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HELP: Required Tools to stock my shop?
I need to know what tools (basic to advanced) should
be stocked in my dunebuggy/sandrail/auto fabrication shop? Usually working with +/- 2" tubing, plate steel and sheet metal of various thickness... what should I have in the shop? type of screwdrivers? type of hammers? type of drills? type of welders? type of grinders? type of etc...? need help to get this shop stocked correctly... TIA, FrOg |
HELP: Required Tools to stock my shop?
FrOg wrote in article ... I need to know what tools (basic to advanced) should be stocked in my dunebuggy/sandrail/auto fabrication shop? Usually working with +/- 2" tubing, plate steel and sheet metal of various thickness... what should I have in the shop? type of screwdrivers? type of hammers? type of drills? type of welders? type of grinders? type of etc...? need help to get this shop stocked correctly... TIA, FrOg With no malice intended, it would appear that you do not have enough experience to be building the type of machines in which people could be seriously injured - or killed. If you had worked at automotive/metal fabrication in the past, your experience would make you more than familiar with the various hand tools and shop equipment that is necessary to properly construct these chassis and components. At the very least, you should visit different automotive and non-automotive metal fabricating shops in your area to get a handle on the sorts of things that must be addressed to build a safe vehicle, and the tools and equipment necessary to achieve those goals. Your message suggests that you do not even have a good familiarity with the sorts of hand tools required, let alone the more sophisticated power metalworking tools such as tubing benders, welders, cutters, etc. Before you get your shop stocked correctly with tools and equipment, you need to get your knowledge and experience bases stocked correctly. The correct selection of tools and equipment for the type of work your shop does will come from that knowledge and experience. Bob Paulin - R.A.C.E. Race Car Chassis Setup & Dial-in Services |
HELP: Required Tools to stock my shop?
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Required Tools to stock my shop?
"FrOg" wrote in message ... I need to know what tools (basic to advanced) should be stocked in my dunebuggy/sandrail/auto fabrication shop? Usually working with +/- 2" tubing, plate steel and sheet metal of various thickness... what should I have in the shop? type of screwdrivers? type of hammers? type of drills? type of welders? type of grinders? type of etc...? need help to get this shop stocked correctly... TIA, FrOg This is like me asking what tools I need to do brain surgery? Some people don't have a clue. Or... a troll!? Lane |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
In article , Lane says...
This is like me asking what tools I need to do brain surgery? Sure, ya just buy them from Sears! Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
This is like me asking what tools I need to do brain surgery?
^^^^^^^^^^ Sure, ya just buy them from Sears! ^^^^^^^^^^ Interesting you should bring that up, because I have been thinking of going into the brain surgery business. Will I be better off working in a hospital, or can I save money by having a store front, walk-in kind of place. What is the best kind of operating table to get, and are there any special kind of scalpels and stuff that I ought to have? I don't mind spending some money, but I don't want to go out and buy a bunch of stuff that I will have to replace after I know more about what I am doing. Also, can anyone suggest a good place to learn brain surgery? |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
In article , Leo
Lichtman says... Also, can anyone suggest a good place to learn brain surgery? Read Craig Vertosik's book, "You're Never the Same Once the Air Hits Your Brain." It is indeed a real eye (er, skull) opener about neurosurgery. How to do lumbar punctures. How to engrave an insult into a piece of somebody's skull, and get caught doing it, too! How to survive as a resident in a teaching hospital. Great book. Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... This is like me asking what tools I need to do brain surgery? ^^^^^^^^^^ Sure, ya just buy them from Sears! ^^^^^^^^^^ Interesting you should bring that up, because I have been thinking of going into the brain surgery business. Will I be better off working in a hospital, or can I save money by having a store front, walk-in kind of place. What is the best kind of operating table to get, and are there any special kind of scalpels and stuff that I ought to have? I don't mind spending some money, but I don't want to go out and buy a bunch of stuff that I will have to replace after I know more about what I am doing. Also, can anyone suggest a good place to learn brain surgery? Practice makes perfect! Lots of practice. Be sure to discount your services while you practice. When you get good, then you can charge the higher rates. To save money, use exacto blades from the hobby store, just make sure to use a new one with each patient. Hang a sign on your mailbox in front of your house and convert an unused room into the operating room. And don't bother with those pesky medical licenses and malpractice insurance. Lane |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
Leo Lichtman wrote:
This is like me asking what tools I need to do brain surgery? ^^^^^^^^^^ Sure, ya just buy them from Sears! ^^^^^^^^^^ Also, can anyone suggest a good place to learn brain surgery? Just start reading the rec.crafts.brainsurgery newsgroup. There's lots of good advice over there. |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
Just start reading the rec.crafts.brainsurgery newsgroup. There's
lots of good advice over there. Can't find that one. What about alt.tv.animaniacs.pinky-brain? Close enough? Lane |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
This is like me asking what tools I need to do brain surgery? Some people don't have a clue. Or... a troll!? Lane Now the fun part is that if it wasn't a troll it turned into one with ease. Reno, Paul |
HELP: Required Tools to stock my shop?
Bob...I have worked around autos my whole life...my dad was a
mechanic, and I have built 3 different sand cars...restored 2 motorcycles (frame-off) and have always performed my own automotive work... I will be graduating from welding (MIG/TIG/ARC) school in 20 weeks and would really like to get a business going and was just looking for input from the group as to what they might stock a shop with given the chance to start from scratch... here's my wish list so far: Dewalt Hacksaw Tape Measure Engineers Square Scriber Vernier Callipers Protractor Various files 6" Bench mounted Vise C clamps & welding clamps Hammers sheet metal nibbler Electric Jig-Saw & Drill Pop rivit Gun Pipe Bending tool Marker Pen 20'' DISC SANDER/GRINDER 1 TON ARBOR PRESS 2 HP 10" BENCH GRINDER HEAVY DUTY COMBINATION BELT/DISC SANDER 16 SPEED FLOOR DRILL PRESS 1 HP 7" x 12" HYDRAULIC FEED METAL CUTTING BANDSAW 10'' INDUSTRIAL CIRCULAR COLD SAW PIPE AND TUBING NOTCHER 17'' BANDSAW HEAVY DUTY ROLLER STAND HEAVY DUTY GRINDER STAND WITH STORAGE TRAY HEAVY DUTY PIPE BENDER WHEEL CLAMP TIRE CHANGER 10 PC. COLOR CODED METRIC T-HANDLED HEX KEY SET 10 PC. COLOR CODED SAE T-HANDLED HEX KEY SET 2 PC. NUT SPLITTER SET 45 PC, METRIC TITANIUM NITRIDE COATED ALLOY STEEL TAP & DIE SET 45 PC, SAE TITANIUM NITRIDE COATED ALLOY STEEL TAP & DIE SET 1/2" PLANETARY GEAR REVERSIBLE PNEUMATIC DRILL 3/8'' REVERSIBLE AIR DRILL 3/8'' AIR ANGLE DRILL 2'' AIR ANGLE SANDER HIGH SPEED AIR BODY SAW With no malice intended, it would appear that you do not have enough experience to be building the type of machines in which people could be seriously injured - or killed. If you had worked at automotive/metal fabrication in the past, your experience would make you more than familiar with the various hand tools and shop equipment that is necessary to properly construct these chassis and components. At the very least, you should visit different automotive and non-automotive metal fabricating shops in your area to get a handle on the sorts of things that must be addressed to build a safe vehicle, and the tools and equipment necessary to achieve those goals. Your message suggests that you do not even have a good familiarity with the sorts of hand tools required, let alone the more sophisticated power metalworking tools such as tubing benders, welders, cutters, etc. Before you get your shop stocked correctly with tools and equipment, you need to get your knowledge and experience bases stocked correctly. The correct selection of tools and equipment for the type of work your shop does will come from that knowledge and experience. Bob Paulin - R.A.C.E. Race Car Chassis Setup & Dial-in Services |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
I have worked around autos my whole life...my dad was a
mechanic, and I have built 3 different sand cars...restored 2 motorcycles (frame-off) and have always performed my own automotive work... I will be graduating from welding (MIG/TIG/ARC) school in 20 weeks and would really like to get a business going and was just looking for input from the group as to what they might stock a shop with given the chance to start from scratch... here's my wish list so far: Dewalt Hacksaw Tape Measure Engineers Square Scriber Vernier Callipers Protractor Various files 6" Bench mounted Vise C clamps & welding clamps Hammers sheet metal nibbler Electric Jig-Saw & Drill Pop rivit Gun Pipe Bending tool Marker Pen 20'' DISC SANDER/GRINDER 1 TON ARBOR PRESS 2 HP 10" BENCH GRINDER HEAVY DUTY COMBINATION BELT/DISC SANDER 16 SPEED FLOOR DRILL PRESS 1 HP 7" x 12" HYDRAULIC FEED METAL CUTTING BANDSAW 10'' INDUSTRIAL CIRCULAR COLD SAW PIPE AND TUBING NOTCHER 17'' BANDSAW HEAVY DUTY ROLLER STAND HEAVY DUTY GRINDER STAND WITH STORAGE TRAY HEAVY DUTY PIPE BENDER WHEEL CLAMP TIRE CHANGER 10 PC. COLOR CODED METRIC T-HANDLED HEX KEY SET 10 PC. COLOR CODED SAE T-HANDLED HEX KEY SET 2 PC. NUT SPLITTER SET 45 PC, METRIC TITANIUM NITRIDE COATED ALLOY STEEL TAP & DIE SET 45 PC, SAE TITANIUM NITRIDE COATED ALLOY STEEL TAP & DIE SET 1/2" PLANETARY GEAR REVERSIBLE PNEUMATIC DRILL 3/8'' REVERSIBLE AIR DRILL 3/8'' AIR ANGLE DRILL 2'' AIR ANGLE SANDER HIGH SPEED AIR BODY SAW |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
These will be fabricated using 1.050 x 0.1 and larger round tubing
and .75 x .75 x .065 and larger square tubing for the base...are there die for the square tube as well? for those who don't know what a sandrail/dunebuggy is, this link is just on example of what they a http://www.extremebuggies.com/onshow....asp?series=51 TIA, FrOg |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
These will be fabricated using 1.050 x 0.1 and larger round tubing
and .75 x .75 x .065 and larger square tubing for the base...are there die for the square tube as well? Yes there are dies available for square tubing for some benders but not all and you will definitely want a tubing bender instead of a pipe bender. They're more expensive but you don't really have much choice because the pipe benders will make a mess of tubing. The biggest reason is that the dies are the wrong size. One inch pipe is measured by the ID so it's ~1" ID but the OD is more like 1.25", depending on which "schedule" it is. Tubing is sized by the OD so the OD of 1" tubing really is 1". Another reason the pipe benders make a mess of tubing is that the wall of tubing is usually quite a bit thinner so it's much more likely to kink, etc. I strongly suggest you research the matter quite a bit before making a purchase. I could save you quite a bit of trouble and money in the long run. A good place to start is Ernie's links page: http://www.stagesmith.com/Metal-link...nders__Formers The rest of his page is also a great resource for about anything metal-related you can think of. :-) Best Regards, Keith Marshall "I'm not grown up enough to be so old!" "FrOg" wrote in message ... These will be fabricated using 1.050 x 0.1 and larger round tubing and .75 x .75 x .065 and larger square tubing for the base...are there die for the square tube as well? for those who don't know what a sandrail/dunebuggy is, this link is just on example of what they a http://www.extremebuggies.com/onshow....asp?series=51 TIA, FrOg |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
On 16 Feb 2004 14:02:20 -0800, jim rozen
wrote: In article , Leo Lichtman says... Also, can anyone suggest a good place to learn brain surgery? Read Craig Vertosik's book, "You're Never the Same Once the Air Hits Your Brain." It is indeed a real eye (er, skull) opener about neurosurgery. How to do lumbar punctures. How to engrave an insult into a piece of somebody's skull, and get caught doing it, too! How to survive as a resident in a teaching hospital. Great book. Jim Ditch Medicine. Required reading for every survivalist. Be warned..the pictures are not for the faint of heart http://www.outdoorshub.com/Ditch_Med...873647173.html Gunner "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:34:49 GMT, Gunner
brought forth from the murky depths: On 16 Feb 2004 14:02:20 -0800, jim rozen wrote: In article , Leo Lichtman says... Also, can anyone suggest a good place to learn brain surgery? Read Craig Vertosik's book, "You're Never the Same Once the Air Hits Your Brain." Note to Jim: No wonder I couldn't find it. You flubbed -both- the title and the author's name. There was a copy in our library after all. In case anyone else is interested: "When the Air Hits Your Brain" by M.D. Frank T. Vertosick Jr. Ditch Medicine. Required reading for every survivalist. Be warned..the pictures are not for the faint of heart http://www.outdoorshub.com/Ditch_Med...873647173.html No gory pics at that URL. Were they in the book, Gunner? ---=====--- After all else fails, read the instructions. ---=====--- Website Design and Update http://www.diversify.com |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:32:04 GMT, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:34:49 GMT, Gunner brought forth from the murky depths: On 16 Feb 2004 14:02:20 -0800, jim rozen wrote: In article , Leo Lichtman says... Also, can anyone suggest a good place to learn brain surgery? Read Craig Vertosik's book, "You're Never the Same Once the Air Hits Your Brain." Note to Jim: No wonder I couldn't find it. You flubbed -both- the title and the author's name. There was a copy in our library after all. In case anyone else is interested: "When the Air Hits Your Brain" by M.D. Frank T. Vertosick Jr. Ditch Medicine. Required reading for every survivalist. Be warned..the pictures are not for the faint of heart http://www.outdoorshub.com/Ditch_Med...873647173.html No gory pics at that URL. Were they in the book, Gunner? Of course. Sorry for the confusion. The book is very detailed with good b&w photos of all the procedures, from how to debride a wound to removing a gangrenous limb, tying off the vessels and veins, , what sort of impromptu saw to use, how to install drains in the stump, etc etc. A very good book. Btw..want to see what my left foot looks like at present after dropping a 25lb chunk of 1" plate steel across all 5 toes Monday night? Its much better now after I popped the several golf ball sized blood blisters. I can only count 4 different colors. Its where they blend together that is the interesting part. Gunner "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
In article , Larry Jaques says...
Note to Jim: No wonder I couldn't find it. You flubbed -both- the title and the author's name. There was a copy in our library after all. In case anyone else is interested: "When the Air Hits Your Brain" by M.D. Frank T. Vertosick Jr. Uh oh. Busted!! That's what I get for posting without going downstairs and actually *inspecting* the bookshelf! Sorry for the confusion - but it is a great book. My mom (the nurse) suggested it to me. Ditch Medicine. Required reading for every survivalist. Be warned..the pictures are not for the faint of heart http://www.outdoorshub.com/Ditch_Med...873647173.html No gory pics at that URL. Were they in the book, Gunner? Well I sure hope so!! Otherwise it will be a waste of money. Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
Everyone going off on him won't help him!
Maybe he really doesn't understand that torque can tear apart a fram that an inexperienced builder designed and fabricated. Maybe a decent reply would be like the one to start with pre built frames, do some repairs to them, then buy a kit frame. To see how to apply the needed pre-stress in the frame, and welding practice? Flaming doesn't help a newbie! Refinish King "jim rozen" wrote in message ... In article , Lane says... This is like me asking what tools I need to do brain surgery? Sure, ya just buy them from Sears! Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
Required Tools to stock my shop?
These guys are bolstering their manhood:
By playing headgames with you. I built pro stock as well as pro street frames. It takes time to learn the fundamentals. It's not as clear cut as looking at a few and being able to build a frame though. You have to take into consideration angles of the rear section, to not put the stress on the driver seating area, but distribute it around the driver area. It would be a good idea to start with a new frame for a few cars, then a weld together kit, just to get the idea how the tubes are formed to distribute the torque and weight distribution. I hope this helps and I hope no insult was taken? Refinish King "FrOg" wrote in message ... I have worked around autos my whole life...my dad was a mechanic, and I have built 3 different sand cars...restored 2 motorcycles (frame-off) and have always performed my own automotive work... I will be graduating from welding (MIG/TIG/ARC) school in 20 weeks and would really like to get a business going and was just looking for input from the group as to what they might stock a shop with given the chance to start from scratch... here's my wish list so far: Dewalt Hacksaw Tape Measure Engineers Square Scriber Vernier Callipers Protractor Various files 6" Bench mounted Vise C clamps & welding clamps Hammers sheet metal nibbler Electric Jig-Saw & Drill Pop rivit Gun Pipe Bending tool Marker Pen 20'' DISC SANDER/GRINDER 1 TON ARBOR PRESS 2 HP 10" BENCH GRINDER HEAVY DUTY COMBINATION BELT/DISC SANDER 16 SPEED FLOOR DRILL PRESS 1 HP 7" x 12" HYDRAULIC FEED METAL CUTTING BANDSAW 10'' INDUSTRIAL CIRCULAR COLD SAW PIPE AND TUBING NOTCHER 17'' BANDSAW HEAVY DUTY ROLLER STAND HEAVY DUTY GRINDER STAND WITH STORAGE TRAY HEAVY DUTY PIPE BENDER WHEEL CLAMP TIRE CHANGER 10 PC. COLOR CODED METRIC T-HANDLED HEX KEY SET 10 PC. COLOR CODED SAE T-HANDLED HEX KEY SET 2 PC. NUT SPLITTER SET 45 PC, METRIC TITANIUM NITRIDE COATED ALLOY STEEL TAP & DIE SET 45 PC, SAE TITANIUM NITRIDE COATED ALLOY STEEL TAP & DIE SET 1/2" PLANETARY GEAR REVERSIBLE PNEUMATIC DRILL 3/8'' REVERSIBLE AIR DRILL 3/8'' AIR ANGLE DRILL 2'' AIR ANGLE SANDER HIGH SPEED AIR BODY SAW |
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