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Knight chess-piece "plan"?
Hey All,
Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. So far, my best thought is to turn a 90 cone in the end of the upright, mill through it to leave enough material to create two "ears", poke a hole on a downward angle thru the upright just below the "ears", jam in a shortish piece of round with the lower end of that rounded off to make the "mouth" and the upper end on the opposite side of the upright cut at angle and knurled to look like a stylized "mane". Plan is to make 1/2 the set from brass, and the opposition from soft stainless, or maybe hard aluminum. Probably the latter, since I have lots of that. I've looked on the web for some made from common hardware like nuts & bolts, but never saw anything that appealed to me. But I'm open to all suggestions. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. cross posted to: modeleng-list |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:18:29 -0500, Brian Lawson
wrote: Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. So far, my best thought is to turn a 90 cone in the end of the upright, mill through it to leave enough material to create two "ears", poke a hole on a downward angle thru the upright just below the "ears", jam in a shortish piece of round with the lower end of that rounded off to make the "mouth" and the upper end on the opposite side of the upright cut at angle and knurled to look like a stylized "mane". Plan is to make 1/2 the set from brass, and the opposition from soft stainless, or maybe hard aluminum. Probably the latter, since I have lots of that. I've looked on the web for some made from common hardware like nuts & bolts, but never saw anything that appealed to me. But I'm open to all suggestions. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. cross posted to: modeleng-list How about threading the top of your common base, clip one ear off a wing-nut in a size you like and then thread it on top of the base upside down (shrug). -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:43:51 -0500, Leon Fisk
wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:18:29 -0500, Brian Lawson wrote: Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. So far, my best thought is to turn a 90 cone in the end of the upright, mill through it to leave enough material to create two "ears", poke a hole on a downward angle thru the upright just below the "ears", jam in a shortish piece of round with the lower end of that rounded off to make the "mouth" and the upper end on the opposite side of the upright cut at angle and knurled to look like a stylized "mane". Plan is to make 1/2 the set from brass, and the opposition from soft stainless, or maybe hard aluminum. Probably the latter, since I have lots of that. I've looked on the web for some made from common hardware like nuts & bolts, but never saw anything that appealed to me. But I'm open to all suggestions. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. cross posted to: modeleng-list How about threading the top of your common base, clip one ear off a wing-nut in a size you like and then thread it on top of the base upside down (shrug). ========= Send me a good email and I will send plan in pdf format with a generic cnc lathe program. Let me know if you want the other pieces also. Unka' George [George McDuffee] ============ Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814. |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
Brian Lawson wrote:
Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. When I think of knights, I think of the only piece that is not round in section, could you turn it to the profile of the silhouette of the face of the horse, then slab off the two sides with a band saw, trim away the back for the mane, and you might be there... Or you could cut it out of a piece of flatstock of appropriate thickness, and solder/weld it to a turned base that matches the other capital pieces. Make them last and use the nicest two bases in your oops pile... Stuart |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
Brian -
I sent you an e-mail - easy to do - let me know. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Brian Lawson wrote: Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. So far, my best thought is to turn a 90 cone in the end of the upright, mill through it to leave enough material to create two "ears", poke a hole on a downward angle thru the upright just below the "ears", jam in a shortish piece of round with the lower end of that rounded off to make the "mouth" and the upper end on the opposite side of the upright cut at angle and knurled to look like a stylized "mane". Plan is to make 1/2 the set from brass, and the opposition from soft stainless, or maybe hard aluminum. Probably the latter, since I have lots of that. I've looked on the web for some made from common hardware like nuts & bolts, but never saw anything that appealed to me. But I'm open to all suggestions. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. cross posted to: modeleng-list ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
Hey Leon,
I though of something very similar, but at the moment I'm leaning towards a "turned" set, rather than a nuts&bolts style. My thought was to use one "wing" up of a pressed metal style so it would look like ears, and one of cast style down. Take care. Thanks again. Brian Lawson. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:43:51 -0500, Leon Fisk wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:18:29 -0500, Brian Lawson wrote: Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. So far, my best thought is to turn a 90 cone in the end of the upright, mill through it to leave enough material to create two "ears", poke a hole on a downward angle thru the upright just below the "ears", jam in a shortish piece of round with the lower end of that rounded off to make the "mouth" and the upper end on the opposite side of the upright cut at angle and knurled to look like a stylized "mane". Plan is to make 1/2 the set from brass, and the opposition from soft stainless, or maybe hard aluminum. Probably the latter, since I have lots of that. I've looked on the web for some made from common hardware like nuts & bolts, but never saw anything that appealed to me. But I'm open to all suggestions. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. cross posted to: modeleng-list How about threading the top of your common base, clip one ear off a wing-nut in a size you like and then thread it on top of the base upside down (shrug). |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
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Knight chess-piece "plan"?
Hey Stuart,
Great suggestion, similar to Tony Finns's but simpler. As I have since written, I'm happy for ALL these suggestions, but I'm think I'm leaning towards an all turned set. Still, these are some good machining tips showing up here! Take care. Brian Lawson, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:12:02 -0500, Stuart Wheaton wrote: Brian Lawson wrote: Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. When I think of knights, I think of the only piece that is not round in section, could you turn it to the profile of the silhouette of the face of the horse, then slab off the two sides with a band saw, trim away the back for the mane, and you might be there... Or you could cut it out of a piece of flatstock of appropriate thickness, and solder/weld it to a turned base that matches the other capital pieces. Make them last and use the nicest two bases in your oops pile... Stuart |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
Hey Sam,
Now, I really like that one!! Simple, pleasing, and doable for me. Makes the Top 10 so far. Thank you. Take care, Brian Lawson. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:34:47 -0500, "Sam Soltan" samsoltan_48323atyahoodotcom wrote: try these! "F. George McDuffee" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:43:51 -0500, Leon Fisk wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:18:29 -0500, Brian Lawson wrote: Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. So far, my best thought is to turn a 90 cone in the end of the upright, mill through it to leave enough material to create two "ears", poke a hole on a downward angle thru the upright just below the "ears", jam in a shortish piece of round with the lower end of that rounded off to make the "mouth" and the upper end on the opposite side of the upright cut at angle and knurled to look like a stylized "mane". Plan is to make 1/2 the set from brass, and the opposition from soft stainless, or maybe hard aluminum. Probably the latter, since I have lots of that. I've looked on the web for some made from common hardware like nuts & bolts, but never saw anything that appealed to me. But I'm open to all suggestions. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. cross posted to: modeleng-list How about threading the top of your common base, clip one ear off a wing-nut in a size you like and then thread it on top of the base upside down (shrug). ========= Send me a good email and I will send plan in pdf format with a generic cnc lathe program. Let me know if you want the other pieces also. Unka' George [George McDuffee] ============ Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814. |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
On Nov 14, 12:18 pm, Brian Lawson wrote:
Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. So far, my best thought is to turn a 90 cone in the end of the upright, mill through it to leave enough material to create two "ears", poke a hole on a downward angle thru the upright just below the "ears", jam in a shortish piece of round with the lower end of that rounded off to make the "mouth" and the upper end on the opposite side of the upright cut at angle and knurled to look like a stylized "mane". Plan is to make 1/2 the set from brass, and the opposition from soft stainless, or maybe hard aluminum. Probably the latter, since I have lots of that. I've looked on the web for some made from common hardware like nuts & bolts, but never saw anything that appealed to me. But I'm open to all suggestions. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. cross posted to: modeleng-list I've been doing this via trial and error using semi scrap 3/4" Brass. and just like you I'm producing it with a lathe or hand tools. (when i'm not building my shop so far the best i've come up with is to start with a bar and cut in at approx 30 degrees this will form the top of the peice. like a horse head pointing slightly downwards a little further down on the low side of the peice i cut a groovethat will eventually become the horses neck the part jutting out becomes a stylized nose. from there i take the top of the peice and using an endmill mill down the "sides of the peice at 90 degrees to the earlier cutsthis reduces the beice form circular and brings out the head form. I havent made a pretty one yet using this method but its a work in progress i whittle away at. I took my rough ones in to a few people and asked them what chess peoce this looked like and was pleased to hear that the answers were all "Knight" or "Horse" or "i have no idea i dont play chess" i dont know how clear my explanation is or if that helps but i'm looking at it the same was as you. if i can make a knight i can make a chess set since ALL the others have an axis of rotatio to them |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
Hey Brent,
I think I follow you OK. Pretty much like what I was planning on doing, and along the lines of what Sam Soltan sent. Did you see that set? Thanks for the hints too. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:33:45 -0800 (PST), Brent wrote: On Nov 14, 12:18 pm, Brian Lawson wrote: Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. So far, my best thought is to turn a 90 cone in the end of the upright, mill through it to leave enough material to create two "ears", poke a hole on a downward angle thru the upright just below the "ears", jam in a shortish piece of round with the lower end of that rounded off to make the "mouth" and the upper end on the opposite side of the upright cut at angle and knurled to look like a stylized "mane". Plan is to make 1/2 the set from brass, and the opposition from soft stainless, or maybe hard aluminum. Probably the latter, since I have lots of that. I've looked on the web for some made from common hardware like nuts & bolts, but never saw anything that appealed to me. But I'm open to all suggestions. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. cross posted to: modeleng-list I've been doing this via trial and error using semi scrap 3/4" Brass. and just like you I'm producing it with a lathe or hand tools. (when i'm not building my shop so far the best i've come up with is to start with a bar and cut in at approx 30 degrees this will form the top of the peice. like a horse head pointing slightly downwards a little further down on the low side of the peice i cut a groovethat will eventually become the horses neck the part jutting out becomes a stylized nose. from there i take the top of the peice and using an endmill mill down the "sides of the peice at 90 degrees to the earlier cutsthis reduces the beice form circular and brings out the head form. I havent made a pretty one yet using this method but its a work in progress i whittle away at. I took my rough ones in to a few people and asked them what chess peoce this looked like and was pleased to hear that the answers were all "Knight" or "Horse" or "i have no idea i dont play chess" i dont know how clear my explanation is or if that helps but i'm looking at it the same was as you. if i can make a knight i can make a chess set since ALL the others have an axis of rotatio to them |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
On Nov 15, 12:24 pm, Brian Lawson wrote:
Hey Brent, I think I follow you OK. Pretty much like what I was planning on doing, and along the lines of what Sam Soltan sent. Did you see that set? Thanks for the hints too. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:33:45 -0800 (PST), Brent wrote: On Nov 14, 12:18 pm, Brian Lawson wrote: Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. So far, my best thought is to turn a 90 cone in the end of the upright, mill through it to leave enough material to create two "ears", poke a hole on a downward angle thru the upright just below the "ears", jam in a shortish piece of round with the lower end of that rounded off to make the "mouth" and the upper end on the opposite side of the upright cut at angle and knurled to look like a stylized "mane". Plan is to make 1/2 the set from brass, and the opposition from soft stainless, or maybe hard aluminum. Probably the latter, since I have lots of that. I've looked on the web for some made from common hardware like nuts & bolts, but never saw anything that appealed to me. But I'm open to all suggestions. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. cross posted to: modeleng-list I've been doing this via trial and error using semi scrap 3/4" Brass. and just like you I'm producing it with a lathe or hand tools. (when i'm not building my shop so far the best i've come up with is to start with a bar and cut in at approx 30 degrees this will form the top of the peice. like a horse head pointing slightly downwards a little further down on the low side of the peice i cut a groovethat will eventually become the horses neck the part jutting out becomes a stylized nose. from there i take the top of the peice and using an endmill mill down the "sides of the peice at 90 degrees to the earlier cutsthis reduces the beice form circular and brings out the head form. I havent made a pretty one yet using this method but its a work in progress i whittle away at. I took my rough ones in to a few people and asked them what chess peoce this looked like and was pleased to hear that the answers were all "Knight" or "Horse" or "i have no idea i dont play chess" i dont know how clear my explanation is or if that helps but i'm looking at it the same was as you. if i can make a knight i can make a chess set since ALL the others have an axis of rotatio to them I didnt see the Sam Soltant note (Didnt make it to google) but its always great to see other peoples ideas on it too. In my case because i have the brass in about 18" lengths that Lee valley sells surplus I'm going to do both sets in it then do a patina or some type of process to make the "Black" side and plus brass is a nice student metal for someon whose not great on a lathe. I'll mess up the peice long before i hurt the lathe Brent Ottawa Ontario |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
the usual way to do this (on a wood lathe) is to imagine the surface made by
rotating the horse head - you create that shape (which looks kinda like a weird torus) and then slice through it to get two heads, which you affix to a traditionally turned base. "Brent" wrote in message ... On Nov 14, 12:18 pm, Brian Lawson wrote: Hey All, Anybody got a suggestion or sample/drawing/pix of a Knight chess-piece that I can make by turning and minor milling? I don't want a "3-D horse head impression" or casting, or even a "real-looking" (a la Staunton), but something I can make with MY shop tools. I think I'm OK on the other 5 pieces, but can't figure out how to "create" a definitive knight. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Knight chess-piece "plan"?
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:59:40 +1100, you wrote:
I made a set a long time ago (30+ yrs) from wood, with the knights done with no actual carving......a base turned same as the other major opiece bases, the top half all simple curved profiles and sawn-off angular planes, excepting only the valley between the ears.........which I could imagine being milled with a flycutter at the appropriate angles. Oh, yes, and a peg on the body fitted a socket in the base. The overall effect was of a stylized-staunton type knight, but no concave surfaces IIRC. I dont see why it couldnt be done in metal..........again IIRC I mostly used a bandsaw on the knight. Received many favourable comments on the set, so I could dig out and sned you a photo of the knight if you are inteested. Michael Belfer Hey Michael, Thank you for doing so. Looks good!! Brian Lawson. |
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