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Hey Ed,
Next time you're up this way, com'on over and watch, and you tell me. I'm just going by what I see happening in my buddies tool and die shop. He has quite a variety,, maybe 8 EDMs, (mostly sinkers) from 24" X 36" tables and 100 gallon tanks and full manual operation, to full CNC 2500mm X 1000mm tables with 4,000 litre plus filter tanks, and 5 Axis CNC wire (can't guess at that size, but not huge). You can't see where the burn is if it's "in" the oil already. Used mostly to burn ribs in the tools. He's even got one "home-made" some years ago that was made from a big old planer, and uses the gantry for holding the hot rods. Used for big heavy tools. He tried to give me a big old Elox (Spark-O-Matic??) power cabinet, but it was right at the time I was having trouble getting all the stuff I already had to move into a trailer, and it was 575VAC, which I will sadly never have here. So I didn't take it, and I see it's gone from there now. As Gunner says.............Siiiigggghhh..............!!. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 20:52:00 GMT, "Ed Huntress" wrote: "Brian Lawson" wrote in message news ![]() On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 01:48:55 -0500, Gary Coffman wrote: BIG SNIP OF GOOD STUFF But this is all pretty much moot since EDM isn't done with arcs through a gas. It is done with arcs through a liquid. little snip Gary Hey Gary, I think this last part of your reply is not really correct. Most EDM I see is set up and started in free air. After location and some other things are adjusted to suit the operator, then the work is flooded, either by flooding the tank to immersion, or on smallish parts or small burn area just with direct flow of die-electric externally or through internal created flow ports. After the die-electirc is applied, the rate of burn is then further adjusted to the need, which seems to me to almost ALWAYS be MAX!! Ed Huntress says that the arc starts without actual physical contact, and I can't argue, but if so it sure isn't obvious. I always figured that on die-sinkers the electrode (always carbon in my cases) does touch and then retract ever so slightly, and now-a-days maintains the arc through sophisticated controls on the newer CNC EDM's. Happy New Year. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. The only reason they ever touch is to establish dimensional zeros, Brian. And that's done with the EDM power supply turned off. BTW, I've never seen an EDM started in air. The electrode has to be submerged before you start. Ed Huntress |
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