I unsubscribed from this group about a year ago when the signal to noise
got really low. I tried it again for awhile recently- it hasn't improved.

OT wouldn't be bad in a group with a couple of dozen posts a day, but
when we are around 250-300 a day, it is just too much work scrolling
through all the OT stuff.

Setting up kill files for every now piece of junk is even more work than
scrolling through it.

When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:38:00 -0600, Don Stauffer wrote:

(snip OT whine about OT stuff - without an OT: in the headers)

Setting up kill files for every now piece of junk is even more work than
scrolling through it.

Too bad you didn't just make a global killfile with *OT:* as a rule. Ah
well.

When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!

Door...ass...way out... you know how it goes.

According to Dave Hinz :
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:38:00 -0600, Don Stauffer wrote:

(snip OT whine about OT stuff - without an OT: in the headers)

Setting up kill files for every now piece of junk is even more work than
scrolling through it.

Too bad you didn't just make a global killfile with *OT:* as a rule. Ah
well.

*Please* -- "[OT]" instead, because (as I mentioned before),
Outlook Express takes "OT:" to be "" in another language and strips
it out before adding back "". This changes the marking in
mid-thread.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

Sorry to see you go, but I understand. I skip most of the threads
labeled OT and many of the on topic threads that have been gone over
and over previously.

Dan

wrote in message
oups.com...
Sorry to see you go, but I understand. I skip most of the threads
labeled OT and many of the on topic threads that have been gone over
and over previously.

Dan

You're missing some good stuff, Dan. It's gooder than Desperate Housewives
sometimes. High drama. And all you have to do is sit back and watch the
loonies rassle.

Steve

On 7 Feb 2006 08:18:34 -0800, " wrote:

Sorry to see you go, but I understand. I skip most of the threads
labeled OT and many of the on topic threads that have been gone over
and over previously.

Dan

I should think that Tee-Nut is turning in his grave, a much missed metalworking
poster to this group.

Peter
--
Peter & Rita Forbes
Email:
Web: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 17:28:06 +0000 (UTC), Peter A Forbes
wrote:

On 7 Feb 2006 08:18:34 -0800, " wrote:

Sorry to see you go, but I understand. I skip most of the threads
labeled OT and many of the on topic threads that have been gone over
and over previously.

Dan

I should think that Tee-Nut is turning in his grave, a much missed metalworking
poster to this group.

Peter

And Altovoz, don't forget Altovoz!

According to Peter A Forbes :
On 7 Feb 2006 08:18:34 -0800, " wrote:

Sorry to see you go, but I understand. I skip most of the threads
labeled OT and many of the on topic threads that have been gone over
and over previously.

Dan

I should think that Tee-Nut is turning in his grave,

If so -- I wonder which lathe he is using?

a much missed metalworking
poster to this group.

Amen!

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

"Don Stauffer" wrote in message
...
I unsubscribed from this group about a year ago when the signal to noise
got really low. I tried it again for awhile recently- it hasn't improved.

OT wouldn't be bad in a group with a couple of dozen posts a day, but when
we are around 250-300 a day, it is just too much work scrolling through
all the OT stuff.

Setting up kill files for every now piece of junk is even more work than
scrolling through it.

When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!

Watch out for that doorknob.

You sound like the guy who lives in a gated community. HOA rules. No
allowances for anything but strictly controlled circumstances and no ability
to deal with anything else.

Yes, there are a lot of OT things here. You're an adult. Cope. But to
read about it and then bitch is like eating a steak and sending the plate
back to the cook with a complaint.

If you can't see past the sand to see the beautiful sea, I'll see you.

Did I just say that?

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
news:S_3Gf.28652$JT.12585@fed1read06...

"Don Stauffer" wrote in message
...
I unsubscribed from this group about a year ago when the signal to noise
got really low. I tried it again for awhile recently- it hasn't improved.

OT wouldn't be bad in a group with a couple of dozen posts a day, but
when we are around 250-300 a day, it is just too much work scrolling
through all the OT stuff.

Setting up kill files for every now piece of junk is even more work than
scrolling through it.

When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!

Watch out for that doorknob.

You sound like the guy who lives in a gated community. HOA rules. No
allowances for anything but strictly controlled circumstances and no
ability to deal with anything else.

Yes, there are a lot of OT things here. You're an adult. Cope. But to
read about it and then bitch is like eating a steak and sending the plate
back to the cook with a complaint.

If you can't see past the sand to see the beautiful sea, I'll see you.

Did I just say that?

Steve

Don Stauffer mentioned:

OT wouldn't be bad in a group with a couple of dozen posts a day, but
when we are around 250-300 a day, it is just too much work scrolling
through all the OT stuff.

I sure know what you mean there Don. Why, my finger gets so sore
scrolling sometimes only beer will help the pain . Waaaaaa....

dennis
in nca

Don Stauffer wrote:
I unsubscribed from this group about a year ago when the signal to noise
got really low. I tried it again for awhile recently- it hasn't improved.

OT wouldn't be bad in a group with a couple of dozen posts a day, but
when we are around 250-300 a day, it is just too much work scrolling
through all the OT stuff.

Setting up kill files for every now piece of junk is even more work than
scrolling through it.

When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!


Sorry to see you go, and like mom and day said to me,

"Write if you find work."

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia

(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."

Irony (def): Posting to a newsgroup complaining about OT content, and
not labeling the post OT.

-D

wrote:

Irony (def): Posting to a newsgroup complaining about OT content, and
not labeling the post OT.

-D


(My) Irony (def): My mother calling me a son of a bitch.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia

(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."

Don Stauffer wrote in news:fh2Gf.4$4e6.698
@news.uswest.net:



When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!

Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya. Anyone too lazy
to get a real newsreader that can properly filter, very easily, isn't
needed anyway.

--
Anthony

You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make
better idiots.

Remove sp to reply via email

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:30:23 GMT, Anthony wrote:

Don Stauffer wrote in news:fh2Gf.4$4e6.698
:



When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!

Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya. Anyone too lazy
to get a real newsreader that can properly filter, very easily, isn't
needed anyway.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, Anthony.

You're missing the point completely.

Look at the title of the newsgroup, look at the posts to the newsgroup.

People posting completely on-topic items are completely drowned out by the OT
and unrelated posts.

You know that anyway, so I am doubtless wasting my processor time telling you,
but there was a time when rec.crafts.metalworking was one of the better
newsgroups, both for original content and for helping out newcomers to the
metalworking world.

Now it is just a jumble of folks using the group as their own personal
discussion site.

I'll have joined Don by the time you read this, so please don't expound too much
of your time by replying. I also was here 4 years or more ago and it hasn't
improved with age.

Kind regards,

Peter
--
Peter & Rita Forbes
Email:
Web: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:30:23 +0000, Anthony wrote:



Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya. Anyone too lazy
to get a real newsreader that can properly filter, very easily, isn't
needed anyway.

You just don't get it. Don's been posting great stuff since at least
1994. Let's put it this way... you are a clueless ****ing twit.

Have a good day.

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:15:30 -0600, Rastus wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:30:23 +0000, Anthony wrote:



Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya. Anyone too lazy
to get a real newsreader that can properly filter, very easily, isn't
needed anyway.

You just don't get it. Don's been posting great stuff since at least
1994.

And in all that time, it never dawned on him that there might be a
technical solution to solve his signal:noise problem? It's not like
killfiles are a secret new technology.

If a guy doesn't ask for help, and doesn't want to use basic tools to
change how a group works for him, well, ...

"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:15:30 -0600, Rastus wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:30:23 +0000, Anthony wrote:



Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya. Anyone too
lazy
to get a real newsreader that can properly filter, very easily, isn't
needed anyway.

You just don't get it. Don's been posting great stuff since at least
1994.

And in all that time, it never dawned on him that there might be a
technical solution to solve his signal:noise problem? It's not like
killfiles are a secret new technology.

If a guy doesn't ask for help, and doesn't want to use basic tools to
change how a group works for him, well, ...

Holy Jeezus Crap! You mean to tell me that newsgroups have changed since
1994?

SOMEBODY SLAP ME!

Of course this newsgroups and all of the Internet has changed since way
back. To think otherwise would be unrealistic. To think that things should
stay the same old same old is Old Fartism taken to the Nth degree. (I'm an
old retired fart who loves this new change. New tools, new ways of doing
things, new, new, new everything!)

The dinosaurs die off along the way, and the ones who survive adapt. And
old dinosaurs that at least try to change and keep up have an easier time of
it, with far less ****ing and moaning to disturb the majority.

If you can't adapt, go off in the corner and just lay there like a turd
until you die. If you can and want to adapt, welcome to the buffet. Dig in
and don't go away hungry.

Steve

Steve B wrote:

"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:15:30 -0600, Rastus wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:30:23 +0000, Anthony wrote:



Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya. Anyone too
lazy
to get a real newsreader that can properly filter, very easily, isn't
needed anyway.

You just don't get it. Don's been posting great stuff since at least
1994.

And in all that time, it never dawned on him that there might be a
technical solution to solve his signal:noise problem? It's not like
killfiles are a secret new technology.

If a guy doesn't ask for help, and doesn't want to use basic tools to
change how a group works for him, well, ...

Holy Jeezus Crap! You mean to tell me that newsgroups have changed since
1994?

SOMEBODY SLAP ME!

Of course this newsgroups and all of the Internet has changed since way
back. To think otherwise would be unrealistic. To think that things should
stay the same old same old is Old Fartism taken to the Nth degree. (I'm an
old retired fart who loves this new change. New tools, new ways of doing
things, new, new, new everything!)

The dinosaurs die off along the way, and the ones who survive adapt. And
old dinosaurs that at least try to change and keep up have an easier time of
it, with far less ****ing and moaning to disturb the majority.

If you can't adapt, go off in the corner and just lay there like a turd
until you die. If you can and want to adapt, welcome to the buffet. Dig in
and don't go away hungry.

Steve

more likely, it's the dumbing down of RCM by the likes of loudmouthed
ignorant assholes like yourself that he can't relate to.

Joe

Very well put...

Stephen R. (not an old fart, yet)

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:38:00 -0600, Don Stauffer
wrote:

I unsubscribed from this group about a year ago when the signal to noise
got really low. I tried it again for awhile recently- it hasn't improved.

OT wouldn't be bad in a group with a couple of dozen posts a day, but
when we are around 250-300 a day, it is just too much work scrolling
through all the OT stuff.

Setting up kill files for every now piece of junk is even more work than
scrolling through it.

When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!


Hey Don, and sadly if your 're serious, Peter Forbes....

Lots of us know from whence your decision comes. I've got so I can
skip over a ton of RCM "spam" pretty easy now. Maybe adds five
minutes to my day (or is that subtracts five??).

I've never looked to see if there is newsgroup for "US political
ranting and raving", but I get the feeling quite often that if there
is, the stuff we see on RCM is because the guys here couldn't actually
hack it there, and so they play out the fantasy on RCM kinda as
big-fish-in-a-little-pond sorta way

My bigger complaint is that NOBODY bothers to do a Subject: change to
keep the point current as the thread does its hop-scotch. Starts off
as =Subject: My Metalworking Dick Is Pretty Big=, and after two
replies the body veers over to who cares, or not as big as mine, then
onto the size needed for me to do YOUR wife or mother/sister, and then
off onto what cures your particular variety of STD, and carries on
along for a great while, never changing the Subject: even if it does
at some point veer back to aluminum dick-splints which I might
personally find interesting, but by now I'm skipping over the thread!!

If you do find a "better place" though, P-L-E-A-S-E do drop back and
let us know, cuz I haven't!! Sorry to see you guys go.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

"Don Stauffer" wrote in message
...
I unsubscribed from this group about a year ago when the signal to noise
got really low. I tried it again for awhile recently- it hasn't improved.

OT wouldn't be bad in a group with a couple of dozen posts a day, but
when we are around 250-300 a day, it is just too much work scrolling
through all the OT stuff.

Setting up kill files for every now piece of junk is even more work than
scrolling through it.

When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!
Bye-Bye, Don. What I don't understand is when someone gets disgusted with
the OT crap and leaves, they feel the need to make an OT announcement about
it. Why not just pull the plug and go about your business? This announcement
has about thirty posts already and the S/N ratio is worse than it was before
Don left. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT, DON! Enjoy all your new found free time.
Tom

Hey there Don, ye look for the digest option in your preferences, i get
mine in digest form, works good, one email a day, scroll through, pick
yer thread, click--no clutter.
peace
John McManamey


Don Stauffer wrote:
I unsubscribed from this group about a year ago when the signal to noise
got really low. I tried it again for awhile recently- it hasn't improved.

OT wouldn't be bad in a group with a couple of dozen posts a day, but
when we are around 250-300 a day, it is just too much work scrolling
through all the OT stuff.

Setting up kill files for every now piece of junk is even more work than
scrolling through it.

When this becomes a moderated group I'll be back. Till then, bye!

I've been lurking on here (and rarely, posting) since just after the
end of the Altavoz era, now THAT was something LOL. FWIW I felt this
group didn't weather 9/11 too well, and I bet a lot of them (groups)
didn't.

Ed Peterson
still makin chips with his G4015. (hey I know, let's have a good old
3-in-1 machine bashfest!)

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:38:00 -0600, Don Stauffer
wrote:

I unsubscribed from this group about a year ago when the signal to noise
got really low. I tried it again for awhile recently- it hasn't improved.

Signal is sometimes present, but clue rarely is.

unsubscribe too here