http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf7_1186167135

OK, WTF is going on here? Anybody in NYC care to give us any more info
on this?

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...
New York authorities were questioning three men found in a bizarre
submersible vessel floating just off Manhattan on Friday, according to
local reports.

The men were discovered early Friday near the cruise terminal in
Brooklyn where the massive ocean liner The Queen Mary II is moored,
ABC television reported on its website.

When asked about the incident, a police spokeswoman declined to
confirm the report or provide any further information, saying only
that officers were at the scene.

What the three men were doing in the vessel -- which appeared to be
spherical with a circular hatch on top -- was not immediately clear.

Metal working content: it looks like it's made from metal.
Dave

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3444500
wood with metal fittings
Karl

On Aug 3, 8:02 pm, dav1936531 wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf7_1186167135

OK, WTF is going on here? Anybody in NYC care to give us any more info
on this?

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...
New York authorities were questioning three men found in a bizarre
submersible vessel floating just off Manhattan on Friday, according to
local reports.

The men were discovered early Friday near the cruise terminal in
Brooklyn where the massive ocean liner The Queen Mary II is moored,
ABC television reported on its website.

When asked about the incident, a police spokeswoman declined to
confirm the report or provide any further information, saying only
that officers were at the scene.

What the three men were doing in the vessel -- which appeared to be
spherical with a circular hatch on top -- was not immediately clear.

Metal working content: it looks like it's made from metal.
Dave

"dav1936531" wrote in message
...
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OK, WTF is going on here? Anybody in NYC care to give us any more info
on this?

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...

It was a replica of a revolutionary war wooden semi-submersible. So
floating around in a public navigable waterway in what is little more than an
oddly-shaped wooden rowboat is now somehow a crime? The terrorists have won!
We now live in a country where the slightest odd behavior is a crime.

How long till it is considered "odd" to have a machine shop in your
basement? Who knows what you could be building down there.

Vaughn

"Vaughn Simon" wrote:

It was a replica of a revolutionary war wooden semi-submersible. So
floating around in a public navigable waterway in what is little more than an
oddly-shaped wooden rowboat is now somehow a crime? The terrorists have won!
We now live in a country where the slightest odd behavior is a crime.

The QMII has a legally protected security zone? I wonder what mine is and
if the use of deadly force is allowed.

This is on topic since there was metal in the gents project.

Wes

In article
,
"Vaughn Simon" wrote:

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...

It was a replica of a revolutionary war wooden semi-submersible. So
floating around in a public navigable waterway in what is little more than an
oddly-shaped wooden rowboat is now somehow a crime? The terrorists have won!
We now live in a country where the slightest odd behavior is a crime.


If a replica of the "Turtle" is terrorist then a replica of a
flintlock probably is too

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:39:58 -0500, Nick Hull wrote:

In article
,
"Vaughn Simon" wrote:

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...

It was a replica of a revolutionary war wooden semi-submersible. So
floating around in a public navigable waterway in what is little more than an
oddly-shaped wooden rowboat is now somehow a crime? The terrorists have won!
We now live in a country where the slightest odd behavior is a crime.


If a replica of the "Turtle" is terrorist then a replica of a
flintlock probably is too


I believe that muzzle loading weapons are excepted from the federal
gun control laws. They classify a Walther .22 cal pistol as an
assault weapon but you can own a percussion, 44 cal muzzle loader. I
wonder what Abe Lincoln would think about that.





Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

On Aug 4, 10:11 am, wrote:
On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:39:58 -0500, Nick Hull wrote:
In article
,
"Vaughn Simon" wrote:

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...

It was a replica of a revolutionary war wooden semi-submersible. So
floating around in a public navigable waterway in what is little more than an
oddly-shaped wooden rowboat is now somehow a crime? The terrorists have won!
We now live in a country where the slightest odd behavior is a crime.

If a replica of the "Turtle" is terrorist then a replica of a
flintlock probably is too

I believe that muzzle loading weapons are excepted from the federal
gun control laws. They classify a Walther .22 cal pistol as an
assault weapon but you can own a percussion, 44 cal muzzle loader. I
wonder what Abe Lincoln would think about that.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)



Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

Dave

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:39:58 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Nick
Hull quickly quoth:

In article
,
"Vaughn Simon" wrote:

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...

It was a replica of a revolutionary war wooden semi-submersible. So
floating around in a public navigable waterway in what is little more than an
oddly-shaped wooden rowboat is now somehow a crime? The terrorists have won!
We now live in a country where the slightest odd behavior is a crime.

If a replica of the "Turtle" is terrorist then a replica of a
flintlock probably is too

Did you misread him? He was saying that the terrorists (behind 9/11,
etc.) had won because our country is being locked down in paranoia.
Our fearful leaders don't seem to realize that they can't ever
"protect us" from terrorists, period. We're wasting billions over
nothing and losing our freedoms in the process.

Tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of people no longer fly due to the
assinine restrictions and invasive processes now involved in merely
boarding a plane. Feh!

--
"Excess regulation and government spending destroy jobs and increase
unemployment. Every regulator we fire results in the creation of over
150 new jobs, enough to hire the ex-regulator, the unemployed, and
the able-bodied poor." -Michael Badnarik

Vaughn Simon wrote:

"dav1936531" wrote in message
...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf7_1186167135

OK, WTF is going on here? Anybody in NYC care to give us any more info
on this?

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...

It was a replica of a revolutionary war wooden semi-submersible. So
floating around in a public navigable waterway in what is little more than an
oddly-shaped wooden rowboat is now somehow a crime? The terrorists have won!
We now live in a country where the slightest odd behavior is a crime.

How long till it is considered "odd" to have a machine shop in your
basement? Who knows what you could be building down there.


It would be VERY odd for me. None of the six building on my property
even has a basment.

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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
...

"dav1936531" wrote in message
...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf7_1186167135

OK, WTF is going on here? Anybody in NYC care to give us any more info
on this?

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...

It was a replica of a revolutionary war wooden semi-submersible. So
floating around in a public navigable waterway in what is little more than
an oddly-shaped wooden rowboat is now somehow a crime? The terrorists
have won! We now live in a country where the slightest odd behavior is a
crime.

My first thought as well, but towing what looks like a floating bomb within
200 feet of a potential target is just retarded. In this case, I don't think
the police overreacted, and I think this "artist" probably welcomed the
publicity.

Who's the idiot who labeled the device 'bizarre'?
JR
Dweller in the cellar
more sensible statement:
""A makeshift submarine discovered at about 10:30 this morning by an
NYPD Intelligence detective onboard the Queen Mary 2 in New York Harbor
is the creative craft of three adventuresome individuals," NYPD
Commissioner Raymond Kelly announced in an afternoon press release. "It
does not pose any terrorist threat."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3444500

dav1936531 wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf7_1186167135

OK, WTF is going on here? Anybody in NYC care to give us any more info
on this?

Bizarre submersible found floating off New York City...
New York authorities were questioning three men found in a bizarre
submersible vessel floating just off Manhattan on Friday, according to
local reports.

The men were discovered early Friday near the cruise terminal in
Brooklyn where the massive ocean liner The Queen Mary II is moored,
ABC television reported on its website.

When asked about the incident, a police spokeswoman declined to
confirm the report or provide any further information, saying only
that officers were at the scene.

What the three men were doing in the vessel -- which appeared to be
spherical with a circular hatch on top -- was not immediately clear.

Metal working content: it looks like it's made from metal.
Dave


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dav1936531 wrote:
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-snip-

Metal working content: it looks like it's made from metal.
Dave



saw a video about it on

http://www.newsday.com:80/news/local...gion-apnewyork

shows it being hauled away on a nyc police flat bed truck.

that's a DAMN shame. when i was a kid looking at encyclopedia britannica
and thought "The Turtle" was SO cool! even as a kid i wished i could've
built one. now this guy DOES build and floated one and he's hauled off by
the cops. i mean, i can see how they'd think it was a homemade terrorist
bomb device (like they thought the LED Ignignokt lights they found in
boston) but that's a damn shame they had to haul the guy in and confiscate
his sub! hope they didn't (and won't) damage it and they give it back to
him and he won't face any charges. that's too cool that he built one and
floated it!

b.w.

(somebody said the terrorists won. sucks.)

maybe the NYC cops will be sensible, but more likely today someone will
invoke the patriot act and it will be illegal to even talk about it

I agree with larry J - the terrorists have won, it's time to start our own
insurgency to take back the country - we ought to be able to argue about
politics without degenerating into name calling (you know, the commie pinko
liberal nattering nabob versus the captialist imperialst running dog pig),
we ought to be able to carry a pair of cuticle clippers onto an airplane, we
ought to be smart enough to know that live is always fatal, and nothing will
ever be risk free


"William Wixon" wrote in message
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dav1936531 wrote:
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OK, WTF is going on here? Anybody in NYC care to give us any more info
on this?

-snip-

Metal working content: it looks like it's made from metal.
Dave



saw a video about it on

http://www.newsday.com:80/news/local...gion-apnewyork

shows it being hauled away on a nyc police flat bed truck.

that's a DAMN shame. when i was a kid looking at encyclopedia britannica
and thought "The Turtle" was SO cool! even as a kid i wished i could've
built one. now this guy DOES build and floated one and he's hauled off by
the cops. i mean, i can see how they'd think it was a homemade terrorist
bomb device (like they thought the LED Ignignokt lights they found in
boston) but that's a damn shame they had to haul the guy in and confiscate
his sub! hope they didn't (and won't) damage it and they give it back to
him and he won't face any charges. that's too cool that he built one and
floated it!

b.w.

(somebody said the terrorists won. sucks.)









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William Noble wrote:
maybe the NYC cops will be sensible, but more likely today someone will
invoke the patriot act and it will be illegal to even talk about it

I agree with larry J - the terrorists have won, it's time to start our own
insurgency to take back the country - we ought to be able to argue about
politics without degenerating into name calling (you know, the commie pinko
liberal nattering nabob versus the captialist imperialst running dog pig),
we ought to be able to carry a pair of cuticle clippers onto an airplane, we
ought to be smart enough to know that live is always fatal, and nothing will
ever be risk free


Nail clippers!!

Hell, I'd be pretty happy to know that at least 1/3 of the folks
aboard a flight I was on were armed.

I'd rather take my chances on a gunfight occurring, than a takeover.

Cheers
Trevor Jones

On Aug 4, 8:56 pm, Trevor Jones wrote:
William Noble wrote:
maybe the NYC cops will be sensible, but more likely today someone will
invoke the patriot act and it will be illegal to even talk about it

I agree with larry J - the terrorists have won, it's time to start our own
insurgency to take back the country - we ought to be able to argue about
politics without degenerating into name calling (you know, the commie pinko
liberal nattering nabob versus the captialist imperialst running dog pig),
we ought to be able to carry a pair of cuticle clippers onto an airplane, we
ought to be smart enough to know that live is always fatal, and nothing will
ever be risk free

Nail clippers!!

Hell, I'd be pretty happy to know that at least 1/3 of the folks
aboard a flight I was on were armed.

I'd rather take my chances on a gunfight occurring, than a takeover.

Cheers
Trevor Jones

Sounds like you have never been in a firefight.

Bullets rarely go where they are supposed to...even with pro shooters.

In an airplane full of Sunday shooters the results would be
disasterous.

TMT