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Timing/ power trans. belt
I have seen semi-high horse power aplications of timing belts, even a 350
v-8 chev/harley. My question is, has anyone ever seen a timing belt, say 1 1/4" wide, three hundred h.p. that uses a 90 degree twist in drive and driven pulleys? Say drive is vert. and driven is horizontal. Dixon |
Timing/ power trans. belt
Dixon wrote:
I have seen semi-high horse power aplications of timing belts, even a 350 v-8 chev/harley. My question is, has anyone ever seen a timing belt, say 1 1/4" wide, three hundred h.p. that uses a 90 degree twist in drive and driven pulleys? Say drive is vert. and driven is horizontal. Dixon My lathe (Clausing) uses a timing belt for the final spindle drive, this is a relatively low horsepower application and uses an H150 series belt (1/2 inch pitch x 1-1/2 wide). Somewhere, either in a catalog or on the net, I saw a belt application chart and 300 hp would have been off the scale for this size belt, let alone one twisted. You might, maybe, get by with the twist if the pulleys were far enough apart, old time overhead shafting drives were sometimes arranged this way. Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- |
Timing/ power trans. belt
Belt life is terrible. The outside edges have a longer path than center,
results in the center not being properly tensioned. You might be able to run the setup with a much reduced HP rating but I doubt you would find it acceptable. Dixon wrote: I have seen semi-high horse power aplications of timing belts, even a 350 v-8 chev/harley. My question is, has anyone ever seen a timing belt, say 1 1/4" wide, three hundred h.p. that uses a 90 degree twist in drive and driven pulleys? Say drive is vert. and driven is horizontal. Dixon |
Timing/ power trans. belt
"Paul" wrote: (clip) You might, maybe, get by with the twist if the pulleys were far enough apart, old time overhead shafting drives were sometimes arranged this way. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Also I recall seeing belt driven farm equipment where the belt is deliberately twisted. But these drives didn't have teeth. Seems to me that the twist might make the teeth come into engagement funny, and increase wear. |
Timing/ power trans. belt
"RoyJ" wrote in message ... Belt life is terrible. The outside edges have a longer path than center, results in the center not being properly tensioned. You might be able to run the setup with a much reduced HP rating but I doubt you would find it acceptable. Dixon wrote: I have seen semi-high horse power aplications of timing belts, even a 350 v-8 chev/harley. My question is, has anyone ever seen a timing belt, say 1 1/4" wide, three hundred h.p. that uses a 90 degree twist in drive and driven pulleys? Say drive is vert. and driven is horizontal. Dixon Monday I'll try to find a belt manufacturer tech person. The project I'm considering is a 300 hp V-6 merc outboard in a sea doo, driven by propellors instead of jet drive. Keeping the motor vertical as designed by mercury eliminates a lot of problems. If you turn a water cooled motor in any other direction, you have to deal with venting areas of trapped air in the cooling system. There were even some three cyl. merc. outboards that were burning the top cyl. until a small vent hole was put in on the very top of the water jacket to get rid of the trapped air pocket. The water would circulate fine, but the air would have no way out, creating a hot spot.With fuel inj. any position works ok in that area. Dixon |
Timing/ power trans. belt
Dixon wrote:
"RoyJ" wrote in message ... Belt life is terrible. The outside edges have a longer path than center, results in the center not being properly tensioned. You might be able to run the setup with a much reduced HP rating but I doubt you would find it acceptable. Dixon wrote: I have seen semi-high horse power aplications of timing belts, even a 350 v-8 chev/harley. My question is, has anyone ever seen a timing belt, say 1 1/4" wide, three hundred h.p. that uses a 90 degree twist in drive and driven pulleys? Say drive is vert. and driven is horizontal. Dixon Monday I'll try to find a belt manufacturer tech person. The project I'm considering is a 300 hp V-6 merc outboard in a sea doo, driven by propellors instead of jet drive. Keeping the motor vertical as designed by mercury eliminates a lot of problems. If you turn a water cooled motor in any other direction, you have to deal with venting areas of trapped air in the cooling system. There were even some three cyl. merc. outboards that were burning the top cyl. until a small vent hole was put in on the very top of the water jacket to get rid of the trapped air pocket. The water would circulate fine, but the air would have no way out, creating a hot spot.With fuel inj. any position works ok in that area. Dixon I'll have the shore-based artillery ready when you come this way... /mark |
Timing/ power trans. belt
Mark F wrote:
I'll have the shore-based artillery ready when you come this way... /mark At least you'll get lots of shots off before they get out of range. Lot's of happy noise covering up the sonic crack of the near misses. Maybe seed the area with lengths of camo floating rope. Let em walk back. Cheers Trevor Jones |
Timing/ power trans. belt
Dixon wrote:
I have seen semi-high horse power aplications of timing belts, even a 350 v-8 chev/harley. My question is, has anyone ever seen a timing belt, say 1 1/4" wide, three hundred h.p. that uses a 90 degree twist in drive and driven pulleys? Say drive is vert. and driven is horizontal. Dixon You could look through some of the tech docs here http://www.contitech.de/pages/produk...ustrie_en.html If you go to the belt type page you should be able to download technical data for the belt type. I have used the Poly V belt design data before and it seemed very comprehensive. From their details the largest section can go upto 400kW and is capable of the drive type you want. Whether in practice it can be made to work may depend on other factor such as available space. |
Timing/ power trans. belt
"Mark F" wrote in message news:JAn1j.21618$PE.2768@pd7urf1no... Dixon wrote: Monday I'll try to find a belt manufacturer tech person. The project I'm considering is a 300 hp V-6 merc outboard in a sea doo I'll have the shore-based artillery ready when you come this way... /mark Make sure the piranhas are hungry... -Carl -- The future isn't what it used to be. |
Timing/ power trans. belt
"Carl Byrns" wrote in message news:Z2H1j.6022$XT.578@trnddc01... "Mark F" wrote in message The project I'm considering is a 300 hp V-6 merc outboard in a sea doo I'll have the shore-based artillery ready when you come this way... /mark Make sure the piranhas are hungry... -Carl Don't stereotpye me with the idiots that make all that racket on your lake visits or fishing trips on jet-skis. This will be a sanctioned race mach. for drag racing. I currently have a V-6 Mercury outboard hydroplane that runs 140 mph in eight seconds. Dixon |
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