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Floorjack - rant, update.
This past weekent was NOT a good weekend to work on my floorjack. My
wife and I are on the tail end of a divorce and, though still friendly, my detached barn/shop are really inconvenient for me. I stopped by my shop last night to check out some suggestions from the group: I closed the release valve and pumped the ram out. It looked absolutely brand new. No rust or pits at all. Of course, it's been inside all it's life. Once the ram was out, I could literally push it back in with my fingertips. You guys still think it's trash under the valve???? Or seals???? On the base of the jack, the pump is on the left. Then there is a countersunk screw with a slot in it. Next is the release valve and then to the right of the release valve is a screw with a raised phillips head. The head is about 1/16" thick and flat. Anyone know what these two screw thingys are? The release valve has a jack handle "gear" welded on it, so I can't get a socket on it. The nut is 1 1/8" and the biggest open end wrench I have is 1". Not enough room for an adjustable wrench. My best tool friend just moved up to the mountains, so I gotta find somebody to borrow a bigger wrench from. Also, the cast nut on top of the jack ( to get the ram out) is 2 1/8". Gotta figure out that one too. I do have a monster pipe wrench I guess I could use. Gunner, you mentioned you attached one of your jacks to a telephone pole to get it apart? My barn is a pole barn, so I got a built in telephone pole. May have to go that route. I know it will probably turn out cheaper in the long run, time wise, to just bite the bullet and buy a new one, but damn I'm determined to fix this one. Bill |
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Thanks for the suggestion, Jeff, but these two screws were screwed hard
into the base area with no caps of anykind attached to them. Bill |
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Floorjack - rant, update.
If you have a press it will work as a really big vise to hold the jack body
while you screw the nut off with a pipe wrench. Don Young wrote in message oups.com... This past weekent was NOT a good weekend to work on my floorjack. My wife and I are on the tail end of a divorce and, though still friendly, my detached barn/shop are really inconvenient for me. I stopped by my shop last night to check out some suggestions from the group: I closed the release valve and pumped the ram out. It looked absolutely brand new. No rust or pits at all. Of course, it's been inside all it's life. Once the ram was out, I could literally push it back in with my fingertips. You guys still think it's trash under the valve???? Or seals???? On the base of the jack, the pump is on the left. Then there is a countersunk screw with a slot in it. Next is the release valve and then to the right of the release valve is a screw with a raised phillips head. The head is about 1/16" thick and flat. Anyone know what these two screw thingys are? The release valve has a jack handle "gear" welded on it, so I can't get a socket on it. The nut is 1 1/8" and the biggest open end wrench I have is 1". Not enough room for an adjustable wrench. My best tool friend just moved up to the mountains, so I gotta find somebody to borrow a bigger wrench from. Also, the cast nut on top of the jack ( to get the ram out) is 2 1/8". Gotta figure out that one too. I do have a monster pipe wrench I guess I could use. Gunner, you mentioned you attached one of your jacks to a telephone pole to get it apart? My barn is a pole barn, so I got a built in telephone pole. May have to go that route. I know it will probably turn out cheaper in the long run, time wise, to just bite the bullet and buy a new one, but damn I'm determined to fix this one. Bill |
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Floorjack - rant, update.
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:55:14 -0500, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: wrote: This past weekent was NOT a good weekend to work on my floorjack. My wife and I are on the tail end of a divorce and, though still friendly, my detached barn/shop are really inconvenient for me. I stopped by my shop last night to check out some suggestions from the group: I closed the release valve and pumped the ram out. It looked absolutely brand new. No rust or pits at all. Of course, it's been inside all it's life. This is good - Seals and gaskets are cheap and easy, but if the ram finish is crudded up, stop right there. Getting the main ram shaft repaired and rechromed will cost more than the scrap value. Once the ram was out, I could literally push it back in with my fingertips. You guys still think it's trash under the valve???? Or seals???? On the base of the jack, the pump is on the left. Then there is a countersunk screw with a slot in it. Next is the release valve and then to the right of the release valve is a screw with a raised phillips head. The head is about 1/16" thick and flat. Anyone know what these two screw thingys are? One of them is likely to be an overpressure relief valve which keeps you from cereating more lifting force than the jack is rated for. And if there's a threaded plug with no discernable purpose, the other one might be a port off the main ram hydraulic line, for a pressure gauge to adjust the relief valve setting in the field. They more than likely use a test jig at the factory to set the relief valve, but it's possible. My kid bought a small two ton Chinese made floor jack at Pep Boys for $20 last week and it has an "extra" screw on the cylinder/pump assembly covered by a plastic cap with the words "Do Not Adjust" written on it. I assumed that must be a Pressure relief valve. There was mention of overforce protection in the jack's instruction booklet. The release valve has a jack handle "gear" welded on it, so I can't get a socket on it. The nut is 1 1/8" and the biggest open end wrench I have is 1". Not enough room for an adjustable wrench. My best tool friend just moved up to the mountains, so I gotta find somebody to borrow a bigger wrench from. Also, the cast nut on top of the jack ( to get the ram out) is 2 1/8". Gotta figure out that one too. I do have a monster pipe wrench I guess I could use. Gunner, you mentioned you attached one of your jacks to a telephone pole to get it apart? My barn is a pole barn, so I got a built in telephone pole. May have to go that route. I know it will probably turn out cheaper in the long run, time wise, to just bite the bullet and buy a new one, but damn I'm determined to fix this one. You probably need to get that release valve out, the seal at the base is most likely the source of all your trouble. I doubt the relief valve would go bad - if anything it would stick closed. Though I can see you /very/ easily wrecking the nut with an open end or Crescent wrench on it - If you can't find an 1-1/8" Flare wrench, go buy a cheap 1-1/8" combination wrench, cut a slot through the box end big enough for the release valve shaft, and make your own. And soak the nut in Kroil or 3-in-1 overnight first. On second thought, double-check that 1-1/8" - it's probably Metric. Using an inch wrench might provide just enough slop to really mangle the flats when you apply wrench pressure. -- Bruce -- -- Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545 Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net. |
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Excellent ideas, Bruce. Thanks for the reply. Bill.
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I'm pretty sure we have just turned the corner into obscurityland. If
aliens came here and read this stuff we might get downgraded from higher primate to some other life form Just go buy another f jack Keep the old one to tinker with. Its a problem with seals and not enough oil I saw somebody jack up a wholle house with little bottle jacks and put the thing on a trailer and move it down a 30 degree hill so they could build a church up there |
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