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Grant Erwin December 10th 05 07:27 PM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
Up here in the soggy Pacific NW, we don't have to shovel snow very often but we
do have lots of problems with moss on our roofs. I was out spraying Moss-Out on
my roof just now, which takes awhile, and it got me to wondering. That stuff is
basically about as much zinc as they can dissolve into water without including
anything too dangerous. And of course zinc in solution will reduce iron oxide to
iron. So I'm thinking if I had something small and precision that had rusted I'd
try just soaking the item in moss killer, might just make it shiny and clean ..
if so, that would be another trick.

Let's see, our bag of tricks include:

sandblasting
power wire brushing
pneumatic needle gun
naval jelly
vinegar and salt
various acid soaks followed by neutralizing basic soak followed by hot water
electrolytic derusting
soaking in strong solution of molasses
soaking in solution of zinc in lye
and, maybe, soaking in moss killer

did I forget any?

GWE

Peter Grey December 10th 05 08:17 PM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 



"Grant Erwin" wrote in message

Let's see, our bag of tricks include:

sandblasting
power wire brushing
pneumatic needle gun
naval jelly
vinegar and salt
various acid soaks followed by neutralizing basic soak followed by hot
water
electrolytic derusting
soaking in strong solution of molasses
soaking in solution of zinc in lye
and, maybe, soaking in moss killer

did I forget any?


Moving to Arizona?

Peter



Tom Gardner December 11th 05 01:08 AM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
Let's see, our bag of tricks include:

sandblasting
power wire brushing
pneumatic needle gun
naval jelly
vinegar and salt
various acid soaks followed by neutralizing basic soak followed by hot
water
electrolytic derusting
soaking in strong solution of molasses
soaking in solution of zinc in lye
and, maybe, soaking in moss killer

did I forget any?

GWE


You only mentioned power wire brushing once. Go to your room!



JR North December 11th 05 02:28 AM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
Don't know about you, but moss is the only thing keeping the water out
around here...
JR
Dweller in the cellatr

Grant Erwin wrote:

Up here in the soggy Pacific NW, we don't have to shovel snow very often
but we do have lots of problems with moss on our roofs. I was out
spraying Moss-Out on my roof just now, which takes awhile, and it got me
to wondering. That stuff is basically about as much zinc as they can
dissolve into water without including anything too dangerous. And of
course zinc in solution will reduce iron oxide to iron. So I'm thinking
if I had something small and precision that had rusted I'd try just
soaking the item in moss killer, might just make it shiny and clean ..
if so, that would be another trick.

Let's see, our bag of tricks include:

sandblasting
power wire brushing
pneumatic needle gun
naval jelly
vinegar and salt
various acid soaks followed by neutralizing basic soak followed by hot
water
electrolytic derusting
soaking in strong solution of molasses
soaking in solution of zinc in lye
and, maybe, soaking in moss killer

did I forget any?

GWE



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daniel peterman December 11th 05 02:38 AM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
Become one with the moss...


Gunner Asch December 11th 05 12:15 PM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:38:33 -0800, (daniel
peterman) wrote:

Become one with the moss...



May the Moss be with you.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Larry Jaques December 11th 05 12:58 PM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:15:31 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner
Asch quickly quoth:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:38:33 -0800, (daniel
peterman) wrote:

Become one with the moss...


Aummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


May the Moss be with you.


Wasn't Mosses the guy who presented the 15, oops, 10 Commandments a
long, long time ago in a place far, far away?

Gimme a Kate Moss any day.


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http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Design
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Gunner Asch December 11th 05 10:45 PM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:58:09 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:15:31 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner
Asch quickly quoth:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:38:33 -0800, (daniel
peterman) wrote:

Become one with the moss...


Aummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


May the Moss be with you.


Wasn't Mosses the guy who presented the 15, oops, 10 Commandments a
long, long time ago in a place far, far away?

Gimme a Kate Moss any day.


Lastest horror flick from the NW..

Children of the Moss


Gunner



--------------------------------------------
Proud (occasional) maker of Hungarian Paper Towels.
http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Design
================================================= =====


"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Grant Erwin December 11th 05 11:32 PM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:58:09 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:15:31 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner
Asch quickly quoth:


On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:38:33 -0800, (daniel
peterman) wrote:


Become one with the moss...


Aummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.



May the Moss be with you.


Wasn't Mosses the guy who presented the 15, oops, 10 Commandments a
long, long time ago in a place far, far away?

Gimme a Kate Moss any day.



Lastest horror flick from the NW..

Children of the Moss


Remember the Robeto Duran Sugar Ray Leonard fights back in the early '80s?

NO MOSS .. NO MAS .. NO MOSS !!!

GWE

pyotr filipivich December 12th 05 03:16 AM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
You take one lousy week off to join Thorax at the Elvis concert, and this
is what happens: Gunner Asch writes on Sun, 11 Dec
2005 22:45:09 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:58:09 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:15:31 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner
Asch quickly quoth:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:38:33 -0800, (daniel
peterman) wrote:

Become one with the moss...


Aummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


May the Moss be with you.


Wasn't Mosses the guy who presented the 15, oops, 10 Commandments a
long, long time ago in a place far, far away?

Gimme a Kate Moss any day.


Lastest horror flick from the NW..

Children of the Moss


Moss Isley; never will you find a more wretched hive of scum ...

Hmmm, so could this be the real secret behind the success of the
Mossberg shotguns?


tschus
pyotr




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It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Gunner Asch December 12th 05 08:48 AM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:32:20 -0800, Grant Erwin
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:58:09 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:15:31 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner
Asch quickly quoth:


On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:38:33 -0800, (daniel
peterman) wrote:


Become one with the moss...

Aummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.



May the Moss be with you.

Wasn't Mosses the guy who presented the 15, oops, 10 Commandments a
long, long time ago in a place far, far away?

Gimme a Kate Moss any day.



Lastest horror flick from the NW..

Children of the Moss


Remember the Robeto Duran Sugar Ray Leonard fights back in the early '80s?

NO MOSS .. NO MAS .. NO MOSS !!!

GWE



Portland rock band...

Moss Zepplin



Gunner

"those societies which accept
shoddiness in their philosophers because it is considered an exalted
activity, and tolerates shoddiness from their plumbers because it is
considered a humble activity, is in trouble. Neither it's pipes nor
it's theories will hold water."

Rex B December 12th 05 09:57 PM

an idea for another way to deal with rust
 
Grant Erwin wrote:
Up here in the soggy Pacific NW, we don't have to shovel snow very often
but we do have lots of problems with moss on our roofs. I was out
spraying Moss-Out on my roof just now, which takes awhile, and it got me
to wondering. That stuff is basically about as much zinc as they can
dissolve into water without including anything too dangerous. And of
course zinc in solution will reduce iron oxide to iron. So I'm thinking
if I had something small and precision that had rusted I'd try just
soaking the item in moss killer, might just make it shiny and clean ..
if so, that would be another trick.

Let's see, our bag of tricks include:

sandblasting
power wire brushing
pneumatic needle gun
naval jelly
vinegar and salt
various acid soaks followed by neutralizing basic soak followed by hot
water
electrolytic derusting
soaking in strong solution of molasses
soaking in solution of zinc in lye
and, maybe, soaking in moss killer

did I forget any?


Product called Evaporust.
Works like Electrolytic with no electricity, no mess.
Retail about $15 - $18/gallon if you can find it.
Reusable until you can't stand it.
Doesn't harm paint or plating, except really old, cheap paint.
Septic safe when done.

If you have something valuable or precision that is rusted, this is THE
best solution (no pun intended. really)
I have some machine jack spacers (I think that's what they are) that
will get dunked next time I'm at the shop.

No finacial interest, just a satisfied user who gave away my last sample
15 minutes ago and is trying to get my employer to stock it.

Rex B


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