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Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night,
made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Jan 10, 12:51 pm, Gunner wrote:
I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner I'd try the Permatex® epoxy stick. Probably as good as any Gunner. Get the wood to a nub, sand the tank clean 2" or 3" dia., loosen the gas cap. Luck, wws. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"Gunner" wrote: What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You're past that point now, but for the future, I believe soap will stop a gasoline leak. If you can get it clean, fiberglass would be a good bet. I would run it dry or drain it and pull the plug. Then use a punch or some other tool to create a sort of flare with a ragged edge, so you get some mechanical bonding. If possible, stuff some of the fiberglass into the hole. Since you have two tanks, I would leave this one empty for a few days, to be sure the cure is complete before it is exposed to gasoline. I epoxied a glass window to the float chamber of a carburetor once, and it held. I just had another idea: Shove a toggle screw in through the hole, and use it to hold a flat washer against the outside, with epoxy as a sealant. If necessary, shape the washer so it is a snug fit, i.e., not tilted by the support band. Could you loosen the support band and use it to help hold the metal patch? |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"Gunner" wrote in message ... I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Since you mention only one hole, does that mean the bullet is still in the tank? If so, I'd just leave it there. If it were me, I'd run the tank reasonably dry, pull the plug and drain the rest into a can, and get out a tapered hand reamer to clean up the hole. Then I'd get a hex-head machine screw to fit the hole. I'd run a tap in there but use just the front part of a taper tap, or a small pipe tap if you think you can get away with it. If you have a choice, use a thread-forming tap to maximize the amount of thread you'll have left after making the threads in thin metal. Then screw in the machine screw. You want a really tight fit, of course, because you don't have a reliable way to lock it in. As for gaskets, you can be our test lab for things that will hold up to gasoline. g I wouldn't use a liquid; neither epoxy nor ordinary silicones can be trusted. You might try an O-ring made of one of the elastomers that are used for fuel-system parts. Or, considering how much lead you have around, you might just try making a gasket out of soft lead. That would be my first choice if the tank is thick enough to really clamp the screw down. Remember than an empty gas tank is a bomb waiting to go off. No sparks. No hammers. Good luck. -- Ed Huntress |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
I believe that there is a kit for this sort of thing. Visit Napa or
some such store with "old guys" working there, and ask for it. i |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"Gunner" wrote in message ... I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, snip SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL magic stuff!!! |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
Ed Huntress wrote:
"Gunner" wrote in message ... I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, Then screw in the machine screw. You want a really tight fit, of course, because you don't have a reliable way to lock it in. As for gaskets, you can be our test lab for things that will hold up to gasoline. g I wouldn't use a liquid; neither epoxy nor ordinary silicones can be trusted. You might try an O-ring made of one of the elastomers that are used for fuel-system parts. Or, considering how much lead you have around, you might just try making a gasket out of soft lead. That would be my first choice if the tank is thick enough to really clamp the screw down. Good luck. -- Ed Huntress Never silicon. I used silicon gasket maker and I just swells up win contact with gasoline. The excess inside broke loose and blocked the fuel intake. Howard Garner |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
Gunner wrote:
I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner Purge it with Argon before you TIG it... |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Jan 10, 10:51*am, Gunner wrote:
I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank Pump out the tank (OK, siphon it...), and put a chunk of dry ice inside. When the oxygen is gone and the gas fumes are condensed, and it won't explode, clean around the hole and solder on a patch. If you have a threaded plug, you can probably flux the threads and solder it in place. Acid flux (like for stainless steel) and 50/50 or 60/40 solder will work best. That "when it won't explode" step is kinda important. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
Gunner wrote: I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. You're lucky it was only the tank. My wife drive over a concrete median and broke a big chunk off the transaxle main housing on our new-to-us 2000 Toyota Corolla. We got this mostly for our kids to drive, and she was so worried about THEM having an accident, then she goes out and pulls a REALLY brilliant move with all of them in the car! My wife drives by the force ("Use the force, Luke!") all the time, and has pulled some amazing stunts, like driving the driver's door into a one-foot diameter light pole in a parking lot. I mean, a couple inches more and it would have smashed her like a bug. That was on our previous van. But, anyway, this one was a median on a 4-lane major street, and there was 6" or so of snow, so you couldn't see the median. But, I'm sure the snow was in such a way it was clear that NO ONE ELSE had made a turn there, they all knew there was a median under the snow. Anyway, it popped the air bags, broke the windshield, crunched the tranny and did some minor suspension denting underneath. Of course, it was totalled out, and we bought the wreck and are having it rebuilt. Geez, I hope that is going to turn out to be a good decision. Jon |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"Tom Gardner" wrote: SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL magic stuff!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If it takes that many coats, I'd look for something else. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"whit3rd" wrote: (clip)That "when it won't explode" step is kinda important. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you're gunna solder with a heavy electric soldering iron, you're pretty safe. If you plan to do it with a torch, be sure to warn the neighbors to take shelter, kuz that "when it won't explode" part is hard to verify in advance. I once blew up a Harley tank that was full of water. Well, ALMOST full of water. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:35:26 -0500, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, snip SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL magic stuff!!! Seconded |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
Gunner wrote:
it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank If you can get access into the tank, this could work: Get a nut, weld a length of wire (1/8" welding rod?) to it, get it over the hole inside tank. Put a fuel-resistant rubber washer on a matching screw, thread into hole and nut. Wire will help nut catch screw, and prevent rotation. Wire will yank off if only lightly attached. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:30:57 -0600, "Robert Swinney"
wrote: Where Tom stuttered and sez "SEAL-ALL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . magic stuff!!!" Insert JB Weld. It will cure under gasoline. So will Seal-All. Bob Swinney "Tom Gardner" wrote in message ... "Gunner" wrote in message .. . I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, snip SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL magic stuff!!! |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"wws" wrote in message ... On Jan 10, 12:51 pm, Gunner wrote: I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner i'm surprised nobody said "is it plastic or steel?" i have an '05 Ranger that has a polypropylene (?) polyethylene (?) gas tank. i figured, like in a previous thread about fixing a plastic lawn mower tank, the only way to fix polypropylene is a plastic welder. b.w. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"Jordan" wrote: If you can get access into the tank, this could work: Get a nut, weld a length of wire (1/8" welding rod?) to it, get it over the hole inside tank. Put a fuel-resistant rubber washer on a matching screw, thread into hole and nut. Wire will help nut catch screw, and prevent rotation. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That sounds a lot harder than my suggestion of using a toggle bolt and washer. Hell, I have a hard enough time starting a nut with my fingertips. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Jan 10, 1:51*pm, Gunner wrote:
I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. *Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. I fixed a hole in the bottom of a tank over 25 years ago with: http://www.pcepoxy.com/pastepoxies/pastepc7.asp And it's still holding up. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... "Tom Gardner" wrote: SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL magic stuff!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If it takes that many coats, I'd look for something else. I found out about Seal-All many years ago, working in a service station after high school. There was a car on the lift with a steady drip coming from a tiny hole in the gas tank. The shop jockey wire brushed the area to remove loose dirt and rust, squeezed a dap of Seal-All on one finger, wiped the spot with a rag to remove the excess gasoline and held his finger with the Seal-All on the hole for a minute. When he removed his finger, the leak had stopped, but he put a couple more coats on the be sure. He said he had fixed many gas tank leaks that way. Back to Gunners deal, I wonder is the hole may be a bit large for Seal-All, but I suppose you could glue a tin patch over the hole using the stuff. Greg |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:13:40 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Jon
Elson quickly quoth: Gunner wrote: I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. You're lucky it was only the tank. My wife drive over a concrete median and broke a big chunk off the transaxle main housing on our new-to-us 2000 Toyota Corolla. We got this mostly for our kids to drive, and she was so worried about THEM having an accident, then she goes out and pulls a REALLY brilliant move with all of them in the car! My wife drives by the force ("Use the force, Luke!") all the time, and has pulled some amazing stunts, like driving the driver's door into a one-foot diameter light pole in a parking lot. I mean, a couple inches more and it would have smashed her like a bug. That was on our previous van. But, anyway, this one was a median on a 4-lane major street, and there was 6" or so of snow, so you couldn't see the median. But, I'm sure the snow was in such a way it was clear that NO ONE ELSE had made a turn there, they all knew there was a median under the snow. Anyway, it popped the air bags, broke the windshield, crunched the tranny and did some minor suspension denting underneath. Of course, it was totalled out, and we bought the wreck and are having it rebuilt. Geez, I hope that is going to turn out to be a good decision. G'luck to both of you. To your rebuilding idea, Jon, the first thought that came to mind was "I doubt 'er, Bill." I was taking photos of the little dam upstream of me the other day after a really big storm, and I had stopped on the street to take a shot. I ended up backing up while looking at the dam instead of the road and found that there was a curve in it. (Doh!) As I noticed the back end starting to tilt down, I hit the brakes. At the same time, I heard the tree branches scraping the side of my brand new truck. After ****ting a brick and pulling forward to look at the damage, I found that I was lucky. The little sapling whose trunk was 3" outside the asphalt was soft, pliant, and hadn't put a single dent or scratch in the paint of my new truck bed. Whew! I almost soiled my new upholstery at hearing that sound, too. I seem to have been the luckiest of us three idiots. Time to start --== paying attention ==-- again, everyone! -- That man is the richest whose pleasures are the cheapest. -- Henry David Thoreau |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:20:28 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm,
Wayne Cook quickly quoth: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:30:57 -0600, "Robert Swinney" wrote: Where Tom stuttered and sez "SEAL-ALL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . magic stuff!!!" Insert JB Weld. It will cure under gasoline. So will Seal-All. I think I remember using some of that yellow and blue epoxy putty ribbon (see links below for similar products) to seal a gas tank once. I learned how to tie a shop rag on my arm below the elbow to keep the gasoline out of my arm pit that day. That smarts, if you haven't had the blessed luck to get gas in your pits yet. ;) http://www.amazon.com/Permatex-12020.../dp/B000ALG8RS or http://www.doityourself.com/invt/1446764 -- That man is the richest whose pleasures are the cheapest. -- Henry David Thoreau |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:51:43 -0800, Gunner
wrote: I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner Drain the tank. Park truck on an angle is you must, to get the tank as dry as you can. Save gas in a clean container, at $3 a gallon. Now, dry the spot and use a fine emory cloth to get it to bare metal. Get a lag bolt or even a regular bolt 3/8 Inch of hole is 1/4". Get a short bolt, or cut it off. You dont want bolt to interfere with float or pump inside. Next, take some JB Weld and glue that bolt around th threads and screw it in. Cover the head and sides of the bolt with JB. I'd use the quick dry JB so it dont drip off. Allow it to dry completely for 24 hours. You're fixed. If you got a plastic tank, ignore this. I dont know what to use.... |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:35:26 -0500, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, snip SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL SEAL-ALL magic stuff!!! Not for a 1/4" hole. Get a toggle bolt and a fender washer, and a THICK neoprene washer. Shape the fender washer to fit the form of the tank. Might want to slop some Permatex Aircraft (no n hardening) gasket sealer onto both sides of the neoprene washer before tightening. I believe it is now loctite #30516. Or use TiteSeal (T25-66) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:13:40 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Jon Elson quickly quoth: Gunner wrote: I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. You're lucky it was only the tank. My wife drive over a concrete median and broke a big chunk off the transaxle main housing on our new-to-us 2000 Toyota Corolla. We got this mostly for our kids to drive, and she was so worried about THEM having an accident, then she goes out and pulls a REALLY brilliant move with all of them in the car! My wife drives by the force ("Use the force, Luke!") all the time, and has pulled some amazing stunts, like driving the driver's door into a one-foot diameter light pole in a parking lot. I mean, a couple inches more and it would have smashed her like a bug. That was on our previous van. But, anyway, this one was a median on a 4-lane major street, and there was 6" or so of snow, so you couldn't see the median. But, I'm sure the snow was in such a way it was clear that NO ONE ELSE had made a turn there, they all knew there was a median under the snow. Anyway, it popped the air bags, broke the windshield, crunched the tranny and did some minor suspension denting underneath. Of course, it was totalled out, and we bought the wreck and are having it rebuilt. Geez, I hope that is going to turn out to be a good decision. G'luck to both of you. To your rebuilding idea, Jon, the first thought that came to mind was "I doubt 'er, Bill." I was taking photos of the little dam upstream of me the other day after a really big storm, and I had stopped on the street to take a shot. I ended up backing up while looking at the dam instead of the road and found that there was a curve in it. (Doh!) As I noticed the back end starting to tilt down, I hit the brakes. At the same time, I heard the tree branches scraping the side of my brand new truck. After ****ting a brick and pulling forward to look at the damage, I found that I was lucky. The little sapling whose trunk was 3" outside the asphalt was soft, pliant, and hadn't put a single dent or scratch in the paint of my new truck bed. Whew! I almost soiled my new upholstery at hearing that sound, too. I seem to have been the luckiest of us three idiots. Time to start --== paying attention ==-- again, everyone! -- That man is the richest whose pleasures are the cheapest. -- Henry David Thoreau Eh, you worry too much about cosmetics. When I put the first good scratch in my (then) new truck it was a "now it's a real truck" moment. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
Leo Lichtman wrote:
"whit3rd" wrote: (clip)That "when it won't explode" step is kinda important. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you're gunna solder with a heavy electric soldering iron, you're pretty safe. If you plan to do it with a torch, be sure to warn the neighbors to take shelter, kuz that "when it won't explode" part is hard to verify in advance. I once blew up a Harley tank that was full of water. Well, ALMOST full of water. I had a 30 gallon tank off of my '73 Chevy Stepvan full of water, including the neck. I lit my propane torch about a foot away. The tank jumped about 18" in the air and spun, dumping water all over the place and expanding the tank, till it split at the seam. Oh well, it was junk, anyway! :) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:51:43 -0800, Gunner
wrote: I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner Find a round head SS machine screw (or turn the corners off a hex) whose head will just go thru the hole -- or enlarge the hole suitably. Find some rubber-like fuel line (not metal) that fits snugly on the threaded part with OD just a whisker smaller than that of the head. Cut a screwdriver slot in the other end of the bolt, or grind or mill flats on it, or weld the head off a smaller socket-head cap screw to it. You'll want to grab both the bolt and a nut from the same end, like rear struts in a Rabbit. You'll need a good grip on it. Put short bit of square-cut fuel line on threaded part, shove head end into hole. Put washer and nut on outside end of bolt grab shank and tighten nut. This will compress the fuel line to a barrel shape, expanding it to fit tightly in the hole and seal it. There will also be a compression seal between the head of the bolt and the square end of the brakeline. You can cut it smooth and square with a very sharp wet razor knife, if those are still allowed in California and you have a permit. I haven't tried this in a fuel tank, but I did just now try the trick with the fuel line and bolt. Before compression the OD of the fuel line was .590, the (hex) head bolt is .562 across corners. After compression, the OD of the fuel line is .725. 90% of the job is done in a warm, dry shop. No flames so no boom. No worries about whether it'll "stick". The energy and vitality of youth is no match for the sneaky, devious cunning of maturity... Ruck! |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
Gunner wrote:
I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner Run it dry, Clean off the area REAL well and pull your wood plug. Then use a tank repair kit to patch the hole. The kit's I use are made by VersaChem and work far better than any others. http://www.versachem.com/catalog.aspx?prodID=83 -- Steve W. Near Cooperstown, New York NRA Member Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh, he'd have become a vegan. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:51:43 -0800, Gunner wrote:
I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner Just about any epoxy will stick to metal well if you grind it nice and bright. No, wait, there's something wrong with that idea... -- Tim Wescott Control systems and communications consulting http://www.wescottdesign.com Need to learn how to apply control theory in your embedded system? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" by Tim Wescott Elsevier/Newnes, http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
When my wife ran over a parking lot stop with the rebar sticking out, we got
a 6 X .5 inch rip in the tank. Pulled it off and oxy welded it up. I put the gas filler pipe on the exhaust of a running car (a Subaru, as I remember) and welded with NO problem. I just let it idle for a few minutes. Car exhaust is not good for breathing or burning. With the tank drained and a hose placed properly, should work on the car. Sound's scary as anything but it worked fine for me. Results may vary, I suppose. It wouldn't have been so bad if she hadn't just filled the 20gal tank. By the time she got home, about 2 miles, the tank was DRAINED. Respectfully, Ron Moore "Gunner" wrote in message ... I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
if the tank is metal, solder is a fine way to fix it, and requires no open
flame and will not disturb the internal anti-corrosion coating much - old gas tanks were made of stuff that as I recall was called "turn plate" - and soldered at the seams - "Ron Moore" wrote in message ... When my wife ran over a parking lot stop with the rebar sticking out, we got a 6 X .5 inch rip in the tank. Pulled it off and oxy welded it up. I put the gas filler pipe on the exhaust of a running car (a Subaru, as I remember) and welded with NO problem. I just let it idle for a few minutes. Car exhaust is not good for breathing or burning. With the tank drained and a hose placed properly, should work on the car. Sound's scary as anything but it worked fine for me. Results may vary, I suppose. It wouldn't have been so bad if she hadn't just filled the 20gal tank. By the time she got home, about 2 miles, the tank was DRAINED. Respectfully, Ron Moore "Gunner" wrote in message ... I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"William Noble" wrote in message .. . if the tank is metal, solder is a fine way to fix it, and requires no open flame and will not disturb the internal anti-corrosion coating much - old gas tanks were made of stuff that as I recall was called "turn plate" - and soldered at the seams - FYI, that's "tern plate," which is lead-coated, or more often, tin/lead-coated steel. It can be resistance-welded without destroying the coating so it's a fairly good material for gas tanks. Some gas tanks are galvanized on the inside. -- Ed Huntress |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:07:59 GMT, "William Wixon"
wrote: "wws" wrote in message ... On Jan 10, 12:51 pm, Gunner wrote: I hit a bit of road debris coming home from a job site last night, made a hell of a noise, and after I got home and parked, found it had punched a hole about 1/4" in diamter in the front tank (freshly filled) right next to a strap. Stuck a screw in..too small, stuck a lag bolt in..too small, hammered in a wooden plug. Reduced it to a drip. Not a lot of fun running the garden hose to flush the gas out from under the truck, and laying in the mess trying to get the leak stopped, in 40F weather... I dont want to pull this tank. Gonna be a MOFO to do. What products are out there that will allow me to simply patch over the top of the 1/4" stubb of wood plug sticking out? Or do I need to pull the plug (after running the tank dry?) Gunner i'm surprised nobody said "is it plastic or steel?" i have an '05 Ranger that has a polypropylene (?) polyethylene (?) gas tank. i figured, like in a previous thread about fixing a plastic lawn mower tank, the only way to fix polypropylene is a plastic welder. b.w. Sorry..it was the front tank on my 1 ton van. Steel. Lost 20 gallon$. Must have made it damned uncomfortable for those behind me.... Gunner |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:30:05 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
wrote: "Jordan" wrote: If you can get access into the tank, this could work: Get a nut, weld a length of wire (1/8" welding rod?) to it, get it over the hole inside tank. Put a fuel-resistant rubber washer on a matching screw, thread into hole and nut. Wire will help nut catch screw, and prevent rotation. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That sounds a lot harder than my suggestion of using a toggle bolt and washer. Hell, I have a hard enough time starting a nut with my fingertips. I LIKE the toggle bolt idea. With some steel epoxy under the fender washer. Gunner |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:39:01 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: You're funny. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... Since you mention only one hole, does that mean the bullet is still in the tank? If so, I'd just leave it there. Nah..Ive never shot my own vehicle. Well..there was one time I was shooting ground squirrels and I let the barrel drop a bit much while shooting from a ridge line. that 1.5" distance between the bore and the cross hairs did me in. Put a neat groove on the very edge of the hood. Gunner |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:59:52 -0600, "Ron Moore"
wrote: It wouldn't have been so bad if she hadn't just filled the 20gal tank. By the time she got home, about 2 miles, the tank was DRAINED. Respectfully, Ron Moore Id just paid $3.19 per and filled that 20 gallon tank. I managed to salvage about 3 gallons. If I were at home up north, I could have saved a lot of it..but down here in LA..Ive got no containers of any sort. It really sucked watching that expensive sheen on the water flowing away down the gutter.... Gunner |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:26:45 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Pete C." quickly quoth: Larry Jaques wrote: At the same time, I heard the tree branches scraping the side of my brand new truck. After ****ting a brick and pulling forward to look at the damage, I found that I was lucky. Eh, you worry too much about cosmetics. When I put the first good scratch in my (then) new truck it was a "now it's a real truck" moment. I did that with my last truck for 17 years. Now I want PURTY for at least a short while, if I may. -- That man is the richest whose pleasures are the cheapest. -- Henry David Thoreau |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:26:45 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, "Pete C." quickly quoth: Larry Jaques wrote: At the same time, I heard the tree branches scraping the side of my brand new truck. After ****ting a brick and pulling forward to look at the damage, I found that I was lucky. Eh, you worry too much about cosmetics. When I put the first good scratch in my (then) new truck it was a "now it's a real truck" moment. I did that with my last truck for 17 years. Now I want PURTY for at least a short while, if I may. -- That man is the richest whose pleasures are the cheapest. -- Henry David Thoreau Eh, I'm still driving that "real" truck some 11 years later. When I finally get that shiny new F550 to replace it, I'll try to keep it shiny and purty... for at least 90 days :) |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:43:57 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Pete C." quickly quoth: Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:26:45 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, "Pete C." quickly quoth: Larry Jaques wrote: At the same time, I heard the tree branches scraping the side of my brand new truck. After ****ting a brick and pulling forward to look at the damage, I found that I was lucky. Eh, you worry too much about cosmetics. When I put the first good scratch in my (then) new truck it was a "now it's a real truck" moment. I did that with my last truck for 17 years. Now I want PURTY for at least a short while, if I may. -- That man is the richest whose pleasures are the cheapest. -- Henry David Thoreau Eh, I'm still driving that "real" truck some 11 years later. When I finally get that shiny new F550 to replace it, I'll try to keep it shiny and purty... for at least 90 days :) I must admit that I'm ready to start punching holes in mine, but on the -inside-, TYVM. I picked up another set of speakers yesterday, and I removed the stake hole covers to insert my tiedowns. I also need to find a good profile of extruded aluminum channel for inside the bed. The deck rail and tiedown stuff they have is beaucoup expensive and I don't have any firstborns to sacrifice to them. http://www.brandsport.com/toy-pt271-34070-hw.html is cheaper than the dealer, but that's not saying much. Anyone seen any extrusions which might work for me? Who has a good selection of aluminum channel profiles at dirt cheap prices? --- Chaos, panic, and disorder--my work here is done. |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"Gunner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:39:01 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: You're funny. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... Since you mention only one hole, does that mean the bullet is still in the tank? If so, I'd just leave it there. Nah..Ive never shot my own vehicle. Well..there was one time... Well, that's good. I thought maybe we were in for another round of "guns as tools," and I was wondering whether you were using your Raven as a torque wrench or a crowbar. -- Ed Huntress |
Punched a hole in my gas tank last night
"Pete C." wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:26:45 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, "Pete C." quickly quoth: Larry Jaques wrote: At the same time, I heard the tree branches scraping the side of my brand new truck. After ****ting a brick and pulling forward to look at the damage, I found that I was lucky. Eh, you worry too much about cosmetics. When I put the first good scratch in my (then) new truck it was a "now it's a real truck" moment. I did that with my last truck for 17 years. Now I want PURTY for at least a short while, if I may. -- That man is the richest whose pleasures are the cheapest. -- Henry David Thoreau Eh, I'm still driving that "real" truck some 11 years later. When I finally get that shiny new F550 to replace it, I'll try to keep it shiny and purty... for at least 90 days :) Don't know about you, but I put people with clean shiny dentless trucks in the same category as people with clean desks. They're too busy cleaning to do anything. I see lots of 4wd trucks that have never been put in 4wd. Thousands spent on lift kits and shocks and garbage, and all done with the "LOOK AT ME" mentality. I like Bubba trucks that have obvious wear. The guy may be a slob, but you know he gets out his driveway. If he has one, that is. I had a guy drop two buckets of gravel in my three day old Dodge 2500. He asked me if I was sure I wanted to do that, and I said that's what I bought the truck for. Several dings in one year. Some from stupidity, and some happened overnight in the garage. Wife and I differ on actual facts. But we have BOTH backed into small cars with it. Got my ass chewed royally for being the first. Not much was said when she repeated it a few weeks later. Why is that? "I don't know where that dent came from. Must have been when YOU went to the store." Steve |
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