc. No one was willing to pay for a new set of tests on animals for ammonium sulphamate. It is a fairly low volume market as a herbicide and isn't being pushed by Monsanto. It is, apparently, still available as a "compost accelerator", so I'll probably have to look for that in the future. Mark Rand RTFM |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:57:42 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Lew
Hartswick quickly quoth: ED wrote: Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. ED Where do you get that in a concentrated form. I've seen it as VERY small percentage in the stuff at the box stores. You must have looked at the gallons of ready-to-use (RTU) RoundUp, lew. I buy quarts of 18% concentrate for $20 at Fred Meyer, Wally World, Grange CoOp (2.5 gal @ 34%), etc. My last purchase was 25% from a local ACE Hardware store called "Weed and Grass Killer". I much prefer the "instant" RoundUp, which shows browning within hours, works in colder weather, and is rain-proof in half an hour. -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:00:15 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Lew
Hartswick quickly quoth: ED wrote: Ok----- on my hand weed sprayer, I spliced in length of 1/4" soft copper line. The splices were made with brass tube of the correct size. Pretty easy to do...start with brass wand, cut, section in splices--done.. maybe 5 minutes.. now the spray wand is maybe ankle high when in use..ED Any sprayer with a long wand after the valve will continue to drip after the valve is closed. It seems the valve is needed at the tip somehow. ?????? Perhaps you could wrap the spray tip in cloth and use that as a dauber to prevent accidental drips. -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
damndelion killer
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:09:48 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, ED
quickly quoth: On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:24:34 +0100, Mark Rand wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:37:34 -0600, ED wrote: Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. Useless bloody stuff... doesn't work worth a damn on horsetails (Equisetum arvense). Ammonium sulphamate works extremely well and degrades to ammonium sulphate in the soil. Trouble is that it was banned in Europe this year and my stocks will run out in two or three years time :-( Why would Ammonium sulphamate be banned? It's about as safe as anything ever used. I hear this or that product is worthless and sometimes it's so but often it's due to user ignorance. It's as dangerous as that horrible diHydrogen Monoxide stuff, which they're sure to ban sometime soon, along with the kitchen knives and guns Over There. -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
damndelion killer
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:09:48 -0600, ED
wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:24:34 +0100, Mark Rand wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:37:34 -0600, ED wrote: Glyphosate--is the fist of God, I use a bit of it now and again. I get dandelions in the alfalfa, they're actually pretty hard to control, Glyphosate works pretty good. I bet with that wand and mixed at %13 actual it would take only a drop or two. ED Useless bloody stuff... doesn't work worth a damn on horsetails (Equisetum arvense). Ammonium sulphamate works extremely well and degrades to ammonium sulphate in the soil. Trouble is that it was banned in Europe this year and my stocks will run out in two or three years time :-( Mark Rand RTFM Why would Ammonium sulphamate be banned? It's about as safe as anything ever used. I hear this or that product is worthless and sometimes it's so but often it's due to user ignorance. For example I found that mixing Glyphosate with distilled water increases it's effectiveness greatly, or adding some adjuvent that changes the ph and buffers the mineral in the local water. Or even changes the ionic charge in some cases.. ED Or add a few drops of deisel fuel as a surfactant. Thenit even kills poison ivy. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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