My girlfriend has a machine with Win 2 K, 800 MHz. 512 mb ram, 20 gb
HD. She
let her NAV expire and now it's infected with at least 2 viruses and
will
not boot. I've tried several bootable anti virus disks but they do no
good.
apparently the viruses are newer than the AV programs.
I can get her computer to boot with Reatogo and run from the CD but
the AV
program in Reatogo is also outdated. I can get online with IE but if I
try to
run a program like Trend house call it won't work because it cannot
write
it's applet to the CD. does anyone know of an AV program that will run
just from
the internet without having to download anything?: Any better ideas?
Reformatting is a last choice as she does not have the OS disk or the
finances to
buy one, plus she does not want to lose her family pictures.
Engineman

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My girlfriend has a machine with Win 2 K, 800 MHz. 512 mb ram, 20 gb
HD. She
let her NAV expire and now it's infected with at least 2 viruses and
will
not boot. I've tried several bootable anti virus disks but they do no
good.
apparently the viruses are newer than the AV programs.
I can get her computer to boot with Reatogo and run from the CD but
the AV
program in Reatogo is also outdated. I can get online with IE but if I
try to
run a program like Trend house call it won't work because it cannot
write
it's applet to the CD. does anyone know of an AV program that will run
just from
the internet without having to download anything?: Any better ideas?
Reformatting is a last choice as she does not have the OS disk or the
finances to
buy one, plus she does not want to lose her family pictures.
Engineman



Her pics are almost certainly OK.

You can take the disk out and hook it up on the second controller
cable in a good machine (w2k or later) and copy the pic files off,
then burn them to a CD (make a couple copies and do a readback/verify)
she won't lose her picture.


If the owner of the good machine is nervious, he's not foolish. Make
sure his AV software is running and up to date before you hook up the
disk but you should be OK as long as you don't click on anything you
haven't virus scanned.

Once you've done that you can, on the same machine run virus and
spyware tools and with luck pull the bacon out of the fire. Trend
housecall is excellent. Scan for sypware at the same time.

As for AV software; AVG antivirus is *very* good and free for home use.

http://www.grisoft.com/doc/1

No hassles, no spyware, anonymous use. I've installed in on countless
machines over the last couple years.

Good luck.





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wrote:
My girlfriend has a machine with Win 2 K, 800 MHz. 512 mb ram, 20 gb
HD. She
let her NAV expire and now it's infected with at least 2 viruses and
will
not boot. I've tried several bootable anti virus disks but they do no
good.
apparently the viruses are newer than the AV programs.
I can get her computer to boot with Reatogo and run from the CD but
the AV
program in Reatogo is also outdated. I can get online with IE but if I
try to
run a program like Trend house call it won't work because it cannot
write
it's applet to the CD. does anyone know of an AV program that will run
just from
the internet without having to download anything?: Any better ideas?
Reformatting is a last choice as she does not have the OS disk or the
finances to
buy one, plus she does not want to lose her family pictures.
Engineman

You could try the following.
Go to http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2
and download the free version of AVG, install it, run it and it will
want to update itself. Let it, then do a complete scan. If it works,
you've solved the problem, if it doesn't you've lost nothing except some
net time. You don't need the CD for this.

AVG free is one of the best AV programs around, and its free for home
use, and so are all the updates.

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(To reply by email, change feet to foot in my address)

There are a number of boot disk images available on the web. You might
need to make a bootable cd that contains the driver support to see the
hard drive.

If you can see the hard disk you should be able to load and run AVG to
clean up any existing viruses. You might also download Lavasoft
Ad-aware. It picks up some of the spyware that the antivirus misses.

There is also a product called System Suite which has antivirus and
firewall. I like the firewall because it will tell you if something is
trying to communicate out of your system.

On 25 Dec 2005 12:12:43 -0800, wrote:

There are a number of boot disk images available on the web. You might
need to make a bootable cd that contains the driver support to see the
hard drive.

If you can see the hard disk you should be able to load and run AVG to
clean up any existing viruses. You might also download Lavasoft
Ad-aware. It picks up some of the spyware that the antivirus misses.

There is also a product called System Suite which has antivirus and
firewall. I like the firewall because it will tell you if something is
trying to communicate out of your system.


Trend Micro has an online virus scanner and some removers that are
free to use.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Gunner Asch wrote:

On 25 Dec 2005 12:12:43 -0800, wrote:


There are a number of boot disk images available on the web. You might
need to make a bootable cd that contains the driver support to see the
hard drive.

If you can see the hard disk you should be able to load and run AVG to
clean up any existing viruses. You might also download Lavasoft
Ad-aware. It picks up some of the spyware that the antivirus misses.

There is also a product called System Suite which has antivirus and
firewall. I like the firewall because it will tell you if something is
trying to communicate out of your system.



Trend Micro has an online virus scanner and some removers that are
free to use.

Gunner

Excellent web based one to run to check AVG hasn't missed one. I am
with the guy who said mount it up in another PC, (2nd cable, DONT
master/slave it, too many ways of getting it wrong) and grab her
documents and virus scan it. Also run a good spyware scanner on her
drive *after* the virus scan, It wont get the crud out of the registry
while its drive D but will yank the executable out from under most of
the nasties. At that point, with any luck it will boot its own box in
safe mode so copy AVG installer and updated onto it while its the second
drive and AdAware SE + its defs file (you also want also AUTORUNS from
Sysinternals in case they have trouble) and boot it up in safe mode,
install them and let them do their stuff. Autoruns can be used to kill
stuff thats blocking the antivirus and antispyware apps if its really
bad. Then Spybot S&D And/or Microsoft antispyware, leave one of them
resident for protection and cross check for no viruses on Trend Micro's
site. Full Windows Update, Rescan for spyware and preferably add a
firewall better than the SP2 one, Install Mozilla or Firefox for web
browsing and make it the default to reduce the risk of reinfection.
She'll probably still need IE for some sites but it does reduce the
number of 'driveby infections' you get.
Also Mcafee have the NAI Stinger which is a standalone virus remover.
Good if you get something AVG and Trend micro cant handle.

Dont take it away to fix, but burn the midnight oil on site. (easier to
persuade her Peer2Peer stuff is *dangerous* and needs to be closely
supervised and controlled if she sees you sweating over it) Then if it
gets seriously reinfected you have the choice of getting her a Mac or
just getting another girlfriend :-( [Extra *TOUGH* cost benefit analysis
to do there ;-) ]

Metal working content? None except for the hunk of Dead Iron the OP is
hopeing to salvage. Remember you only really own a computer if you own
the OS installer on write protected media.


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