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![]() I hate the trend toward Don't Run With Scissors Very, very few know how to rate real risks or what they are. Even the major ones. [ The following all have the same risk of one in a million. For each one say whether you think the risk would likely be over or under estimated by an average person and support your answer using the above factors of risk perception. smoking two cigarettes drinking 30 diet sodas with saccharin eating one hundred fifty (1/2 lb) charcoal broiled steaks (aromatic hydrocarbon risk) eating one hundred, 100 gram servings of shrimp (formaldehyde risk) eating four tablespoons of peanut butter every 10 days for person without hepatitis B1 eating three hundred and fifty slices of stale bread (formaldehyde risk) drinking seventy pints of beer per year (alcohol cancer risk) exposure to typical radon levels in drinking water in California for six months drinking water with the EPA limit of arsenic (50 ppb) for three days one quarter of a typical chest X-ray non smoker exposed to average US radon level (1.5 pCi/l) for one week forty days of living in Denver (compared to Philadelphia) traveling 100 miles in a motor vehicle dying from a lightning strike in a 6 year period ] http://physics.ius.edu/~kyle/P310/Risk.html See also http://www.biology.usu.edu/courses/p...23RISK2005.pdf -- Cliff |
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So what diet soda, besides fountain diet coke, uses saccharin??? I thought
all were aspartame. Respectfully, Ron Moore "Cliff" wrote in message ... I hate the trend toward Don't Run With Scissors Very, very few know how to rate real risks or what they are. Even the major ones. [ The following all have the same risk of one in a million. For each one say whether you think the risk would likely be over or under estimated by an average person and support your answer using the above factors of risk perception. smoking two cigarettes drinking 30 diet sodas with saccharin eating one hundred fifty (1/2 lb) charcoal broiled steaks (aromatic hydrocarbon risk) eating one hundred, 100 gram servings of shrimp (formaldehyde risk) eating four tablespoons of peanut butter every 10 days for person without hepatitis B1 eating three hundred and fifty slices of stale bread (formaldehyde risk) drinking seventy pints of beer per year (alcohol cancer risk) exposure to typical radon levels in drinking water in California for six months drinking water with the EPA limit of arsenic (50 ppb) for three days one quarter of a typical chest X-ray non smoker exposed to average US radon level (1.5 pCi/l) for one week forty days of living in Denver (compared to Philadelphia) traveling 100 miles in a motor vehicle dying from a lightning strike in a 6 year period ] http://physics.ius.edu/~kyle/P310/Risk.html See also http://www.biology.usu.edu/courses/p...23RISK2005.pdf -- Cliff |
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There are a number now using "Splenda" such as the Adirondack Beverages
"Waist Watcher" line. Aspartame is so "yesterday!!" Ron Moore wrote in article DpHHf.1823$Tf3.1519@dukeread09... So what diet soda, besides fountain diet coke, uses saccharin??? I thought all were aspartame. Respectfully, Ron Moore "Cliff" wrote in message ... I hate the trend toward Don't Run With Scissors Very, very few know how to rate real risks or what they are. Even the major ones. [ The following all have the same risk of one in a million. For each one say whether you think the risk would likely be over or under estimated by an average person and support your answer using the above factors of risk perception. smoking two cigarettes drinking 30 diet sodas with saccharin eating one hundred fifty (1/2 lb) charcoal broiled steaks (aromatic hydrocarbon risk) eating one hundred, 100 gram servings of shrimp (formaldehyde risk) eating four tablespoons of peanut butter every 10 days for person without hepatitis B1 eating three hundred and fifty slices of stale bread (formaldehyde risk) drinking seventy pints of beer per year (alcohol cancer risk) exposure to typical radon levels in drinking water in California for six months drinking water with the EPA limit of arsenic (50 ppb) for three days one quarter of a typical chest X-ray non smoker exposed to average US radon level (1.5 pCi/l) for one week forty days of living in Denver (compared to Philadelphia) traveling 100 miles in a motor vehicle dying from a lightning strike in a 6 year period ] http://physics.ius.edu/~kyle/P310/Risk.html See also http://www.biology.usu.edu/courses/p...23RISK2005.pdf -- Cliff |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 08:14:49 -0600, "Ron Moore" wrote:
So what diet soda, besides fountain diet coke, uses saccharin??? I thought all were aspartame. Saccharin is thought to cause cancer? Remember Fizzies? They contained cyclamates which were banned. -- Cliff |
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What I remember about cyclamates was the dose. A rat had a 1-3% (as I
remember) increase of getting cancer when given the equivalent dosage of a human drinking 20 GALLONS of pre-sweetened Kool-Aid a day. To my thinking, cancer would not be the first concern one would have. There were rumors, at the time, of tainted studies because the sugar importers/distributors were upset. I was really upset when I could no longer get diet drinks using cyclamates. "Equal" is and was not equal to the flavor of the others, as far as I'm concerned. Recently, saccharin was determined to be harmless as a sugar substitute. Aspertame, however has many adverse side effects linked with it. Amazes me it is still available. Ron "Cliff" wrote in message ... On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 08:14:49 -0600, "Ron Moore" wrote: So what diet soda, besides fountain diet coke, uses saccharin??? I thought all were aspartame. Saccharin is thought to cause cancer? Remember Fizzies? They contained cyclamates which were banned. -- Cliff |
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![]() "Cliff" wrote in message ... I hate the trend toward Don't Run With Scissors Very, very few know how to rate real risks or what they are. Even the major ones. [ The following all have the same risk of one in a million. For each one say whether you think the risk would likely be over or under estimated by an average person and support your answer using the above factors of risk perception. And also interesting that some activities have a smaller risk of death than "Living". FRA estimate of "Living" has a death rate of about 1.53 per million hours. Flying (airline) is .15 Cycling (push bike) is .26 Automobile is .47 Some are not: Motorcycling (road) is 8.80 |
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