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HI ALL
I need to make a dozen ball nut adapters, requiring a 15/16 - 16 tpi internal thread first thought was a single point, small diameter rotating tool. Graduated to what was on hand a 3/8 - 16 tpi tap, then I ground off all the other flutes except for one untouched row. mounted this in a mill, did a circle command & included Z - .0625 on each pass the entire hole was threaded @ once as Z moved down 1 pitch. 8 passes later the part mates great! I always wanted to try this & now I'm enthusiastic. My question is, What other tooling besides the correct tap & what seems expensive Thread milling tool or methods do you use, I could have done this on the lathe semi manually but this would take more time as I could not just let it run & walk away. ;-) I also want to do 1/4 - 20's & 3/8 -16's but I guess that's really pushing it. Is there a recommended way? Peter |
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You can buy a 15/16-16 tap for not much money
"Peter Kiproff" wrote in message .. . HI ALL I need to make a dozen ball nut adapters, requiring a 15/16 - 16 tpi internal thread first thought was a single point, small diameter rotating tool. Graduated to what was on hand a 3/8 - 16 tpi tap, then I ground off all the other flutes except for one untouched row. mounted this in a mill, did a circle command & included Z - .0625 on each pass the entire hole was threaded @ once as Z moved down 1 pitch. 8 passes later the part mates great! I always wanted to try this & now I'm enthusiastic. My question is, What other tooling besides the correct tap & what seems expensive Thread milling tool or methods do you use, I could have done this on the lathe semi manually but this would take more time as I could not just let it run & walk away. ;-) I also want to do 1/4 - 20's & 3/8 -16's but I guess that's really pushing it. Is there a recommended way? Peter |
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suggest posting this to alt.machines.cnc
i know that they make thread mills for really small holes |
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Very innovative solution. Doing an unusual job with what is on hand
shows real use of the old gray matter. Cheers! Bugs |
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:48:01 -0500, "Peter Kiproff"
wrote: HI ALL I need to make a dozen ball nut adapters, requiring a 15/16 - 16 tpi internal thread first thought was a single point, small diameter rotating tool. Graduated to what was on hand a 3/8 - 16 tpi tap, then I ground off all the other flutes except for one untouched row. mounted this in a mill, did a circle command & included Z - .0625 on each pass the entire hole was threaded @ once as Z moved down 1 pitch. 8 passes later the part mates great! I always wanted to try this & now I'm enthusiastic. My question is, What other tooling besides the correct tap & what seems expensive Thread milling tool or methods do you use, I could have done this on the lathe semi manually but this would take more time as I could not just let it run & walk away. ;-) I also want to do 1/4 - 20's & 3/8 -16's but I guess that's really pushing it. Is there a recommended way? Peter Thread milling cutters are expensive, as you said. But you can buy thread milling inserts pretty cheap. And make your own cutter body. However, a 1/4-20 inside thread will need to be done with a cutter and not an insert. ERS |
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Hey Peter,
Does the mill have a threading option? Or how did you get the same entry point on each of 8 passes? If you were using a taper tap, why did it take so many passes? Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:48:01 -0500, "Peter Kiproff" wrote: HI ALL I need to make a dozen ball nut adapters, requiring a 15/16 - 16 tpi internal thread first thought was a single point, small diameter rotating tool. Graduated to what was on hand a 3/8 - 16 tpi tap, then I ground off all the other flutes except for one untouched row. mounted this in a mill, did a circle command & included Z - .0625 on each pass the entire hole was threaded @ once as Z moved down 1 pitch. 8 passes later the part mates great! I always wanted to try this & now I'm enthusiastic. My question is, What other tooling besides the correct tap & what seems expensive Thread milling tool or methods do you use, I could have done this on the lathe semi manually but this would take more time as I could not just let it run & walk away. ;-) I also want to do 1/4 - 20's & 3/8 -16's but I guess that's really pushing it. Is there a recommended way? Peter |
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Peter Kiproff wrote:
HI ALL I need to make a dozen ball nut adapters, requiring a 15/16 - 16 tpi internal thread first thought was a single point, small diameter rotating tool. Graduated to what was on hand a 3/8 - 16 tpi tap, then I ground off all the other flutes except for one untouched row. mounted this in a mill, did a circle command & included Z - .0625 on each pass the entire hole was threaded @ once as Z moved down 1 pitch. 8 passes later the part mates great! I always wanted to try this & now I'm enthusiastic. My question is, What other tooling besides the correct tap & what seems expensive Thread milling tool or methods do you use, I could have done this on the lathe semi manually but this would take more time as I could not just let it run & walk away. ;-) I also want to do 1/4 - 20's & 3/8 -16's but I guess that's really pushing it. Is there a recommended way? Peter Buy a _single point_ threadmill. One size will do several diameters and pitches. It just takes longer than a full profile threadmill. Fred |
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HI BRIAN
I used the G02 arc command and had it start & finish each pass on the 6 o'clock position I could have done it in less passes, but since this was my first try I wanted to trial fit as I went. One thing that also came out was the thread is always starting @ the same place, also the part I'm mating to... I can set it so the part, a ball nut, always has the return tubes pointing the same way. Peter "Brian Lawson" wrote in message ... Hey Peter, Does the mill have a threading option? Or how did you get the same entry point on each of 8 passes? If you were using a taper tap, why did it take so many passes? Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:48:01 -0500, "Peter Kiproff" wrote: HI ALL I need to make a dozen ball nut adapters, requiring a 15/16 - 16 tpi internal thread first thought was a single point, small diameter rotating tool. Graduated to what was on hand a 3/8 - 16 tpi tap, then I ground off all the other flutes except for one untouched row. mounted this in a mill, did a circle command & included Z - .0625 on each pass the entire hole was threaded @ once as Z moved down 1 pitch. 8 passes later the part mates great! I always wanted to try this & now I'm enthusiastic. My question is, What other tooling besides the correct tap & what seems expensive Thread milling tool or methods do you use, I could have done this on the lathe semi manually but this would take more time as I could not just let it run & walk away. ;-) I also want to do 1/4 - 20's & 3/8 -16's but I guess that's really pushing it. Is there a recommended way? Peter |
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On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 02:25:30 -0500, "Peter Kiproff"
wrote: HI BRIAN I used the G02 arc command and had it start & finish each pass on the 6 o'clock position I could have done it in less passes, but since this was my first try I wanted to trial fit as I went. One thing that also came out was the thread is always starting @ the same place, also the part I'm mating to... I can set it so the part, a ball nut, always has the return tubes pointing the same way. Peter Hey Peter, Good trick. Thank you. Brian |
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