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pogo[_2_] August 12th 07 12:32 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
Would liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ? Any reason not to
use it ?
I will mostly be cutting/tapping aluminum.
Thanks !



Gerry[_2_] August 12th 07 12:40 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
On Aug 11, 6:32 pm, "pogo" wrote:
Would liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ? Any reason not to
use it ?
I will mostly be cutting/tapping aluminum.
Thanks !


I don't see why not. I routinely use WD40 for working aluminum. Got
tierd of the smell of kerosine


Richard J Kinch August 12th 07 04:57 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
pogo writes:

Would liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ? Any reason
not to use it ?
I will mostly be cutting/tapping aluminum.


Liquid Wrench is nothing but kerosene in a high-priced can for suckers.

So, yes.

pogo[_2_] August 12th 07 05:53 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message
. ..
pogo writes:

Would liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ? Any reason
not to use it ?
I will mostly be cutting/tapping aluminum.


Liquid Wrench is nothing but kerosene in a high-priced can for suckers.

So, yes.


Well, now that I know that I think I'll take my can back to Sears tomorrow.
:-)
Thanks for the info!
JCD



Joe Pfeiffer August 12th 07 06:20 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
Richard J Kinch writes:
pogo writes:

Would liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ? Any reason
not to use it ?
I will mostly be cutting/tapping aluminum.


Liquid Wrench is nothing but kerosene in a high-priced can for suckers.


That's not what the MSDS says.

I'm not quite sure why you'd want to use a penetrant as a cutting
fluid, but it's not kerosene.

Richard J Kinch August 12th 07 08:03 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
Joe Pfeiffer writes:

Liquid Wrench is nothing but kerosene in a high-priced can for suckers.


That's not what the MSDS says.


Sure it does. If you know the nomenclature.

Nick Mueller August 12th 07 11:44 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
pogo wrote:

Would liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ? Any reason not
to use it ?
I will mostly be cutting/tapping aluminum.


For aluminium, it is OK. Not for steel. So why not buy a real cutting fluid?
Oh! Spit is good for aluminium, can't be cheaper.


Nick

[email protected] August 12th 07 07:03 PM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 

Depends on what you expect a tapping/cutting fluid to do. Most of
them simply carry away heat, either through flooding and convection,
or through evaporation (energy absorption due to change of state). A
few, like the old Rapid Tap that had 1,1,1-trichloroethane in it,
actually created a thin oxide layer on the tool as soon as the tool
got hot, and that oxide acted as the lubricant. The trick was to use
only a drop so that the tool would get warm enough. Too many folks
would flood it and the effect was lost.
Of course, like anything that works well, it was outlawed, in
this case because it affected the ozone layer. I don't know if the
"new" Rapid Tap (must be 17 or 18 years old now) does the same thing,
but it looks more like oil and doesn't work as well. I still have half
a can of the old stuff that I use only on the toughest cuts.
WD40 or kerosene or anything like that (I use Mouse Milk
sometimes) will evaporate quickly and cool the tool. Makes less mess
than having to flood it. The messiest stuff I ever used was a green
goop that resembled yogurt that worked ok but left scum and lumps all
over everything. Can't remember the name of it.

Dan


Rick August 12th 07 11:13 PM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Depends on what you expect a tapping/cutting fluid to do. Most of
them simply carry away heat, either through flooding and convection,
or through evaporation (energy absorption due to change of state). A
few, like the old Rapid Tap that had 1,1,1-trichloroethane in it,
actually created a thin oxide layer on the tool as soon as the tool
got hot, and that oxide acted as the lubricant. The trick was to use
only a drop so that the tool would get warm enough. Too many folks
would flood it and the effect was lost.
Of course, like anything that works well, it was outlawed, in
this case because it affected the ozone layer. I don't know if the
"new" Rapid Tap (must be 17 or 18 years old now) does the same thing,
but it looks more like oil and doesn't work as well. I still have half
a can of the old stuff that I use only on the toughest cuts.
WD40 or kerosene or anything like that (I use Mouse Milk
sometimes) will evaporate quickly and cool the tool. Makes less mess
than having to flood it. The messiest stuff I ever used was a green
goop that resembled yogurt that worked ok but left scum and lumps all
over everything. Can't remember the name of it.

Dan


You talking about Anchor Lube?



Joe Pfeiffer August 13th 07 12:16 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
Richard J Kinch writes:

Joe Pfeiffer writes:

Liquid Wrench is nothing but kerosene in a high-priced can for suckers.


That's not what the MSDS says.


Sure it does. If you know the nomenclature.


The bottom-end formulation of Liquid Wrench is mostly naphtha.


[email protected] August 13th 07 12:37 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
On Aug 12, 4:13 pm, "Rick" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...







Depends on what you expect a tapping/cutting fluid to do. Most of
them simply carry away heat, either through flooding and convection,
or through evaporation (energy absorption due to change of state). A
few, like the old Rapid Tap that had 1,1,1-trichloroethane in it,
actually created a thin oxide layer on the tool as soon as the tool
got hot, and that oxide acted as the lubricant. The trick was to use
only a drop so that the tool would get warm enough. Too many folks
would flood it and the effect was lost.
Of course, like anything that works well, it was outlawed, in
this case because it affected the ozone layer. I don't know if the
"new" Rapid Tap (must be 17 or 18 years old now) does the same thing,
but it looks more like oil and doesn't work as well. I still have half
a can of the old stuff that I use only on the toughest cuts.
WD40 or kerosene or anything like that (I use Mouse Milk
sometimes) will evaporate quickly and cool the tool. Makes less mess
than having to flood it. The messiest stuff I ever used was a green
goop that resembled yogurt that worked ok but left scum and lumps all
over everything. Can't remember the name of it.


Dan


You talking about Anchor Lube?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That was it.

Dan


Roger Shoaf August 13th 07 12:42 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
The messiest stuff I ever used was a green
goop that resembled yogurt that worked ok but left scum and lumps all
over everything. Can't remember the name of it.

Dan


Would that be Molly-D?

--

__
Roger Shoaf

Important factors in selecting a mate:
1] Depth of gene pool
2] Position on the food chain.





Richard J Kinch August 13th 07 01:43 AM

liquid wrench be ok as a cutting or tapping fluid ?
 
Joe Pfeiffer writes:

That's not what the MSDS says.


Sure it does. If you know the nomenclature.


The bottom-end formulation of Liquid Wrench is mostly naphtha.


Probably not what you mean by "naphtha", such as VM&P naphtha.

One MSDS gives, "PETROLEUM MID-DISTILLATE, ALIPHATIC PETROLEUM NAPHTHA".

Aka "kerosene".


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