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Where can I get plans for a sterling engine and or sources to buy where
one can be afforded.

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choppers wrote:
Where can I get plans for a sterling engine and or sources to buy where
one can be afforded.


http://store.homeshopmachinist.net/index.cfm

Search on "Rudy". Volumes 2 and 3 have Sterling
engines. The entire volumes are great reads.
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On 16 Mar 2006 14:51:35 -0800, "choppers" wrote:

Where can I get plans for a sterling engine and or sources to buy where
one can be afforded.



I'm working on a few. If they work I'll be making plans available.
Designed to use readily available parts and simple construction, but
quite durable/advanced.
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choppers wrote:

Where can I get plans for a sterling engine and or sources to buy where
one can be afforded.


A sterling engine of any sort is gonna cost. 'Cause of the sterling you
have to make it out of.

A Stirling engine, or Stirling cycle engine on the other hand, can be
made out of odd's and sods usually found in a home workshop.

:-)

Yup, I know I'm a smartarse sometimes.

Google the phrase "stirling plans" and you get lots of freebies and
even more links to guys selling plans or kits.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/mechtoys/stirling.html is just one of many
useful links...


Cheers
Trevor Jones
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Here are some links:
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/html/stirling.htm
http://www.stirlingengine.com/
http://www.sesusa.org/DrIz/engines/gamma.html

I'm building the "Fizgig", which can be made from simple materials.
Engineman



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Here are some links:
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/html/stirling.htm
http://www.stirlingengine.com/
http://www.sesusa.org/DrIz/engines/gamma.html

I'm building the "Fizgig", which can be made from simple materials.
Engineman

Are the Fizgig plans still available? The link is bad.
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http://www.lindsaybks.com/
has a lot of interesting books in this line.

Steve

choppers wrote:

Where can I get plans for a sterling engine and or sources to buy where
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Here are some links:
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/html/stirling.htm
http://www.stirlingengine.com/http://www.sesusa.org/DrIz/engines/gamma.html


I'm building the "Fizgig", which can be made from simple materials.
Engineman
Are the Fizgig plans still available? The link is bad.


I obtained the plans several months ago, contact me off the newsgroup
and I'll send a copy.
Engineman1

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Thanks, a lot smart-aleck I have already done "STIRLING". I just
spelled it wrong in the post.

But seriously tell me why is it that I haven't found any serious
plans, only toys?

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choppers wrote:

Thanks, a lot smart-aleck I have already done "STIRLING". I just
spelled it wrong in the post.

But seriously tell me why is it that I haven't found any serious
plans, only toys?


Perhaps because you are posting to a rec newsgroup, and you did not say
you wanted a set of plans for a motor that could do anything useful.
Briggs and Stratton are a better bet on that front.

What really did you expect to be able to do with it?

The reason that there were not a lot of them around in their heydey was
that they were very low output machines. To their benefit, they would
also not blow your ass all over the scenery, which was the very real
risk of steam.

Typically an engine that weighed several hundred pounds would output in
the region of a quarter to a third of a HP, and not at very high rpm
either. Those were the numbers I have read relating to the
Rider-Erickson like this
http://www.rustyiron.com/engines/stable/ericsson.html

To get at the state of the art you want to start by borrowing from the
library a couple books that I had ordered in but did not have the
fluency in higher mathematics to read. There was something to do with a
relationship to Philips of Holland. Probably it was this book, The
Phillips Stirling Engine found on this page
http://www.sesusa.org/books.htm

http://www.geocities.com/kenboak/stirling1.html has a pile of
information on relatively powerful Stirling engines.

Much of the difficulty in secureing much output from these engines
stems hrom being able to heep pressurised helium gas from getting out
when it was used as the working gas. As often as not in my readings at
the time, I found the solution used was to bury a generator assy inside
the pressurised volume of the engine and run the wires out through well
potted holes.

Have fun!

Cheers
Trevor Jones


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Thank you Trevor, this is the kind of info I am looking for. I want to
use it as an alternative source of power for my home and shop. I know
that the technologies exist to be able to accomplish this, with a
reasonable amount of capital outlay. There are others doing it and
producing enough power to accomplish what I want, but they won't let
out any cues where to start.

Thanks again,

Dan

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