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Machining Polyurithane
Does anyone know how to machine polyurithane. I have to bore a tapered
hole in the subframe mounts for my car, (custom application). Using a boring bar the material just flexes around the bar. Any Ideas. John Roncallo |
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jremovespamblockroncallo wrote: Does anyone know how to machine polyurithane. I have to bore a tapered hole in the subframe mounts for my car, (custom application). Using a boring bar the material just flexes around the bar. Any Ideas. John Roncallo |
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"jremovespamblockroncallo roncallo @snet.net" "jremovespamblock wrote in message et... Does anyone know how to machine polyurithane. I have to bore a tapered hole in the subframe mounts for my car, (custom application). Using a boring bar the material just flexes around the bar. Any Ideas. John Roncallo I would make a external mandrel to hold the outside of the material and then grind the desired internal dimention. Trying to single point something this soft is going to be an exercise in futility. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
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Machining Polyurithane
"jremovespamblockroncallo roncallo @snet.net" "jremovespamblock wrote in message et... Does anyone know how to machine polyurithane. I have to bore a tapered hole in the subframe mounts for my car, (custom application). Using a boring bar the material just flexes around the bar. Any Ideas. John Roncallo It can be machined with success, assuming it's not too soft. It varies. HSS tools with an absurd amount of positive rake, honed very sharp, will work. The rake is best accomplished via chip breaker, which helps prevent hogging. It doesn't cut clean, the way Delrin does, but it will cut size when you have things right. Drilling is an excellent indicator. You should get a reasonable hole, and chips. If the drill plunges but doesn't cut well, most likely you won't have any luck machining the stuff you have. Grinding, as has already been mentioned, will work. If you're trying to use carbide insert tooling, I'm of the opinion you'll never achieve your goal. I made tapered bushings from urethane for the boat I used to own. It had a Mercruiser I/O drive. The hydraulic arms came equipped with rubber bushings that extruded regularly, and were a PITA to replace. The bushings I made lasted years, and were still in the drive when the boat was sold. You're making an excellent choice, assuming it's hard enough to machine. Harold |
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jremovespamblockroncallo wrote:
Does anyone know how to machine polyurithane. I have to bore a tapered hole in the subframe mounts for my car, (custom application). Using a boring bar the material just flexes around the bar. Any Ideas. John Roncallo These people give good advice that works: http://www.redranger.com.au/docs/Page%208.pdf Tom |
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Machining Polyurithane
Grinding works well even on things like sponge rubbers.
But it leaves one hullova mess! DOC On Jul 29, 12:11 am, "Roger Shoaf" wrote: "jremovespamblockroncallo roncallo @snet.net" "jremovespamblock wrote in odigy.net... Does anyone know how to machine polyurithane. I have to bore a tapered hole in the subframe mounts for my car, (custom application). Using a boring bar the material just flexes around the bar. Any Ideas. John Roncallo I would make a external mandrel to hold the outside of the material and then grind the desired internal dimention. Trying to single point something this soft is going to be an exercise in futility. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
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According to Harold and Susan Vordos :
"jremovespamblockroncallo roncallo @snet.net" "jremovespamblock wrote in message et... Does anyone know how to machine polyurithane. I have to bore a tapered [ ... ] If you're trying to use carbide insert tooling, I'm of the opinion you'll never achieve your goal. Well ... that depends. With *most* carbide insert tooling, I totally agree. However, I do have some nicely sharp *uncoated* carbide insert tooling in 55 degree diamond shape which fit the shanks for my Compact-5/CNC. Any time you get a coated insert, you can bet that it is not particularlys sharp, but some uncoated can be sharp enough. (I often use these even on the much larger 12x24" Clausing when I want a particularly sharp tool.) These show signs of being ground to finish after being formed, which probably accounts for the major part of the difference. I have no idea how to duplicate this set. There was someone perhaps five to eight years ago here in this newsgroup who was offering to give away a few to anyone who was interested. I turned out to be the only one interested (perhaps the only one here with the holders), and they were superior to any that came with the lathe, so when he offered to sell me the whole batch of what was left, I took him up on it. Some are ground for left-hand cutting only, some for right-hand cutting only, and some for both. Of course the "both" is the smallest number, and the "right-hand" is the next smallest, but I still have enough to keep me happy. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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jremovespamblockroncallo wrote:
Does anyone know how to machine polyurithane. I have to bore a tapered hole in the subframe mounts for my car, (custom application). Using a boring bar the material just flexes around the bar. Any Ideas. John Roncallo Gentelmen Thank you for all the help. From most of the posts here it kind of pointed me in the right direction. Get some tool with a high rake in there. I made a tool out of a piece of 1/2" tubing. I ground down 90 % of the cross section from one side and sharpend it to effectively make a boaring bar with a very high rake angle. I did forget to mension that the bore was not required to be precise, so eyeball round was fine. I also liked the idea of frezzing but anything below houshold frezer temperature was unavailable (Except for the last 5 LB of Freon 12 I have) http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...4&postcount=68 |
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message ... According to Harold and Susan Vordos : "jremovespamblockroncallo roncallo @snet.net" "jremovespamblock wrote in message et... Does anyone know how to machine polyurithane. I have to bore a tapered [ ... ] If you're trying to use carbide insert tooling, I'm of the opinion you'll never achieve your goal. Well ... that depends. With *most* carbide insert tooling, I totally agree. However, I do have some nicely sharp *uncoated* carbide insert tooling in 55 degree diamond shape which fit the shanks for my Compact-5/CNC. Any time you get a coated insert, you can bet that it is not particularlys sharp, but some uncoated can be sharp enough. (I often use these even on the much larger 12x24" Clausing when I want a particularly sharp tool.) These show signs of being ground to finish after being formed, which probably accounts for the major part of the difference. I use a diamond ground insert (RB), too, which would be sharp enough, but sharp isn't enough for this material. If you haven't attempted to machine it, it's hard to understand. It machines much like rubber. It requires considerably more positive rake than is available from insert tooling, plus a broad, deep chip breaker (if desired), thus my comment. I have no doubt that a successful tool could be ground in carbide if one cared to spend the time. Harold |
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According to Harold and Susan Vordos :
"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message ... According to Harold and Susan Vordos : [ ... ] use carbide insert tooling, I'm of the opinion you'll never achieve your goal. Well ... that depends. With *most* carbide insert tooling, I totally agree. However, I do have some nicely sharp *uncoated* carbide insert tooling in 55 degree diamond shape which fit the shanks for my Compact-5/CNC. Any time you get a coated insert, you can bet that it is [ ... ] These show signs of being ground to finish after being formed, which probably accounts for the major part of the difference. I use a diamond ground insert (RB), too, which would be sharp enough, but sharp isn't enough for this material. If you haven't attempted to machine it, it's hard to understand. It machines much like rubber. It requires considerably more positive rake than is available from insert tooling, plus a broad, deep chip breaker (if desired), thus my comment. I have no doubt that a successful tool could be ground in carbide if one cared to spend the time. O.K. I'll take your word on that. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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