I have been looking for a long while to buy a shaping cone....without
success.

So how does one make a shaping cone?

Or what is out there as a good substitute for one?

Thanks

TMT

Depends upon what you are shaping. Mostly they are just cones on a stick or
other means of holding the cone while it is being used.

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"Bob May" wrote in message
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Depends upon what you are shaping. Mostly they are just cones on a
stick or
other means of holding the cone while it is being used.

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Why do penguins walk so far to get to their nesting grounds?



Get a plastic traffic cone, take it to your nearest iron foundry and
get them to use it as a pattern.

AWEM

Bob May wrote:
Depends upon what you are shaping. Mostly they are just cones on a stick or
other means of holding the cone while it is being used.


I made mine by making a conical "birds nest" of 3/4" bar about 2' high
and about 2" diameter tapering to about 3".
Then filled it with rebar and concrete :.))

I used a traffic cone as the mould



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Why do penguins walk so far to get to their nesting grounds?


cos they can't fly?
;.)

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I am thinking of a blacksmith cone mandrel...waist to chest
high...hundreds of pounds of iron.

Is there anything out there that can take the place of this tool? Maybe
I need to start some serious junk diving.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking of a blacksmith cone mandrel...waist to chest
high...hundreds of pounds of iron.

They're hollow ..

GWE

"
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking of a blacksmith cone mandrel...waist to chest
high...hundreds of pounds of iron.


They're hollow ..

GWE "

I know...but the larger ones are still hundreds of pounds of iron.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking of a blacksmith cone mandrel...waist to chest
high...hundreds of pounds of iron.

Is there anything out there that can take the place of this tool? Maybe
I need to start some serious junk diving.

TMT

Thats the jobbie.
Reinforced concrete with bars of iron down the outside.

There's a plan to build one on the web somewhere, cos that's where
I got the idea for mine.


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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking of a blacksmith cone mandrel...waist to chest
high...hundreds of pounds of iron.

Is there anything out there that can take the place of this tool? Maybe
I need to start some serious junk diving.

TMT


http://www.anvilfire.com/21centbs/anvils/cones/cone_mandrel.htm

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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
I have been looking for a long while to buy a shaping cone....without
success.

So how does one make a shaping cone?

Or what is out there as a good substitute for one?

Thanks

TMT

I went to the Le Sueur MN Pioneer Power swap meet last year and saw 4 or 5
for sale. A four foot high cone was priced at $225.00 and I would have liked
to drag it home. Although it might be a far piece for you to travel I am
sure there will be more this year. http://www.pioneerpowershow.com/
Steve

Shaping cone, a cone used to shape things (?)

Sounds simple, but could someone be more specific as to what
this is used for?

Richard
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have been looking for a long while to buy a shaping cone....without
success.

So how does one make a shaping cone?

Or what is out there as a good substitute for one?

Thanks

TMT

I use mine to shape iron rings after forging. Also comes in handy if you
need to repair dings in rounded sheetmetal. It's like having a BIG
jewelers mandrel

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it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
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"Art Van Dalay" wrote in message
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Shaping cone, a cone used to shape things (?)

Sounds simple, but could someone be more specific as to what
this is used for?

Richard
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I have been looking for a long while to buy a shaping
cone....without
success.

So how does one make a shaping cone?

Or what is out there as a good substitute for one?

Thanks

TMT






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I guess I've heard them called "cone mandrels". They were almost always
made of cast iron, as far as I can tell.
Centaur Froge has a small one that used to sell for $45. It is a
little over a foot tall with a base of about 4 " diameter and has a
hardy stem that is about 1 inch square. One of the better deals that
they EVER had!!!!
But you are probably thinking of the ones that are about 4 feet tall,
with a base about a foot or so in diameter. One guy I know was going
to try to get 1/4" thick plate cut into 4 triangles, each 4 feet long.
These triangles would be rolled to the correct shape in a fab shop, then
welded together and ground as needed with an angle grinder.
Another approach is to simply weld it up from 1/4 inch strips of
steel and grind to shape.
If you are dead set on making one, I wouldn't worry about having it
perfectly pointed at the top. You can always use a vise or anvil
mounted cone shaped mandrel that is shop-made for small things.
Some of the original floor type cone mandrels had inserts for the
tops, maybe 6 inches long or so that, I suppose, one could replace them
it that end got broken off.
Will Hightower, previous treasurer of ABANA, who lives in Alaska, was
seriously working on a solution to this problem a few years ago. I
haven't heard what his final solution was, but it might be worth it to
contact him. Here the last address I have for him:

Tell him that Sheri and I said "hello".
Pete Stanaitis
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I have been looking for a long while to buy a shaping cone....without
success.

So how does one make a shaping cone?

Or what is out there as a good substitute for one?

Thanks

TMT

In article . com,
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote:

I am thinking of a blacksmith cone mandrel...waist to chest
high...hundreds of pounds of iron.

Is there anything out there that can take the place of this tool? Maybe
I need to start some serious junk diving.

TMT

You can sometimes find long pipe reducers that go from 8" pipe down to
4" pipe.

I have a cone mandrel and have no intention of selling it at this time.

You could build one by welding sections of heavy pipe into slight cones
and stack them.

Lots of welding and grinding.

You can buy smaller new ones.

--
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- Divers Institute of Technology
CWI/CWE
WABO Examiner

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:15:08 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:

In article . com,
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote:

I am thinking of a blacksmith cone mandrel...waist to chest
high...hundreds of pounds of iron.

Is there anything out there that can take the place of this tool? Maybe
I need to start some serious junk diving.

TMT

You can sometimes find long pipe reducers that go from 8" pipe down to
4" pipe.

I have a cone mandrel and have no intention of selling it at this time.

You could build one by welding sections of heavy pipe into slight cones
and stack them.

Lots of welding and grinding.

You can buy smaller new ones.
Several years ago, the baggage conveyor in the local airport (I was
project supervisor) was replaced. One portion of this system was a
curved belt on a traveling carriage to distribute the luggage along
the pickup area. The curved belt had conical rollers at each end that
would have been perfect, they were ~3' long, 4" at the small end and
12" at the other. I have often wished I had snagged these from the
scrap bin, but then SWMBO might have had testicular bookends if I had.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote in news:ernie-
:

In article . com,
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote:

I am thinking of a blacksmith cone mandrel...waist to chest
high...hundreds of pounds of iron.

Is there anything out there that can take the place of this tool? Maybe
I need to start some serious junk diving.

TMT

You can sometimes find long pipe reducers that go from 8" pipe down to
4" pipe.

I have a cone mandrel and have no intention of selling it at this time.

You could build one by welding sections of heavy pipe into slight cones
and stack them.

Lots of welding and grinding.

You can buy smaller new ones.


This foundry casts these cones.

http://www.hernironworks.com/blacksmith.html

brad

Maybe six years ago I picked up a flyer for these guys
Green-Mengel Blacksmithing Tools
Eric Green (610)562-3026
Steven Mengel (610)562-8561

I don't know if they're still in business, but they had cones.

Steve

Brad wrote:

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote in news:ernie-
:



In article . com,
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote:



I am thinking of a blacksmith cone mandrel...waist to chest
high...hundreds of pounds of iron.

Is there anything out there that can take the place of this tool? Maybe
I need to start some serious junk diving.

TMT


You can sometimes find long pipe reducers that go from 8" pipe down to
4" pipe.

I have a cone mandrel and have no intention of selling it at this time.

You could build one by welding sections of heavy pipe into slight cones
and stack them.

Lots of welding and grinding.

You can buy smaller new ones.




This foundry casts these cones.

http://www.hernironworks.com/blacksmith.html

brad

Okay thanks for the comments.

I think I will be building one....what are the dimensions of the cone
mandrels that you have seen?

Thanks

TMT

In article .com,
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote:

Okay thanks for the comments.

I think I will be building one....what are the dimensions of the cone
mandrels that you have seen?

Thanks

TMT

Mine is four feet tall, about an inch diameter at the top and about 15
inches at the bottom. Got it, a forge, blower, and some loose metal at a
farm sale for $100 US.

I sold the forge for $100 and figured I gave that buyer a big break, but
he was a beginning smith and needed a decent forge. So I guess the cone
mandrel was sorta free in the end.

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