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Rec.Crafts.Metalworking

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Analysis of posts to Rec.Crafts.Metalworking
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(stats compiled with a script by Garry Knight)


Total posts considered: 1,323 over 7 days
Earliest article: Mon May 5 00:55:12 2008
Latest article: Sun May 11 22:55:35 2008
Original articles: 156, replies: 1,167
Total size of posts: 4,025,685 bytes (3,931K) (3.84M)
Average 189 articles per day, 0.55 MB per day, 3,042 bytes per article
Total headers: 1,815 KB bodies: 2,115 KB
Body text - quoted: 1,092 KB, original: 813 KB = 42.66%, sigs: 203 KB
Total number of posters: 277, average 14,533 bytes per poster
Total number of threads: 200, average 20,128 bytes per thread
Total number of User-Agents: 38

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Top 20 posters by number of articles
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1: "Ed Huntress" ....................... . : 115
2: Gunner .................... ...... : 70
3: Cliff ............................... ....... : 43
4: cavelamb himself ..................... : 40
5: Wes ................................ ......... : 36
6: Larry Jaques ................... : 35
7: "DoN. Nichols" .......................... : 34
8: "Hawke" ....................... ..... : 33
9: Bruce in Bangkok ........... : 32
10: mariposas rand mair fheal ............... : 30
11: Gunner Asch ..................... . : 27
12: "Martin H. Eastburn" .............. : 21
13: Joseph Gwinn .......................... .. : 21
14: "John R. Carroll" ......... : 21
15: ............................................. : 18
16: ................................... : 16
17: "RAM³" ...................... ...... : 15
18: Monika Krug ....... : 13
19: "Jon Danniken" ............... : 13
20: Jim Wilkins ................................ . : 12

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Top 20 posters by article size in Kbytes
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1: "Ed Huntress" ....................... . : 427
2: Gunner .................... ...... : 239
3: "DoN. Nichols" .......................... : 159
4: Joseph Gwinn .......................... .. : 128
5: "Hawke" ....................... ..... : 120
6: Bruce in Bangkok ........... : 118
7: Larry Jaques ................... : 112
8: mariposas rand mair fheal ............... : 110
9: cavelamb himself ..................... : 110
10: "John R. Carroll" ......... : 91
11: Cliff ............................... ....... : 91
12: Gunner Asch ..................... . : 78
13: Wes ................................ ......... : 73
14: "Martin H. Eastburn" .............. : 68
15: ............................................. : 63
16: Darrell Stec ............... .. : 43
17: Monika Krug ....... : 38
18: Leon Fisk ......................... ... : 37
19: ................................... : 37
20: Wolf 253 ........................... .... : 36

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Top 20 responders by original text ( 5 posts)
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1: Dave ................................ ........ : 96.96%
2: Richard J Kinch ............................ : 81.81%
3: "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com........... : 80.34%
4: "SteveB" toquerville,utah@zionvistas..................... .... : 77.15%
5: "Karl Townsend" .............. : 76.49%
6: Nick Mueller ............................ .. : 74.83%
7: ............................................. : 68.68%
8: "Robert Swinney" ........................... : 67.29%
9: Leon Fisk ......................... ... : 64.63%
10: "John R. Carroll" ......... : 61.39%
11: ................................... : 55.04%
12: spaco .............................. : 54.01%
13: Wes ................................ ......... : 53.94%
14: pyotr filipivich ........................ : 52.90%
15: The One True Roger ....................... : 52.90%
16: John Husvar ........................... . : 52.40%
17: "William Noble" ........................... : 51.24%
18: "R.H." ............................. ...... : 51.01%
19: Jim Wilkins ................................ . : 49.63%
20: nick hull ................................... ... : 49.30%

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Bottom 20 responders by original text ( 5 posts)
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1: Jim Chandler ................................. .. : 13.73%
2: Dan ............................ ......... : 14.38%
3: "over a barrel" .............. : 17.51%
4: Wolf 253 ........................... .... : 17.80%
5: cavelamb himself ..................... : 19.00%
6: Ignoramus15455 ........... : 20.83%
7: " .................... : 20.95%
8: Lew Hartswick ...................... . : 22.73%
9: Gunner .................... ...... : 23.29%
10: David Billington ............ : 23.84%
11: .......................................... : 24.29%
12: "Terry Keeley" tkee(no ...................... : 25.78%
13: "Michael A. Terrell" .............. : 26.32%
14: Joseph Gwinn .......................... .. : 26.95%
15: "DoN. Nichols" .......................... : 28.24%
16: clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada......................... : 28.28%
17: Why ..................................... ......... : 28.36%
18: stryped ............................. ..... : 28.59%
19: Monika Krug ....... : 29.09%
20: "RAM³" ...................... ...... : 29.97%

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Top 20 threads by no. of articles
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1: How to REALLY cut US taxes..................................... : 176
2: OT:McCain's War Record......................................... : 142
3: crude oil's record ascent to solidly above $121 per barrel..... : 66
4: OK which is it Global Warming or Cooling?...................... : 62
5: OT_Rev.Wright..................................... ............. : 51
6: HF band saw............................................... ..... : 35
7: (mini gloat) Here come da JUDGE!............................... : 30
8: What is it? Set 231............................................ : 28
9: Treadmill motor wiring diagram, anyone???...................... : 25
10: Titanium Alloys?........................................... .... : 24
11: TIG welding aluminum.......................................... . : 22
12: Trailer fender question........................................ : 21
13: How to REALLY cut US taxes - ID, deporting..................... : 20
14: Compressor Gloat............................................. .. : 19
15: OT swingsets......................................... .......... : 18
16: Trepanning and Parting Off..................................... : 18
17: Soft vise jaws -- aluminum vs. brass........................... : 17
18: Foot controls.......................................... ........ : 17
19: FREE linear slide -- Chicagoland local pickup only............. : 15
20: 1/8" or smaller drill bits..................................... : 14

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Top 20 threads by size in KB
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1: How to REALLY cut US taxes..................................... : 624
2: OT:McCain's War Record......................................... : 431
3: OK which is it Global Warming or Cooling?...................... : 253
4: crude oil's record ascent to solidly above $121 per barrel..... : 215
5: OT_Rev.Wright..................................... ............. : 165
6: Trepanning and Parting Off..................................... : 140
7: HF band saw............................................... ..... : 78
8: (mini gloat) Here come da JUDGE!............................... : 76
9: Titanium Alloys?........................................... .... : 72
10: How to REALLY cut US taxes - ID, deporting..................... : 71
11: What is it? Set 231............................................ : 64
12: What is it? Set 230............................................ : 63
13: Treadmill motor wiring diagram, anyone???...................... : 61
14: Trailer fender question........................................ : 58
15: TIG welding aluminum.......................................... . : 49
16: OT swingsets......................................... .......... : 46
17: Scope thingy?........................................... ....... : 40
18: Foot controls.......................................... ........ : 38
19: FREE linear slide -- Chicagoland local pickup only............. : 37
20: OT: The Taboo Word............................................. : 37

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Top 10 cross-posted groups
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1: alt.aol.tricks.................................... ............. : 369
2: alt.machines.cnc.................................. ............. : 339
3: misc.survivalism.................................. ............. : 333
4: alt.usenet.kooks.................................. ............. : 262
5: sci.engr.joining.welding.......................... ............. : 33
6: rec.woodworking................................... ............. : 29
7: rec.puzzles....................................... ............. : 29
8: alt.politics.republicans.......................... ............. : 18
9: alt.politics...................................... ............. : 15
10: alt.impeach.bush.................................. ............. : 10

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Top 10 User Agents by poster
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1: G2/1.0............................................... .......... : 90
2: Microsoft Outlook Express...................................... : 50
3: Forte Agent............................................. ....... : 33
4: Mozilla........................................... ............. : 20
5: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421)........................ : 14
6: rn................................................ ............. : 11
7: Unknown........................................... ............. : 8
8: MT-NewsWatcher....................................... .......... : 8
9: Xnews............................................. ............. : 7
10: Forte Free Agent............................................. .. : 5

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Top 10 User Agents by number of posts
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1: Outlook Express........................................... : 318 (24%)
2: Forte Agent............................................. .. : 290 (22%)
3: G2................................................ ........ : 173 (13%)
4: Mozilla........................................... ........ : 95 ( 7%)
5: MT-NewsWatcher....................................... ..... : 71 ( 5%)
6: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows............................. : 66 ( 5%)
7: slrn.............................................. ........ : 59 ( 4%)
8: Forte Free Agent.......................................... : 55 ( 4%)
9: unknown........................................... ........ : 43 ( 3%)
10: Xnews............................................. ........ : 41 ( 3%)

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Top 10 time zones
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1: -0400.............................................. ............ : 348
2: -0700.............................................. ............ : 313
3: -0500.............................................. ............ : 227
4: -0700 (PDT)............................................. ....... : 173
5: UTC............................................... ............. : 154
6: +0700............................................. ............. : 32
7: +0200............................................. ............. : 19
8: -0800.............................................. ............ : 17
9: +0100............................................. ............. : 16
10: -0600.............................................. ............ : 9

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Turquoise SuperStat 2.2 * Message area statistics
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(c) Copyright 1998-2005 Peter Karlsson

This report covers 6688 messages written between 2008-04-12 00:00:09 and
2008-05-11 23:59:56

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Blacklist of quoters (of people who have written at least three messages)

Place Name Msgs Ratio
1. zynteq7 4 96.32%
2. Kali 4 93.11%
3. Mark F 8 91.72%
4. Bob Brock 36 90.28%
5. dozr 15 88.91%
6. Tom 22 88.75%
7. 54 87.90%
8. wstiefer 3 87.41%
9. Rightisright 36 85.67%
10. charlie 3 85.59%
11. Gerry 4 84.71%
12. Myal 5 83.82%
13. Ken Sterling 4 83.34%
14. 24 83.01%
15. Wolf 253 11 82.62%

A total of 11017169 bytes were written (message bodies only), of which
4629157, or 42.02%, were quotes.

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Toplist of writers

Place Name Msgs Bytes Quoted
1. Cliff 373 344550 55.3%
2. Ed Huntress 341 758508 8.1%
3. Gunner Asch 195 401483 44.5%
4. Larry Jaques 147 209197 55.4%
5. Don Foreman 129 175381 55.2%
6. Wes 124 85568 43.5%
7. Gunner 115 240888 46.5%
8. Too_Many_Tools 112 235257 74.4%
9. mariposas rand mair fheal 111 147804 65.1%
10. Hawke 106 268206 67.0%
11. Bruce in Bangkok 85 159026 65.9%
12. DoN. Nichols 83 247829 52.8%
Michael A. Terrell 83 89862 50.5%
14. cavelamb himself 78 72786 59.6%
15. clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada 73 135317 68.4%

A total of 1186 people were identified.

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Toplist of original content per message (of people who have written at
least three messages)

Place Name Orig. / Msgs = PrMsg Quoted
1. TRMF4445 131190 / 3 = 43730
2. Statistics 87904 / 4 = 21976
3. okexport 27072 / 3 = 9024
4. 62112 / 8 = 7764
5. 15800 / 3 = 5266
6. 15200 / 3 = 5066
7. 14585 / 3 = 4861 39.4%
8. 13456 / 3 = 4485
9. 13439 / 3 = 4479
10. 16266 / 4 = 4066 4.3%
11. 11953 / 3 = 3984
12. 11854 / 3 = 3951
13. 10769 / 3 = 3589
14. Alan 14053 / 4 = 3513 10.9%
15. 13690 / 4 = 3422

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Toplist of subjects

Place Subject Msgs Bytes
1. Black Holes 253 375719
2. Who ya votin' for??? 212 343182
3. How to REALLY cut US taxes 176 353294
4. OT - As the noose tightens on the progun crowd... 166 340723
5. OT:McCain's War Record 152 228552
6. Surprising increase in truck MPG 149 196920
7. $4 dollar gas and its effects on metalworking 143 275291
8. OK which is it Global Warming or Cooling? 138 296463
9. OT Diesel engines 105 230010
10. US Life Expectancy Falls 94 147714
11. Steel wire carrying twelve volts ? 87 90967
12. OT - You Thought You Had an Equity Line 84 204230
13. old techniques still in use? 81 99293
14. crude oil's record ascent to solidly above $121 per barre 66 107888
15. OT_Rev.Wright 65 104275

A total of 1526 subjects were identified.

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Toplist of programs

Place Program Msgs
1. G2 1792
2. Microsoft Outlook Express 1186
3. Forte Agent 958
4. Forte Free Agent 443
5. Mozilla 344
6. Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English 310
Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 310
8. MT-NewsWatcher 224
9. slrn 211
10. Xnews 185
11. Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 94
12. Microsoft Windows Mail 60
13. KNode 52
14. Pan 48
15. Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 40

A total of 45 different programs (not counting different versions) were
identified.

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I was going to look into that but right now I have another problem.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at ./newsstatsrcm2
line 533.
Exiting subroutine via next at ./newsstatsrcm2 line 539.
Label not found for "next POSTER" at ./newsstatsrcm2 line 539.


Path: forte-easynews!core-iad-easynews!news-in-02-iad.easynews.com!s02-b07.iad01!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.c om!newshub.sdsu.edu!flpi089.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.n et!flpi088.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi107.ffdc.s bc.com!flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com.POSTED!8c97e047!not-for-mail
Message-ID:
From: "John R. Carroll"
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking
Subject: Obamas plans for the US
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:39:35 -0700
References:
Lines: 13
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.111.14.79
X-Complaints-To:
X-Trace: flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com 1211226132 ST000 69.111.14.79 (Mon, 19 May 2008 15:42:12 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:42:12 EDT
Organization: at&t http://my.att.net/
X-UserInfo1: Q[R_PJON_ZVQW^MSNCOF_W\@PJ_^PBQLGPQRJWQHBATBTSUBYFWE AE[YJLYPIWKHTFCMZKVMB^[Z^DOBRVVMOSPFHNSYXVDIE@X\BUC@GTSX@DL^GKFFHQCCE\G[JJBMYDYIJCZM@AY]GNGPJD]YNNW\GSX^GSCKHA[]@CCB\[@LATPD\L@J\\PF]VR[QPJN
Xref: barefoot.wess.mdns.org rec.crafts.metalworking:79081


Looks like newsstat bombs if someone posts without a
User-Agent:
Line.

Something always seems to break.

Wes


Steve Ackman wrote:

In , on Mon, 12 May 2008 04:40:08 GMT,
Statistics, wrote:

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Top 20 responders by original text ( 5 posts)
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*1: Dave ................................ ........ : 96.96%
2: Richard J Kinch ............................ : 81.81%
3: "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com........... : 80.34%
*4: "SteveB" toquerville,utah@zionvistas..................... .... : 77.15%
*5: "Karl Townsend" .............. : 76.49%
6: Nick Mueller ............................ .. : 74.83%
7: ............................................. : 68.68%
*8: "Robert Swinney" ........................... : 67.29%
9: Leon Fisk ......................... ... : 64.63%
*10: "John R. Carroll" ......... : 61.39%

Have you noticed that when OE replies to Google
Groups these days the quoted material doesn't get the
leading signs?

5 of the top ten listed "top responders" use OE, so
any response to a Google post during the covered time
frame artificially raised the original text numbers.
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Steve Ackman wrote:

I've got pretty much everything put into a database,
the way I want it (which you can see will make a really
nice platform for a stats process ;-)
Gettin' there.



Your solution using a database sounds sweet. When you get it working do you
plan to put it out in the public domain like Gary Knight did?

Wes

Steve Ackman wrote:

Hmmm... I wonder how many of those 5168 are really
one certain person who likes to, for some unfathomable
reason, change his number all the time:

mysql select distinct Sender from rcm where Sender like 'Ignoramus%';
...
| Ignoramus20845 |
| Ignoramus11550 |
| Ignoramus26684 |
| Ignoramus8788 |
| Ignoramus12898 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
445 rows in set (3.40 sec)

I can't remember if iggy is using the process id of his newsreader in
replies or not. Since it doesn't reduce to a valid email address, I don't
see the point.


Filtering on ignoramus would be trivial so it can't be to avoid black
listing.

Wes

Steve Ackman wrote:

Right now it's a hodgepodge of a shell script using
awk and sed and temporary files to populate the
database. The process has a problem with special
characters, throwing errors on the INSERT with 46
of every 10,000 posts in rcm.
Most of those seem to be in X-Trace headers. To get
around that for the short term, I *could* simply
deactivate the insertion of that header for the
articles that fail, but that's an ugly hack, and it
makes the database that much less useful when the
X-Trace header is the one you're particularly
interested in.

I'll have to google up what that is this weekend. Xtrace.

I may end up starting over with php or some other
language that containerizes the data in a way that
insulates it from the shell.

At any rate, it's that time of year that I start
spending less time at the computer, so I don't expect
to be putting much time into it until winter rolls
around again.

I know that feeling. Maybe next year I'll learn perl for real. Right now I
am relying on what I know about other languages to keep Gary Knights script
running. Add to the fact that everything is running inside of windows.

Still waiting for summer though. Ran the furnace last night.

Wes