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I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is
between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. In any case I mention it to see if there might be some link between my shop work and the high levels of iron. ????? It is a hereditary disease or may be brought on by consuming to much Iron. I always liked grapes. (^: I have always used a dust mask when buffing.???? Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Candidly I am hoping that someone just misplaced a decimal in my test reading. I will know better after I see the medical specialist that my GP is sending me to. Any thoughts?? Some links http://www.ironoverload.org/facts.html http://www.ironoverload.org/treatment.html http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...625genome1.asp |
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Any thoughts??
If this were the 15th century, the barber would be in charge of your bloodletting. |
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There was something on PBS just yesterday about that. As you get older
the iron level increases and therefore carries to much oxygen causing faster deterioration of tissue and faster aging. Look at the bright side. I think your blood may be recyclable. A man in our office had the same problem. Gave blood every week for two years. Now he has built up so much credit with the hospital blood bank that everyone in his family can have unlimited free transfusions. Two pints a week sounds like an awfull lot though. Hope you can afford a lot of steaks. Bill Darby wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. In any case I mention it to see if there might be some link between my shop work and the high levels of iron. ????? It is a hereditary disease or may be brought on by consuming to much Iron. I always liked grapes. (^: I have always used a dust mask when buffing.???? Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Candidly I am hoping that someone just misplaced a decimal in my test reading. I will know better after I see the medical specialist that my GP is sending me to. Any thoughts?? Some links http://www.ironoverload.org/facts.html http://www.ironoverload.org/treatment.html http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...625genome1.asp -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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Glenn Ashmore wrote:
There was something on PBS just yesterday about that. As you get older the iron level increases and therefore carries to much oxygen causing faster deterioration of tissue and faster aging. Look at the bright side. I think your blood may be recyclable. A man in our office had the same problem. Gave blood every week for two years. Now he has built up so much credit with the hospital blood bank that everyone in his family can have unlimited free transfusions. Two pints a week sounds like an awfull lot though. Hope you can afford a lot of steaks. What's wrong with black pudding? Stay green... |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby
wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. snip Sounds like polycythemia -- too many red cells. blood viscosity increases until your heart can't pump it any more and you succumb to a stroke or circulatory disease of some sort. Sometimes not even detected in an autopsy. My mother had it for years, with excess red cells being periodically removed by simply taking blood out. I'm not certain about your condition, but polycythemia is believed to be a malfunction of the spleen, whose function it is to remove excess red blood cells from the bloodstream. Al Moore |
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Thanks Glenn (and the other guys)
Yea it did sound a little medieval to me as well. Blood letting and all that. 52 holes in each arm each year. Makes me shiver just to think of it. Well whatever!! We'll see. Bill Glenn Ashmore wrote: There was something on PBS just yesterday about that. As you get older the iron level increases and therefore carries to much oxygen causing faster deterioration of tissue and faster aging. Look at the bright side. I think your blood may be recyclable. A man in our office had the same problem. Gave blood every week for two years. Now he has built up so much credit with the hospital blood bank that everyone in his family can have unlimited free transfusions. Two pints a week sounds like an awfull lot though. Hope you can afford a lot of steaks. Bill Darby wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. In any case I mention it to see if there might be some link between my shop work and the high levels of iron. ????? It is a hereditary disease or may be brought on by consuming to much Iron. I always liked grapes. (^: I have always used a dust mask when buffing.???? Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Candidly I am hoping that someone just misplaced a decimal in my test reading. I will know better after I see the medical specialist that my GP is sending me to. Any thoughts?? Some links http://www.ironoverload.org/facts.html http://www.ironoverload.org/treatment.html http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...625genome1.asp -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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It was comon in England during medieval times for the Lord or Lady of
the manor to collect a couple of pints of water from the local smithy's quench tank, usually collected after the weekend after everything had settled, supposed to be an excelent source of iron!. Al . |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:48:35 -0500, Bill Darby
wrote: Thanks Glenn (and the other guys) Yea it did sound a little medieval to me as well. Blood letting and all that. 52 holes in each arm each year. Makes me shiver just to think of it. Well whatever!! We'll see. Bill Buy a leech ___ Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby
wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. In any case I mention it to see if there might be some link between my shop work and the high levels of iron. ????? It is a hereditary disease or may be brought on by consuming to much Iron. I always liked grapes. (^: I have always used a dust mask when buffing.???? Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Candidly I am hoping that someone just misplaced a decimal in my test reading. I will know better after I see the medical specialist that my GP is sending me to. Any thoughts?? My dad worked in an iron foundry, feeding the blast furnace for several years. He had to quit because of the same problem. Blood iron level went through the roof. Some links http://www.ironoverload.org/facts.html http://www.ironoverload.org/treatment.html http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...625genome1.asp |
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Bill Darby wrote:
I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. In any case I mention it to see if there might be some link between my shop work and the high levels of iron. ????? It is a hereditary disease or may be brought on by consuming to much Iron. I always liked grapes. (^: I have always used a dust mask when buffing.???? Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Candidly I am hoping that someone just misplaced a decimal in my test reading. I will know better after I see the medical specialist that my GP is sending me to. Any thoughts?? Some links http://www.ironoverload.org/facts.html http://www.ironoverload.org/treatment.html http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...625genome1.asp i dont think the steel you are grinding would do it??? but if it was lead then you might have a problem with lead dust showing up in your blood... and yes they do make mistakes at the labs... have your doctor draw some new blood and send it out or have him do it in his office... sounds kinda a bad reading to me...... |
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Can you just imagine the size of that bugger John!: One quart per week. 52 per
year, times three makes it just about a barrel. One big MF leech. On the bright side: If the indians ever catch me,, they'll never be able to make a canoe out of me. (^: Bill John Stevenson wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:48:35 -0500, Bill Darby wrote: Thanks Glenn (and the other guys) Yea it did sound a little medieval to me as well. Blood letting and all that. 52 holes in each arm each year. Makes me shiver just to think of it. Well whatever!! We'll see. Bill Buy a leech ___ Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. |
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Thanks Clare
Not sure what the culprit is. I mill a little steel but the last couple of years has been almost exclusively aluminum. How did your Pop make out? Bill clare, @, snyder.on, .ca wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. In any case I mention it to see if there might be some link between my shop work and the high levels of iron. ????? It is a hereditary disease or may be brought on by consuming to much Iron. I always liked grapes. (^: I have always used a dust mask when buffing.???? Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Candidly I am hoping that someone just misplaced a decimal in my test reading. I will know better after I see the medical specialist that my GP is sending me to. Any thoughts?? My dad worked in an iron foundry, feeding the blast furnace for several years. He had to quit because of the same problem. Blood iron level went through the roof. Some links http://www.ironoverload.org/facts.html http://www.ironoverload.org/treatment.html http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...625genome1.asp |
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jim wrote: Bill Darby wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. In any case I mention it to see if there might be some link between my shop work and the high levels of iron. ????? It is a hereditary disease or may be brought on by consuming to much Iron. I always liked grapes. (^: I have always used a dust mask when buffing.???? Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Candidly I am hoping that someone just misplaced a decimal in my test reading. I will know better after I see the medical specialist that my GP is sending me to. Any thoughts?? Some links http://www.ironoverload.org/facts.html http://www.ironoverload.org/treatment.html http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...625genome1.asp i dont think the steel you are grinding would do it??? but if it was lead then you might have a problem with lead dust showing up in your blood... and yes they do make mistakes at the labs... have your doctor draw some new blood and send it out or have him do it in his office... sounds kinda a bad reading to me...... I do very little grinding Jim. None in the winter and in the summer, only when I can open my garage door wide. God forbid I should have a lead problem and yes I sure am (I won't say praying.) (But close to it!) hoping that there was a mistake. Bill |
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Fdmorrison wrote: jim i dont think the steel you are grinding would do it??? but if it was lead then you might have a problem with lead dust showing up in your blood... and yes they do make mistakes at the labs... have your doctor draw some new blood and send it out or have him do it in his office... sounds kinda a bad reading to me...... Yes, they do make mistakes. When my son was small he had a positive lead test. It took about a month of feeling like a criminal before new testing said "nope." Best luck to Bill. Frank Morrison Tks Frank .... A terrible feeling to think you could, in some way, have hurt your own kids. I can understand your joy in getting the "nope". Bill |
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My wife was a SICU nurse and a nursing supervisor for years and you would not
believe the stories she tells. Do not believe any test if it is out of the norm, have the test run again, and if in doubt have it run a third time. Then you will be faced with the problem of picking between three different sets of results! The worst story was of a brain operation that was done on the wrong person and on the wrong side of the head because the X ray was for the wrong person and was read turned over... I hope there was an error on your test, and if not, you seem ready to deal with the problem, hang in there! Rick |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:05:52 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote: There was something on PBS just yesterday about that. As you get older the iron level increases and therefore carries to much oxygen causing faster deterioration of tissue and faster aging. Look at the bright side. I think your blood may be recyclable. A man in our office had the same problem. Gave blood every week for two years. Now he has built up so much credit with the hospital blood bank that everyone in his family can have unlimited free transfusions. Two pints a week sounds like an awfull lot though. Hope you can afford a lot of steaks. Isn't the point of eating the steaks to build up the iron in the blood? I don't know so I'm asking. If that's the case seems like he ought to become a vegetarian. Yuk. Sue |
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Sue wrote: Isn't the point of eating the steaks to build up the iron in the blood? I don't know so I'm asking. If that's the case seems like he ought to become a vegetarian. Yuk. Sue You are probably right but two pints is a heck of a lot of blood. I am a fairly big dude but if you drained a quart out of me I think I would probably look like an albino prune. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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Rhbuxton wrote: My wife was a SICU nurse and a nursing supervisor for years and you would not believe the stories she tells. Do not believe any test if it is out of the norm, have the test run again, and if in doubt have it run a third time. Then you will be faced with the problem of picking between three different sets of results! The worst story was of a brain operation that was done on the wrong person and on the wrong side of the head because the X ray was for the wrong person and was read turned over... I hope there was an error on your test, and if not, you seem ready to deal with the problem, hang in there! Rick Thanks Rick I understand very well what you are saying and I also hope there was an error. A bloody great colossal error. In any case the best I can figure is that it's a fail-safe type of situation. I "assume" that each time they drain a pint out they check it's iron level in order to know what progress is being made. So it should not be long until they can build a picture from the accumulated test of what's going on. Bill |
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Glenn Ashmore wrote:
There was something on PBS just yesterday about that. As you get older the iron level increases and therefore carries to much oxygen causing faster deterioration of tissue and faster aging. I got interested in vitamins and supplements after my experiences a couple of years ago, and was interested to learn that a good mens vitamin pill does not have iron in it. In fact it is recommended that males do not take any iron supplement, unless they have a demonstrated iron deficiency. Women, because of their monthly blood loss, benefit from taking iron. Fitch |
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Bill Darby wrote:
I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. Don't drink any water, your joints will rust into immobility. G Fitch |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby
wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) I don't like to use the word vegetarian, but I haven't eaten red meat in nearly 35 years. My iron level is just above the lower level of acceptability. Of course, diet is only one of many factors.... It does seem like blood letting is a rather invasive solution to excess iron. I think I'd get a 2nd opinion. |
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"Fitch R. Williams" wrote: Bill Darby wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. Don't drink any water, your joints will rust into immobility. G Fitch Ah Ha Fitch!!!!!!!! Been doing that for a very long while. I won't even need to be embalmed. VBG also Bill |
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Mickey Feldman wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) I don't like to use the word vegetarian, but I haven't eaten red meat in nearly 35 years. My iron level is just above the lower level of acceptability. Of course, diet is only one of many factors.... It does seem like blood letting is a rather invasive solution to excess iron. I think I'd get a 2nd opinion. Thanks Mickey That's an angle I had not considered. I have been doing the Atkins diet for about three years and I live on meat. I wonder???? Bill |
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Bill Darby wrote:
I "assume" that each time they drain a pint out they check it's iron level in order to know what progress is being made. Bill, Where the medical community is concerned, don't assume anything. The hand on the tiller of your medical care is yours. If you don't have a grip on it, its slapping in the cockpit. You appear in a doctor's life when he/she picks up your chart, and fade a few milliseconds after they drop it back in the slot. Then they pick up the next chart .... Fitch |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:33:07 -0500, Bill Darby
wrote: Thanks Clare Not sure what the culprit is. I mill a little steel but the last couple of years has been almost exclusively aluminum. How did your Pop make out? He turns 75 on Sunday. Legs aren't what they used to be - Lungs either. A touch of Farmer's Lung (though at first it was heart trouble) and diabetic - but on the whole doing well. He's buried 2 wives, and is happliy married to the third. My mother died at 62 of Cancer, and his second wife at 67 or so of Lukemia. (interesting - my mother's maiden name was Eileen Bauman. Third wife was Irene Bauman - no relation) Bill clare, @, snyder.on, .ca wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. In any case I mention it to see if there might be some link between my shop work and the high levels of iron. ????? It is a hereditary disease or may be brought on by consuming to much Iron. I always liked grapes. (^: I have always used a dust mask when buffing.???? Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Candidly I am hoping that someone just misplaced a decimal in my test reading. I will know better after I see the medical specialist that my GP is sending me to. Any thoughts?? My dad worked in an iron foundry, feeding the blast furnace for several years. He had to quit because of the same problem. Blood iron level went through the roof. Some links http://www.ironoverload.org/facts.html http://www.ironoverload.org/treatment.html http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...625genome1.asp |
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Fitch R. Williams wrote: (clip) The hand on the tiller of your medical care is yours. If you don't have a grip on it, its slapping in the cockpit. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^ Prior to a recent surgery I was encouraged to deposit two units of blood. This was handled in a Red Cross office in the Kaiser Foundation Hospital. I was very impressed with their care in maintaining control over the whole sequence. I was required to bring in a document with my social security number on it. Prior to each "sitting" they drew my blood and ran it through a centrifuge. Each time any paper or the blood itself changed hands, they read the identification information to each other. I'm not suggesting that you should stop paying attention, but let's give the medical community a fair shake. |
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Bill Darby wrote:
I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) Two pints a week? That doesn't sound right. When I was a blood donor, I was only allowed to donate a pint a of whole blood once every eight weeks? (http://www.bloodbook.com/donr-requir.html). I was allowed to be a pheresis donor (platelet donor) on a much higher frequency. They always gave me lots of orange juice to drink afterwards, and suggested I drink much more to replace the blood volume quickly. Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby
wrote: Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Just think..you can get your Red Cross 5 Gallon Doner license plate frame ahead of schedule. Gunner "Guns aren't toys. They're for family protection, hunting dangerous or delicious animals, and keeping the King of England out of your face." -- Krusty the Clown, "The Simpsons" |
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Hey Bill,
Hmmmm to your Hmmmm. I've been doing the Atkins for well over two years. My Type 2 diabetes disappeared and my cholesterol is back to normal and I've lost over 80 pounds, although there is always a two or three pound weight reversal at any Holiday time, with now being no exception!! But your thoughts are interesting and well worth considering I think, and I'll ask my Doctor if she will include an iron levels test with my semi-annual blood work which is due again soon. I've already got her to tick the little check box for the PSA each time, due to Fitch's "Happy Christmas" tale of two years back. The PSA lab test is an extra not covered by OHIP, but well worth the $25 for peace of mind. Thanks for the heads-up on all this too. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:59:25 -0500, Bill Darby wrote: Mickey Feldman wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) I don't like to use the word vegetarian, but I haven't eaten red meat in nearly 35 years. My iron level is just above the lower level of acceptability. Of course, diet is only one of many factors.... It does seem like blood letting is a rather invasive solution to excess iron. I think I'd get a 2nd opinion. Thanks Mickey That's an angle I had not considered. I have been doing the Atkins diet for about three years and I live on meat. I wonder???? Bill |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby
wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) I have heard of people with your condition tripping metal detectors in airports. Don't know if it is true. Regards, Boris Mohar Got Knock? - see: Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/ Aurora, Ontario |
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"Leo Lichtman" wrote:
Prior to a recent surgery I was encouraged to deposit two units of blood. This was handled in a Red Cross office in the Kaiser Foundation Hospital. I love Kaiser. If there was a Kaiser in PA where I'm moving, I'd sign up and not look back. Did the same thing at their blood center just off Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills. They were equally careful. And they did a wonderful job treating my prostate cancer. I'd recommend Dr. Winter at the Kaiser Panorama Hospital to anybody needing a prostate cancer operation. The guy is world class. But the first one that figured out I had it was me when I had an independent check run by an outside doctor, not them. Once I got to Dr. Winter, I was in good hands. So I'll stand by my statement - you have a medical problem, you become an expert on it. Do the research, hurt your head with books and thought, ask lots and lots of questions, get a second and maybe a third opinion. Put your hand on the tiller of your health care, nobody else cares about it as much as you do. Fitch |
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Just want to shoot a one liner out to you all for your comments and help. It's
also getting to be that time of the year so I would love to wish you all a Merry Christmas and the best in the new year. Bill .... bill for short! "Fitch R. Williams" wrote: "Leo Lichtman" wrote: Prior to a recent surgery I was encouraged to deposit two units of blood. This was handled in a Red Cross office in the Kaiser Foundation Hospital. I love Kaiser. If there was a Kaiser in PA where I'm moving, I'd sign up and not look back. Did the same thing at their blood center just off Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills. They were equally careful. And they did a wonderful job treating my prostate cancer. I'd recommend Dr. Winter at the Kaiser Panorama Hospital to anybody needing a prostate cancer operation. The guy is world class. But the first one that figured out I had it was me when I had an independent check run by an outside doctor, not them. Once I got to Dr. Winter, I was in good hands. So I'll stand by my statement - you have a medical problem, you become an expert on it. Do the research, hurt your head with books and thought, ask lots and lots of questions, get a second and maybe a third opinion. Put your hand on the tiller of your health care, nobody else cares about it as much as you do. Fitch |
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Bill Darby wrote: Rhbuxton wrote: My wife was a SICU nurse and a nursing supervisor for years and you would not believe the stories she tells. Do not believe any test if it is out of the norm, have the test run again, and if in doubt have it run a third time. Then you will be faced with the problem of picking between three different sets of results! The worst story was of a brain operation that was done on the wrong person and on the wrong side of the head because the X ray was for the wrong person and was read turned over... I hope there was an error on your test, and if not, you seem ready to deal with the problem, hang in there! Rick Thanks Rick I understand very well what you are saying and I also hope there was an error. A bloody great colossal error. In any case the best I can figure is that it's a fail-safe type of situation. I "assume" that each time they drain a pint out they check it's iron level in order to know what progress is being made. So it should not be long until they can build a picture from the accumulated test of what's going on. Bill I second Ricks opinion, and wish to caution you on "assuming" anything. Perhaps it is just me and my limited experiences finding myself in the hospital all on my own and having to be both the patient and advocate. Don't assume anything. It is your body and your health. You get to decide how things go down. The doctor is the expert (but remember experts range from really really good to how did this guy graduate) and you have to let them do their job, but you do get a say in things. If a test comes back slightly irregular and they want to start doing all kinds of things really quick, you should be asking why. What does the test measure? What do the numbers mean? What happens if you do nothing for a week or two? Could it change on its own? How about a retest in two weeks to see if it was a fluke? If he has a good reason why this is an issue that has to attended to now, then he better explain it to you. A test that is an order of magnitude off should (in my opinion) get a retest no matter what. When you leave the office, you read. See what there is out there on the problem or condition. There are groups for everything today, so you should be able to find people that have been there and done that before. You will probably find the range that have done nothing and know what comes of it and those that did everything and what comes of it. Now that you have some idea of what you are dealing with, go ask questions. If something looks out of the ordinary, ask why he chose the approach he is taking. If you aren't satisfied, get a second opinion. If it is a big enough deal, get one anyway. I am by my nature a difficult patient since I won't just sit there and let them do whatever they want. I want to know what they are going to do, why they are doing it, what to expect, and so on. When I was in the hospital for a really nasty kidney infection, I was getting no information from anyone. No one would tell me what tests came back and how they turned out. No one would tell me how long I could expect to be in the hospital, no one was talking to me. I ended up telling the nurse that she had two options, find a doctor to talk to me, or get the papers ready as I was leaving ADA. That finally got a doctor to talk to me and explain why I shouldn't leave. Finally I started to get some answers and understand my condition (really really nasty antibiotic resistant strain of bacteria). Yes I was a pain (I did apologize to the nurses for being such a pain) but I wasn't about to sit there an let people I don't know do things to my body for reasons I don't know. It's your life, take some interest in it while you have it. -- Joe -- Joseph M. Krzeszewski Mechanical Engineering and stuff Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet |
OT Interesting report on my blood work
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OT Interesting report on my blood work
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:29:41 -0500, Bill Darby
wrote: I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. If left untreated it kills you and the treatment is to drain away normally two pints of blood per week for from six months to three years or until the level is reduced to 10. (This info is from the attached links.) May sound like a bummer but I think it's very fortunate that my doctor, acting on a hunch, decided to test for iron. Many do not find out until Quincy is doing the autopsy. In any case I mention it to see if there might be some link between my shop work and the high levels of iron. ????? It is a hereditary disease or may be brought on by consuming to much Iron. I always liked grapes. (^: I have always used a dust mask when buffing.???? Anyway it's a heads up to you. I do not look forward to draining out two pints of blood every week for years but it's better then the alternative. Candidly I am hoping that someone just misplaced a decimal in my test reading. I will know better after I see the medical specialist that my GP is sending me to. Any thoughts?? Some links http://www.ironoverload.org/facts.html http://www.ironoverload.org/treatment.html http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...625genome1.asp My neighbor is a certified Med Tech who sells lab equipment. His father had this condition for nearly 20 years. I told him of your lab results. His first suggestion was to get second and third tests at independent different labs. The horror stories he tells will shake your confidence in any lab tests. He also wondered it they were draining 2 pints weekly, were they returning the plasma? |
OT Interesting report on my blood work
Bill,
In 1998 there was a tremendous amount of discussion (and recommendations for testing) about this issue on most of the Celtic internet sites where it was referred to as the "Celtic Curse". Those of us with ancestry from Ireland, Wales, Scotland, or Great Britain (England) are at high risk. The risk is an inherited blood disorder called hemochromatosis (an inability of the body to process its iron stores). Information about this can be found at the American Hemochromatosis Society http://www.americanhs.org/celtic.htm . Take care of yourself and keep us posted. Terry "Bill Darby" wrote in message ... I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. |
OT Interesting report on my blood work
Thanks Terry
That's an interesting link with lots of good background. It's kind of funny how some otherwise very dull subjects, can suddenly become very very interesting. (^: Bill Terry Ogletree wrote: Bill, In 1998 there was a tremendous amount of discussion (and recommendations for testing) about this issue on most of the Celtic internet sites where it was referred to as the "Celtic Curse". Those of us with ancestry from Ireland, Wales, Scotland, or Great Britain (England) are at high risk. The risk is an inherited blood disorder called hemochromatosis (an inability of the body to process its iron stores). Information about this can be found at the American Hemochromatosis Society http://www.americanhs.org/celtic.htm . Take care of yourself and keep us posted. Terry "Bill Darby" wrote in message ... I was told today that the iron level in my blood was to high. Normal is between 10 and 80 units and mine was up to 1180. |
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