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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
No Weld Grinder/Sander Plans (NWGS)
By Tracy Mickley Midwest Knifemakers Supply, LLC www.midwestknifemakers.com These printed plans are for a 2 x 72 belt grinder or sander. The construction requires no welding, no machining, no lathe work, no precision thread tapping, no special tools. These are paper plans and will be mailed to you via US First Class Mail upon purchase. Just to be sure, this is not for an actual grinder or any part of grinder. This listing is for plans that you can use to construct your own grinder/sander using your materials. This grinder design uses tool arms to change from a contact wheel to a flat platen to a small wheel to slack belt attachment in seconds. If you have a KMG grinder from Beaumont Metals already, you can use the tools from that grinder in your NWGS. Features: No Welding needed! No Lathe needed! No Machining or Mill work needed! 15 pages of clear CAD drawings with measurements and materials list on each drawing. Master materials list. Quick change tool arms allow multiple attachments to be changed in seconds. Plans include tool arms for: Flat Platen, Tool Table Rest, Slack Belt, Contact Wheel. Very low cost materials used in the construction. Rock solid and vibration free. Tool Table Rest design allows tool rest to be used with any attachment. Flexible design allows different belt lengths to be used besides 2 x 72. No precision thread tapping required. Design is a no weld design but the grinder can easily be welded if you desire. Flexible, robust design allows you to make changes to customize your grinder/sander to your own needs. If you make tapered tangs on your knives or have wanted to, simply stretch the plans and make a 15 flat platen with ease. Can use KMG tool bar arms. Hundreds of hours of R&D and multiple proto-type testing went into the design of this very capable grinder/sander. Web support with additional pictures and ideas for other attachments via www.midwestkms.com Suitable for use in grinding metal and sanding wood. In case you are wondering, when you are working with metal, the machine is called a grinder, when you are working with wood, the machine is called a sander. 2x72 abrasive belts are one of the most common and competitively priced sizes of belts. Compare prices on this size belt to any other. If you are using a smaller size grinder/sander. The money you save using 2 x 72 belts will pay for this machine in no time flat. 2 x 72 belts have more types of belts available for them than any other size belt. Its no wonder that knife makers and custom wood workers have settled on this size of grinder/sander. The printed assembly manual contains: 15 pages of detailed CAD drawings with measurements and materials lists on each drawing. You could easily build the entire NWGS from these CAD drawings. In addition to the CAD drawings, there is a 28 page construction manual with: Clear BW pictures of various parts of the grinder for visual reference during construction. Nothing tells it better than a picture! 5 pages of assistance in selecting the proper motor for your grinder. Note: We do not provide wiring diagrams or support for hooking up or wiring your motors. There are simply too many variations to do that. If you dont know how to wire a motor, buy it from a reputable motor shop and they will show you in about 5 minutes how to wire it up. 3 pages of information on abrasives including a conversion chart for the different technical standards of abrasives. 2 pages of supply sources every part has multiple supplier sources but nearly every single part can be purchased locally. Tools Required: A metal band saw is very helpful as is a drill press. If you dont have a band saw, you can get the heavier material cut to size for a nominal charge (usually around $2 to $3 a cut after the first cut) from the metal supplier. A hand hack saw can handle most of the cuts. If you dont have a drill press, you can use a variable speed hand drill. A carpenters square. A tape measure, a scribe point, assorted drill bits (actually just 4 drill bits 1/8, 5/16, 3/8 and Β½), a 3/8-16 tap and tap wrench. A Unibit’ (step drill bit) works exceptionally well in this project as a supplement to your regular drill bits or even in place of them. Cutting/tapping lubricant (oil will work but cutting lubricant works better). A rotary tool such as a Dremmel’ tool (or hand file to) cut 2ea 1 x 3/16 key way slots. Hand wrench or adjustable wrenches to tighten bolts. You can see the tools required are very modest and simple. the plans are available at: www.midwestknifemakers.com |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Weldingrequired
Paul wrote:
wrote: These printed plans are for a 2 x 72 belt grinder or sander. The construction requires no welding, no machining, no lathe work, no precision thread tapping, no special tools. What fun is that? Indeed! Even having plans takes away most of the fun. Bob |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
On Oct 7, 9:20 am, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Paul wrote: wrote: These printed plans are for a 2" x 72" belt grinder or sander. The construction requires no welding, no machining, no lathe work, no precision thread tapping, no special tools. What fun is that? Indeed! Even having plans takes away most of the fun. Bob I absolutely understand that. I am self taught and will weld stuff in mig, tig, oxy/acet until I drop - just for fun. I also have and use a small mill and lathe. The problem is most people don't have the equipment or the knowledge to weld. If some one is far enough along that the posses all those skills, they probably don't need plans. |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:20:28 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Bob
Engelhardt quickly quoth: Paul wrote: SPAMMED: These printed plans are for a 2 x 72 belt grinder or sander. The construction requires no welding, no machining, no lathe work, no precision thread tapping, no special tools. What fun is that? Indeed! Even having plans takes away most of the fun. Bob Right. REAL MEN don't need plans. parry, riposte -- Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire is that which he exercises over himself. -- Elie Wiesel |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:54:50 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:20:28 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Bob Engelhardt quickly quoth: Paul wrote: SPAMMED: These printed plans are for a 2 x 72 belt grinder or sander. The construction requires no welding, no machining, no lathe work, no precision thread tapping, no special tools. What fun is that? Indeed! Even having plans takes away most of the fun. Bob Right. REAL MEN don't need plans. parry, riposte Or manuals. balestra, appel Gunner |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
Gunner Asch wrote:
Right. REAL MEN don't need plans. parry, riposte Or manuals. Real men have manuals, they just don't read them. W |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
On Oct 8, 1:39 pm, Wes wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote: Right. REAL MEN don't need plans. parry, riposte Or manuals. Real men have manuals, they just don't read them. W Real men have manuals, they just don't read them. Yes they do...but just in the bathroom. TMT |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
On Oct 7, 1:25Β*am, wrote:
No Weld Grinder/Sander Plans (NWGS) By Tracy Mickley Β* Β*Midwest Knifemakers Supply, LLC Β* Β*www.midwestknifemakers.com These printed plans are for a 2 x 72 belt grinder or sander. The construction requires no welding, no machining, no lathe work, no precision thread tapping, no special tools. These are paper plans and will be mailed to you via US First Class Mail upon purchase. Just to be sure, this is not for an actual grinder or any part of grinder. This listing is for plans that you can use to construct your own grinder/sander using your materials. This grinder design uses tool arms to change from a contact wheel to a flat platen to a small wheel to slack belt attachment in seconds. If you have a KMG grinder from Beaumont Metals already, you can use the tools from that grinder in your NWGS. Features: No Welding needed! No Lathe needed! No Machining or Mill work needed! 15 pages of clear CAD drawings with measurements and materials list on each drawing. Master materials list. Quick change tool arms allow multiple attachments to be changed in seconds. Plans include tool arms for: Flat Platen, Tool Table Rest, Slack Belt, Contact Wheel. Very low cost materials used in the construction. Rock solid and vibration free. Tool Table Rest design allows tool rest to be used with any attachment. Flexible design allows different belt lengths to be used besides 2 x 72. No precision thread tapping required. Design is a no weld design but the grinder can easily be welded if you desire. Flexible, robust design allows you to make changes to customize your grinder/sander to your own needs. If you make tapered tangs on your knives or have wanted to, simply stretch the plans and make a 15 flat platen with ease. Can use KMG tool bar arms. Hundreds of hours of R&D and multiple proto-type testing went into the design of this very capable grinder/sander. Web support with additional pictures and ideas for other attachments viawww.midwestkms.com Suitable for use in grinding metal and sanding wood. In case you are wondering, when you are working with metal, the machine is called a grinder, when you are working with wood, the machine is called a sander. 2x72 abrasive belts are one of the most common and competitively priced sizes of belts. Compare prices on this size belt to any other. If you are using a smaller size grinder/sander. The money you save using 2 x 72 belts will pay for this machine in no time flat. 2 x 72 belts have more types of belts available for them than any other size belt. Its no wonder that knife makers and custom wood workers have settled on this size of grinder/sander. The printed assembly manual contains: 15 pages of detailed CAD drawings with measurements and materials lists on each drawing. You could easily build the entire NWGS from these CAD drawings. In addition to the CAD drawings, there is a 28 page construction manual with: Clear BW pictures of various parts of the grinder for visual reference during construction. Nothing tells it better than a picture! 5 pages of assistance in selecting the proper motor for your grinder. Note: We do not provide wiring diagrams or support for hooking up or wiring your motors. There are simply too many variations to do that. If you dont know how to wire a motor, buy it from a reputable motor shop and they will show you in about 5 minutes how to wire it up. 3 pages of information on abrasives including a conversion chart for the different technical standards of abrasives. 2 pages of supply sources every part has multiple supplier sources but nearly every single part can be purchased locally. Tools Required: Β*A metal band saw is very helpful as is a drill press. If you dont have a band saw, you can get the heavier material cut to size for a nominal charge (usually around $2 to $3 a cut after the first cut) from the metal supplier. A hand hack saw can handle most of the cuts. If you dont have a drill press, you can use a variable speed hand drill. Β*A carpenters square. A tape measure, a scribe point, assorted drill bits (actually just 4 drill bits 1/8, 5/16, 3/8 and Β½), a 3/8-16 tap and tap wrench. A Unibit’ (step drill bit) works exceptionally well in this project as a supplement to your regular drill bits or even in place of them. Cutting/tapping lubricant (oil will work but cutting lubricant works better). A rotary tool such as a Dremmel’ tool (or hand file to) cut 2ea 1 x 3/16 key way slots. Hand wrench or adjustable wrenches to tighten bolts. Β*You can see the tools required are very modest and simple. the plans are available at:www.midwestknifemakers.com What provision is there for dust collection/dust control? TMT |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
On Oct 7, 1:25Β*am, wrote:
No Weld Grinder/Sander Plans (NWGS) By Tracy Mickley Β* Β*Midwest Knifemakers Supply, LLC Β* Β*www.midwestknifemakers.com These printed plans are for a 2 x 72 belt grinder or sander. The construction requires no welding, no machining, no lathe work, no precision thread tapping, no special tools. These are paper plans and will be mailed to you via US First Class Mail upon purchase. Just to be sure, this is not for an actual grinder or any part of grinder. This listing is for plans that you can use to construct your own grinder/sander using your materials. This grinder design uses tool arms to change from a contact wheel to a flat platen to a small wheel to slack belt attachment in seconds. If you have a KMG grinder from Beaumont Metals already, you can use the tools from that grinder in your NWGS. Features: No Welding needed! No Lathe needed! No Machining or Mill work needed! 15 pages of clear CAD drawings with measurements and materials list on each drawing. Master materials list. Quick change tool arms allow multiple attachments to be changed in seconds. Plans include tool arms for: Flat Platen, Tool Table Rest, Slack Belt, Contact Wheel. Very low cost materials used in the construction. Rock solid and vibration free. Tool Table Rest design allows tool rest to be used with any attachment. Flexible design allows different belt lengths to be used besides 2 x 72. No precision thread tapping required. Design is a no weld design but the grinder can easily be welded if you desire. Flexible, robust design allows you to make changes to customize your grinder/sander to your own needs. If you make tapered tangs on your knives or have wanted to, simply stretch the plans and make a 15 flat platen with ease. Can use KMG tool bar arms. Hundreds of hours of R&D and multiple proto-type testing went into the design of this very capable grinder/sander. Web support with additional pictures and ideas for other attachments viawww.midwestkms.com Suitable for use in grinding metal and sanding wood. In case you are wondering, when you are working with metal, the machine is called a grinder, when you are working with wood, the machine is called a sander. 2x72 abrasive belts are one of the most common and competitively priced sizes of belts. Compare prices on this size belt to any other. If you are using a smaller size grinder/sander. The money you save using 2 x 72 belts will pay for this machine in no time flat. 2 x 72 belts have more types of belts available for them than any other size belt. Its no wonder that knife makers and custom wood workers have settled on this size of grinder/sander. The printed assembly manual contains: 15 pages of detailed CAD drawings with measurements and materials lists on each drawing. You could easily build the entire NWGS from these CAD drawings. In addition to the CAD drawings, there is a 28 page construction manual with: Clear BW pictures of various parts of the grinder for visual reference during construction. Nothing tells it better than a picture! 5 pages of assistance in selecting the proper motor for your grinder. Note: We do not provide wiring diagrams or support for hooking up or wiring your motors. There are simply too many variations to do that. If you dont know how to wire a motor, buy it from a reputable motor shop and they will show you in about 5 minutes how to wire it up. 3 pages of information on abrasives including a conversion chart for the different technical standards of abrasives. 2 pages of supply sources every part has multiple supplier sources but nearly every single part can be purchased locally. Tools Required: Β*A metal band saw is very helpful as is a drill press. If you dont have a band saw, you can get the heavier material cut to size for a nominal charge (usually around $2 to $3 a cut after the first cut) from the metal supplier. A hand hack saw can handle most of the cuts. If you dont have a drill press, you can use a variable speed hand drill. Β*A carpenters square. A tape measure, a scribe point, assorted drill bits (actually just 4 drill bits 1/8, 5/16, 3/8 and Β½), a 3/8-16 tap and tap wrench. A Unibit’ (step drill bit) works exceptionally well in this project as a supplement to your regular drill bits or even in place of them. Cutting/tapping lubricant (oil will work but cutting lubricant works better). A rotary tool such as a Dremmel’ tool (or hand file to) cut 2ea 1 x 3/16 key way slots. Hand wrench or adjustable wrenches to tighten bolts. Β*You can see the tools required are very modest and simple. the plans are available at:www.midwestknifemakers.com While on the subject of do it yourself belt sanders, does anyone have a favorite version? While I tend to buy older American machines, a belt sander is something that is worthwhile building for the HSM shop. TMT |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
According to Wes :
Gunner Asch wrote: Right. REAL MEN don't need plans. parry, riposte Or manuals. Real men have manuals, they just don't read them. They *correct* them. :-) Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote on Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:01:42 -0400 in rec.crafts.metalworking : pyotr filipivich wrote: You need plans (and manuals). You don't have to follow them, but unless you have them, you hive chaos. With them, you are able to demonstrate flexibility, initiative, and adaptability. Plus you can always read the manual afterwards, waiting for the service tech, so you can tell him exactly what went wrong. Don't wait for him to figure it out, you've just read the manual! Real men WRITE the manuals. Dictate the manuals. They're usually too busy doing stuff to sit down and write it up. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich "Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. " Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.) |
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned "Michael A. Terrell" wrote on Mon, 08 Oct Real men WRITE the manuals. Dictate the manuals. They're usually too busy doing stuff to sit down and write it up. Not where I worked. They tried that a couple times, but the typing drones kept changing "All those wrong words". The engineer that designed the piece of equipment HAD to write his own manuals. A lot of the work writing the manuals can be copied and pasted from the manufacturing and test documentation. Preliminary manuals were written while the first prototypes were being built, and fine tuned during the first production run. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Welding required
On Oct 8, 3:56Β*pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Oct 7, 1:25Β*am, wrote: No Weld Grinder/Sander Plans (NWGS) By Tracy Mickley Β* Β*Midwest Knifemakers Supply, LLC Β* Β*www.midwestknifemakers.com These printed plans are for a 2 x 72 belt grinder or sander. The construction requires no welding, no machining, no lathe work, no precision thread tapping, no special tools. These are paper plans and will be mailed to you via US First Class Mail upon purchase. Just to be sure, this is not for an actual grinder or any part of grinder. This listing is for plans that you can use to construct your own grinder/sander using your materials. This grinder design uses tool arms to change from a contact wheel to a flat platen to a small wheel to slack belt attachment in seconds. If you have a KMG grinder from Beaumont Metals already, you can use the tools from that grinder in your NWGS. Features: No Welding needed! No Lathe needed! No Machining or Mill work needed! 15 pages of clear CAD drawings with measurements and materials list on each drawing. Master materials list. Quick change tool arms allow multiple attachments to be changed in seconds. Plans include tool arms for: Flat Platen, Tool Table Rest, Slack Belt, Contact Wheel. Very low cost materials used in the construction. Rock solid and vibration free. Tool Table Rest design allows tool rest to be used with any attachment. Flexible design allows different belt lengths to be used besides 2 x 72. No precision thread tapping required. Design is a no weld design but the grinder can easily be welded if you desire. Flexible, robust design allows you to make changes to customize your grinder/sander to your own needs. If you make tapered tangs on your knives or have wanted to, simply stretch the plans and make a 15 flat platen with ease. Can use KMG tool bar arms. Hundreds of hours of R&D and multiple proto-type testing went into the design of this very capable grinder/sander. Web support with additional pictures and ideas for other attachments viawww.midwestkms.com Suitable for use in grinding metal and sanding wood. In case you are wondering, when you are working with metal, the machine is called a grinder, when you are working with wood, the machine is called a sander. 2x72 abrasive belts are one of the most common and competitively priced sizes of belts. Compare prices on this size belt to any other. If you are using a smaller size grinder/sander. The money you save using 2 x 72 belts will pay for this machine in no time flat. 2 x 72 belts have more types of belts available for them than any other size belt. Its no wonder that knife makers and custom wood workers have settled on this size of grinder/sander. The printed assembly manual contains: 15 pages of detailed CAD drawings with measurements and materials lists on each drawing. You could easily build the entire NWGS from these CAD drawings. In addition to the CAD drawings, there is a 28 page construction manual with: Clear BW pictures of various parts of the grinder for visual reference during construction. Nothing tells it better than a picture! 5 pages of assistance in selecting the proper motor for your grinder. Note: We do not provide wiring diagrams or support for hooking up or wiring your motors. There are simply too many variations to do that. If you dont know how to wire a motor, buy it from a reputable motor shop and they will show you in about 5 minutes how to wire it up. 3 pages of information on abrasives including a conversion chart for the different technical standards of abrasives. 2 pages of supply sources every part has multiple supplier sources but nearly every single part can be purchased locally. Tools Required: Β*A metal band saw is very helpful as is a drill press. If you dont have a band saw, you can get the heavier material cut to size for a nominal charge (usually around $2 to $3 a cut after the first cut) from the metal supplier. A hand hack saw can handle most of the cuts. If you dont have a drill press, you can use a variable speed hand drill. Β*A carpenters square. A tape measure, a scribe point, assorted drill bits (actually just 4 drill bits 1/8, 5/16, 3/8 and Β½), a 3/8-16 tap and tap wrench. A Unibit’ (step drill bit) works exceptionally well in this project as a supplement to your regular drill bits or even in place of them. Cutting/tapping lubricant (oil will work but cutting lubricant works better). A rotary tool such as a Dremmel’ tool (or hand file to) cut 2ea 1 x 3/16 key way slots. Hand wrench or adjustable wrenches to tighten bolts. Β*You can see the tools required are very modest and simple. the plans are available at:www.midwestknifemakers.com While on the subject of do it yourself belt sanders, does anyone have a favorite version? While I tend to buy older American machines, a belt sander is something that is worthwhile building for the HSM shop. TMT- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So no one has BUILT a belt sander? Hard to believe...I thought this was rec.crafts.metalworking. TMT |
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Plans for 2"x72" Knife Grinder/Sander Released for sale No Weldingrequired
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
So no one has BUILT a belt sander? Hard to believe...I thought this was rec.crafts.metalworking. Google groups is your friend. Here's one to get you started: http://tinyurl.com/29h2mt Bob |
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