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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:28:23 +0000, Pete Wilcox wrote:
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Cliff wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:18:27 -0600, "John Scheldroup" wrote: Start taking massive doses of vitamin C - 1000-4000 mg per hour or more This may be both unwise & unsafe. I'm not so sure about 1-4g per *hour*, but Linus Pauling advocated and practised megadosing on VitC (5g per day, I think) and he lived to the age of ninety, so he might have been onto something! Moses lived 120 years and spent 40 wandering lost in a desert. QED Water is bad for you. Noah lived 350 years after the flood. QED Water is good for you. Isn't it the case that the body can only process so many mg per hour anyway, and anything in excess of this is simply excreted in the urine? You could bottle it & sell it to the third world as a health product. "Excess Vitamin C May Worsen Osteoarthritis" "Intakes of vitamin C above 100 mg do not result in an increase of ascorbic acid levels." "Unabsorbed vitamin C continues into the lower bowel and causes watery stools or diarrhea." "Excess vitamin C has also been implicated in the formation of orate and oxalate stones." [ Massive doses produces “rebound scurvy”? ] -- Cliff -- Cliff |
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"Cliff" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:28:23 +0000, Pete Wilcox wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Cliff wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:18:27 -0600, "John Scheldroup" wrote: Start taking massive doses of vitamin C - 1000-4000 mg per hour or more This may be both unwise & unsafe. I'm not so sure about 1-4g per *hour*, but Linus Pauling advocated and practised megadosing on VitC (5g per day, I think) and he lived to the age of ninety, so he might have been onto something! Moses lived 120 years and spent 40 wandering lost in a desert. QED Water is bad for you. Noah lived 350 years after the flood. QED Water is good for you. Isn't it the case that the body can only process so many mg per hour anyway, and anything in excess of this is simply excreted in the urine? You could bottle it & sell it to the third world as a health product. "Excess Vitamin C May Worsen Osteoarthritis" "Intakes of vitamin C above 100 mg do not result in an increase of ascorbic acid levels." "Unabsorbed vitamin C continues into the lower bowel and causes watery stools or diarrhea." Germs... http://kidshealth.org/kid/talk/qa/germs.html [ Protozoa (say: pro-toh-zoh-uh) are one-cell organisms that love moisture and often spread diseases through water. Some protozoa cause intestinal infections that lead to diarrhea (runny poop), nausea, and belly pain. ] Colds are caused by viruses, not bacteria. http://www.drgreene.com/21_1490.html [ The cold virus lives best at 98.6 degrees, so raising the temperature in the throat and nose can help. Drinking lots of hot tea and chicken soup and breathing in steam can help. Salt makes it more difficult for the cold virus to replicate--another good reason for chicken soup, which is often loaded with sodium. ] http://kidshealth.org/kid/talk/qa/germs.html [ Viruses (say: vy-rus-iz) need to be inside living cells to grow and reproduce. Most viruses can't survive very long if they're not inside a living thing like a plant, animal, or person. Whatever a virus lives in is called its host. When viruses get inside people's bodies, they can spread and make people sick. Viruses cause chicken pox, measles, flu, and many other diseases. Because some viruses can live for a while on something like a door knob or countertop, be sure to wash your hands regularly! ] About 10 years ago, an Australian doctor started saying that ulcer sufferers often had a 'new' germ in their stomachs. For a while, nobody paid him any attention. http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../mole00179.htm [ Bacteria that are not killed by acid, that in fact love to live in an acidic environment, is Helicobacter pylori. As you can imagine they live in the stomach which is their natural niche. However, most bacteria do not like acidity and will suffer. ] Did you know that Darker Chocolate is more Alkaline ?, been told what so far about Chocolate consumption besides, what's in your cavities ? g -- Has anyone tried eating dark chocolate with a common Cold ??, 50 mg Zinc caplets right before the cough/cold does work. I take one 50 mg everyday. John |
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"John Scheldroup" wrote in message ... "Cliff" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:28:23 +0000, Pete Wilcox wrote: Did you know that Darker Chocolate is more Alkaline ?, Has anyone tried eating dark chocolate with a common Cold ??, 50 mg Zinc caplets right before the cough/cold does work. I take one 50 mg everyday. John http://www.meridianinstitute.com/ceu/ceu21ph.html [ Edgar Cayce repeatedly insisted that certain infectious agents (such as cold virus) do not thrive in an alkaline environment. When asked how to prevent colds, Cayce replied, "… by keeping the body alkaline. Only in acids do colds attack the body." (9) ] Very interesting,... John |
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John Scheldroup wrote:
.. . . http://www.meridianinstitute.com/ceu/ceu21ph.html [ Edgar Cayce repeatedly insisted that certain infectious agents (such as cold virus) do not thrive in an alkaline environment. When asked how to prevent colds, Cayce replied, "… by keeping the body alkaline. Only in acids do colds attack the body." (9) ] Very interesting,... John Very silly. You simply can't "keep your body alkaline." Your body is going to maintain the proper pH or, quite literally, die trying. Acid or alkaline, it makes no difference except to the extent that you damage your body and if your urine gets more than mildly alkaline (pH 8) it's a pretty good indication that you're doing something wrong. TK -- "Not only does nature abhor a vacuum, you ought to see my cat's reaction." |
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"John Scheldroup" wrote in message ... "Cliff" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:28:23 +0000, Pete Wilcox wrote: http://www.drgreene.com/21_1490.html [ The cold virus lives best at 98.6 degrees, so raising the temperature in the throat and nose can help. Drinking lots of hot tea and chicken soup and breathing in steam can help. Salt makes it more difficult for the cold virus to replicate--another good reason for chicken soup, which is often loaded with sodium. ] ....I wonder why, has anyone ever explained why salt does that,..stops virus replicating ?? "Salt is an alkaline substance." Now you know, John |
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John Scheldroup wrote:
...I wonder why, has anyone ever explained why salt does that,..stops virus replicating ?? "Salt is an alkaline substance." Now you know, John Just *which* salt are you talking about? Table salt, aka Sodium Chloride or NaCl? If so, you need to contact the school district you graduated from High School in and ask for your parent's money back. TK -- "Not only does nature abhor a vacuum, you ought to see my cat's reaction." |
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"TDKozan" wrote in message ... John Scheldroup wrote: . . . http://www.meridianinstitute.com/ceu/ceu21ph.html [ Edgar Cayce repeatedly insisted that certain infectious agents (such as cold virus) do not thrive in an alkaline environment. When asked how to prevent colds, Cayce replied, "… by keeping the body alkaline. Only in acids do colds attack the body." (9) ] Very interesting,... John Very silly. You simply can't "keep your body alkaline." Your body is going to maintain the proper pH or, quite literally, die trying. Acid or alkaline, it makes no difference except to the extent that you damage your body and if your urine gets more than mildly alkaline (pH 8) What urinary medical condition would be cause for that to happen, to suddenly become more than mildly alkaline ? You were just diagnosed with infection, would your doctor tell you to drink lots of water or any ascorbic acid contained juice ? Ahh never mind, here's a short test to be found at bottom page. http://www.rnceus.com/ua/uaph.html John |
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John Scheldroup wrote:
"TDKozan" wrote in message ... John Scheldroup wrote: . . . http://www.meridianinstitute.com/ceu/ceu21ph.html [ Edgar Cayce repeatedly insisted that certain infectious agents (such as cold virus) do not thrive in an alkaline environment. When asked how to prevent colds, Cayce replied, "… by keeping the body alkaline. Only in acids do colds attack the body." (9) ] Very interesting,... John Very silly. You simply can't "keep your body alkaline." Your body is going to maintain the proper pH or, quite literally, die trying. Acid or alkaline, it makes no difference except to the extent that you damage your body and if your urine gets more than mildly alkaline (pH 8) What urinary medical condition would be cause for that to happen, to suddenly become more than mildly alkaline ? You were just diagnosed with infection, would your doctor tell you to drink lots of water or any ascorbic acid contained juice ? Ahh never mind, here's a short test to be found at bottom page. http://www.rnceus.com/ua/uaph.html John Work with me here. Are you saying that a urinary tract infection is a good thing? Or are you just thinking out loud? First you post a link that would have the sucke^W readers believe that keeping your body and urine alkaline is a "Good Thing" [tm] and then you post one that repeats what I just told you, i.e. pH outside of a narrow range, is a sign that things are wrong. To put it simply: Snake oil and sweeping generalizations extracted from a snippet of information taken out of context are both bad. TK -- "Not only does nature abhor a vacuum, you ought to see my cat's reaction." |
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"TDKozan" wrote in message ... John Scheldroup wrote: ...I wonder why, has anyone ever explained why salt does that,..stops virus replicating ?? "Salt is an alkaline substance." Now you know, John Just *which* salt are you talking about? Table salt, aka Sodium Chloride or NaCl? If so, you need to contact the school district you graduated from High School in and ask for your parent's money back. TK TD, let me help you out with that. http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/ph.html Acidic - the pH is between zero and 7.0 Neutral - the pH is 7.0 Basic (also called alkaline) - the pH is between 7.0 and 14. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ne&redirect=no In chemistry, an alkali is a specific type of base, formed as a carbonate, hydroxide or other ionic salt A basic solution is defined as one that has a pH greater than 7.0. Basic materials or solutions are sometimes called caustic or alkaline. John |
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"TDKozan" wrote in message ... John Scheldroup wrote: "TDKozan" wrote in message ... John Scheldroup wrote: . . . http://www.meridianinstitute.com/ceu/ceu21ph.html [ Edgar Cayce repeatedly insisted that certain infectious agents (such as cold virus) do not thrive in an alkaline environment. When asked how to prevent colds, Cayce replied, "… by keeping the body alkaline. Only in acids do colds attack the body." (9) ] Very interesting,... John Very silly. You simply can't "keep your body alkaline." Your body is going to maintain the proper pH or, quite literally, die trying. Acid or alkaline, it makes no difference except to the extent that you damage your body and if your urine gets more than mildly alkaline (pH 8) What urinary medical condition would be cause for that to happen, to suddenly become more than mildly alkaline ? You were just diagnosed with infection, would your doctor tell you to drink lots of water or any ascorbic acid contained juice ? Ahh never mind, here's a short test to be found at bottom page. http://www.rnceus.com/ua/uaph.html John Work with me here. Are you saying that a urinary tract infection is a good thing? Or are you just thinking out loud? First you post a link that would have the sucke^W readers believe that keeping your body and urine alkaline is a "Good Thing" [tm] and then you post one that repeats what I just told you, i.e. pH outside of a narrow range, is a sign that things are wrong. Nope, and I know more then you do. g http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro...3602-2385r.htm Chocolate traditionally is processed using heat and an alkaline treatment to reduce the bitter taste in the cacao bean, but Masterfoods reduced the temperature and cooking time and made other processing changes to retain the flavonoids in its products, she says. Flavonoids: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr...TF-8&scoring=d Have fun got to run, John |
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John Scheldroup wrote:
"TDKozan" wrote in message ... John Scheldroup wrote: ...I wonder why, has anyone ever explained why salt does that,..stops virus replicating ?? "Salt is an alkaline substance." Now you know, John Just *which* salt are you talking about? Table salt, aka Sodium Chloride or NaCl? If so, you need to contact the school district you graduated from High School in and ask for your parent's money back. TK TD, let me help you out with that. http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/ph.html Acidic - the pH is between zero and 7.0 Neutral - the pH is 7.0 Basic (also called alkaline) - the pH is between 7.0 and 14. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ne&redirect=no In chemistry, an alkali is a specific type of base, formed as a carbonate, hydroxide or other ionic salt A basic solution is defined as one that has a pH greater than 7.0. Basic materials or solutions are sometimes called caustic or alkaline. John No John, let me help /you/ out with this. A solution of common salt, NaCl in water is pH 7. There are /other/ salts that form acidic or basic solutions in water but when "salt" is discussed in a non-technical forum such as these, it is assumed that NaCl is being referred to. If you can't grasp this most simple (oops, almost said "basic") of concepts, you're a ****ing menace and I pity anyone that takes your advice on chemistry or medicine. TK -- "Not only does nature abhor a vacuum, you ought to see my cat's reaction." |
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John Scheldroup wrote:
drekectomy Have fun got to run, John Thank you, I will! plonk TK -- "Not only does nature abhor a vacuum, you ought to see my cat's reaction." |
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"TDKozan" wrote in message ... John Scheldroup wrote: If you can't grasp this most simple (oops, almost said "basic") of concepts, you're a ****ing menace and I pity anyone that takes your advice on chemistry or medicine. Yeah ok, but right now I got two whole chopped of chicken bones simmering at the kettle, so I guess I got my broth out of er anyway. Bye, John |
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"Cliff" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:28:23 +0000, Pete Wilcox wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Cliff wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:18:27 -0600, "John Scheldroup" wrote: Start taking massive doses of vitamin C - 1000-4000 mg per hour or more This may be both unwise & unsafe. I'm not so sure about 1-4g per *hour*, but Linus Pauling advocated and practised megadosing on VitC (5g per day, I think) and he lived to the age of ninety, so he might have been onto something! Moses lived 120 years and spent 40 wandering lost in a desert. QED Water is bad for you. Noah lived 350 years after the flood. QED Water is good for you. That's just silly. Isn't it the case that the body can only process so many mg per hour anyway, and anything in excess of this is simply excreted in the urine? You could bottle it & sell it to the third world as a health product. That's just nasty. "Excess Vitamin C May Worsen Osteoarthritis" Cite? "Intakes of vitamin C above 100 mg do not result in an increase of ascorbic acid levels." That's just what *I* said. Question is, 100mg per what? "Unabsorbed vitamin C continues into the lower bowel and causes watery stools or diarrhea." Cite? Just curious, Cheers, Pete. |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:49:11 +0000, Pete Wilcox wrote:
"Cliff" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:28:23 +0000, Pete Wilcox wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Cliff wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:18:27 -0600, "John Scheldroup" wrote: Start taking massive doses of vitamin C - 1000-4000 mg per hour or more This may be both unwise & unsafe. I'm not so sure about 1-4g per *hour*, but Linus Pauling advocated and practised megadosing on VitC (5g per day, I think) and he lived to the age of ninety, so he might have been onto something! Moses lived 120 years and spent 40 wandering lost in a desert. QED Water is bad for you. Noah lived 350 years after the flood. QED Water is good for you. That's just silly. Which bit? Isn't it the case that the body can only process so many mg per hour anyway, and anything in excess of this is simply excreted in the urine? You could bottle it & sell it to the third world as a health product. That's just nasty. It's also quite true. The average American excretes enough surplus vitamins to save whole families in some nations. Just condense, sterilize (without heat), package & ship .... "Excess Vitamin C May Worsen Osteoarthritis" Cite? A search for the quote should find it or many. "Intakes of vitamin C above 100 mg do not result in an increase of ascorbic acid levels." That's just what *I* said. Question is, 100mg per what? A search for the quote should find it or many. "Unabsorbed vitamin C continues into the lower bowel and causes watery stools or diarrhea." Cite? A search for the quote should find it or many. -- Cliff |
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