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9"SB Tailstock alignment problem
I have a 9" tail stock that out of horizontal alignment. I shimmed it up to
the level of the headstock to line it up. Can I replace this headstock with another or are they machined to fit each indivdual machine. |
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9"SB Tailstock alignment problem
David Rinker wrote:
I have a 9" tail stock that out of horizontal alignment. I shimmed it up to the level of the headstock to line it up. Can I replace this headstock with another or are they machined to fit each indivdual machine. Um, tailstock setover is adjustable. Do you really mean horizontal alignment? It's dead trivial, loosen the clamp bolt, loosen the setover screw on one side a little, tighten it on the other side a little, reclamp it, check it. The best way to check it is to put a 2-collar test bar between centers and turn the outside of the two collars without touching the compound or cross-slide feed screws, then measure the diameter of the collars. If they are identical, then you're done. If the tailstock collar is bigger, then the tailstock needs to slide towards you, the operator. GWE |
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9"SB Tailstock alignment problem
It's quicker and almost as accurate to clamp a dial gage or indicator
in the chuck and check the alignment of an installed center in the tailstock. It will immediately tell whether the tailstock is low or high, as well as horizontal alignment. Bugs |
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9"SB Tailstock alignment problem
"Bugs" wrote in message oups.com... It's quicker and almost as accurate to clamp a dial gage or indicator in the chuck and check the alignment of an installed center in the tailstock. It will immediately tell whether the tailstock is low or high, as well as horizontal alignment. Bugs Assuming your centers are properly ground, I still like the crude but simple method of pinning a parallel between the centers, then adjusting the tailstock to null the offset of the piece from perpendicular. Care should be taken to get it pretty close before locking the tailstock, lest you damage either the centers or the parallel bar. LLoyd |
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9"SB Tailstock alignment problem
In place of the parallel use a piece of 0.010" shimstock.
When the tailstock is aligned, the shim will be vertical and square to ways, horizontally and vertically. But that is not all! Check the alignment with the tailstock barrel retracted, and extended; this will give a good indication of parallelism of the tailstock bore with the bed and headstock (assuming the headstock is parallel to the bed). Don't forget Rollies dads method of checking twist in the bed and headstock alignment. Amazing how much fun it is to make chips with a well set up machine. Ray. "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote in message .. . "Bugs" wrote in message oups.com... It's quicker and almost as accurate to clamp a dial gage or indicator in the chuck and check the alignment of an installed center in the tailstock. It will immediately tell whether the tailstock is low or high, as well as horizontal alignment. Bugs Assuming your centers are properly ground, I still like the crude but simple method of pinning a parallel between the centers, then adjusting the tailstock to null the offset of the piece from perpendicular. Care should be taken to get it pretty close before locking the tailstock, lest you damage either the centers or the parallel bar. LLoyd |
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9"SB Tailstock alignment problem
Don't forget Rollies dads method of checking twist in the bed and
headstock alignment. Which is? |
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9"SB Tailstock alignment problem
I believe you are referring to vertical rather than horizontal alignment
since you say you "shimmed it up". I do not know but I suspect the tailstocks were matched to the headstock height since I have a 9" South Bend which has a thicker shim than would seem reasonable for wear correction. I have seen some instructions somewhere for building up the tailstock with permanent shims and re-aligning it. A major job should also involve the fit and alignment of the ram so that center-to-center alignment does not change with ram extension. Don Young "David Rinker" wrote in message news:gYgDf.1436$8U2.466@trndny06... I have a 9" tail stock that out of horizontal alignment. I shimmed it up to the level of the headstock to line it up. Can I replace this headstock with another or are they machined to fit each indivdual machine. |
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9"SB Tailstock alignment problem
Google search on "Rollies Dad's Method" will give the exact procedure. It is
a simple method of checking the headstock alignment to the bed and a check of twist in the bed. Requires a dial indicator and a reasonably straight round bar 1 to 1 1/2 inch diameter, length to suit the bed. No machining required. Ray "Don Young" wrote in message ... I believe you are referring to vertical rather than horizontal alignment since you say you "shimmed it up". I do not know but I suspect the tailstocks were matched to the headstock height since I have a 9" South Bend which has a thicker shim than would seem reasonable for wear correction. I have seen some instructions somewhere for building up the tailstock with permanent shims and re-aligning it. A major job should also involve the fit and alignment of the ram so that center-to-center alignment does not change with ram extension. Don Young "David Rinker" wrote in message news:gYgDf.1436$8U2.466@trndny06... I have a 9" tail stock that out of horizontal alignment. I shimmed it up to the level of the headstock to line it up. Can I replace this headstock with another or are they machined to fit each indivdual machine. |
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