Exactly what *did* you do at the home desperate when the guy cheated
with the pipe fittings?

We gotta know!

Jim


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"jim rozen" wrote in message
...
Exactly what *did* you do at the home desperate when the guy cheated
with the pipe fittings?

We gotta know!

Jim

Sorry you missed it, Jim. If you'll go to the original post and read my
response to Gary Hallenbeck, it explains my actions, and my rationale..

I'd appreciate your comments, Jim.

Harold

"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"jim rozen" wrote in message
...
Exactly what *did* you do at the home desperate when the guy cheated
with the pipe fittings?

We gotta know!

Jim

Sorry you missed it, Jim. If you'll go to the original post and read my
response to Gary Hallenbeck, it explains my actions, and my rationale..

I'd appreciate your comments, Jim.

Harold

Way strange. I didn't get your reply either so I went to google and looked
up the thread and it only has one post by you in all the 44 posts in that
thread. Not doubting you replied .. I just can't find it
I would probably have just mentioned to the clerk that she had only rung up
half the purchase. I have had poor luck trying to correct things like that.
Glen

Glenn wrote:
"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"jim rozen" wrote in message
...

Exactly what *did* you do at the home desperate when the guy cheated
with the pipe fittings?

We gotta know!

Jim

Sorry you missed it, Jim. If you'll go to the original post and read my
response to Gary Hallenbeck, it explains my actions, and my rationale..

I'd appreciate your comments, Jim.

Harold


Way strange. I didn't get your reply either so I went to google and looked
up the thread and it only has one post by you in all the 44 posts in that
thread. Not doubting you replied .. I just can't find it
I would probably have just mentioned to the clerk that she had only rung up
half the purchase. I have had poor luck trying to correct things like that.
Glen


Unlike email, which is essentially guaranteed delivery, newsgroups are
definitely NOT guaranteed delivery. If the server is too busy, it just
throws messages away!

Jon

Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:

Not only did Jim miss it, but so did I and so did Google, Harold .. are you sure
you didn't send that reply to Gary via email?

GWE

"jim rozen" wrote in message
...

Exactly what *did* you do at the home desperate when the guy cheated
with the pipe fittings?

We gotta know!

Jim


Sorry you missed it, Jim. If you'll go to the original post and read my
response to Gary Hallenbeck, it explains my actions, and my rationale..

I'd appreciate your comments, Jim.

Harold

In article ,
Grant Erwin wrote:

Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:

Not only did Jim miss it, but so did I and so did Google, Harold .. are you
sure
you didn't send that reply to Gary via email?

GWE

"jim rozen" wrote in message
...

Exactly what *did* you do at the home desperate when the guy cheated
with the pipe fittings?

We gotta know!

Jim


Sorry you missed it, Jim. If you'll go to the original post and read my
response to Gary Hallenbeck, it explains my actions, and my rationale..

I'd appreciate your comments, Jim.

Harold



I'll third that... I'm seeing no trace of it anywhere either, yet my
news server is saying that it has almost 11K (10763 as I type this)
posts available in this group.

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or the subject of the message doesn't contain the exact text "PopperAndShadow"
somewhere, any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my
ever knowing it arrived. Sorry... http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd for more info

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:50:23 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
Grant Erwin quickly quoth:

Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:

Not only did Jim miss it, but so did I and so did Google, Harold .. are you sure
you didn't send that reply to Gary via email?

I just reviewed all 51 responses on Google and missed it, too.

OK, Harold. Back away from that bottle of Ouzo and...



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become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by
an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people.
But if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who
among us has the capacity to govern someone else?
All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the
burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one
group singled out to pay a higher price.

-President Ronald Reagan
First Inaugural Address
Tuesday, January 20, 1981

In article , Harold and Susan Vordos says...

We gotta know!

Sorry you missed it, Jim. If you'll go to the original post and read my
response to Gary Hallenbeck, it explains my actions, and my rationale..

I'd appreciate your comments, Jim.

Looks like newsguy shows Gary H's comments, but no
follow-up to him from you. It may be just stuck
in the works, only to pop out by morning.

Jim


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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote: Sorry you missed it, Jim. If you'll go
to the original post and read my response to Gary Hallenbeck, it explains my
actions, and my rationale..
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Harold, why don't you just TELL us what you did?

"Leo Lichtman" wrote:
Harold, why don't you just TELL us what you did?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Harold wrote:
Leo,

I've posted what I did on three different threads in the hope it's getting
out. Apparently my ISP is having problems. I responded five time to my
original post, plus various comments on other posts, all of which show on my
computer, but none show on Google.

I'm copying, below, what I posted originally. It was in response to a post
by Gary Hallenbeck. If you can't find it on RCM under a post titled
Harold's response to the dilemma, would you please post it, with my
permission? There's nothing more I can do until Monday, when TDS has the
proper staff on hand to address the problem, which is ongoing with them.
I've had considerable trouble with them for the past year. May be time
for a new ISP.

Thanks,

Harold

Not being an employee, yet not wanting to see anyone pull that kind of crap,
I said nothing until he walked out of the store. We were almost directly in
front of the exit, so he was gone in seconds, but I had observed enough to
know that if they wanted to contact him, they could. I simply told the
clerk that she had just given away half of what the customer chose, and
explained to her how she did it. I did not want to confront the buyer, for
it was not my business and I didn't feel a need for a personal
confrontation. I'm too old for that. I did what any *responsible* person
would do, I notified those that should be involved.

Do I know I'm right? Yeah----I do. Regardless of how it happened, the
ells had connectors on the end. I know this because the ells had a formed
spigot on the other end, so it was obvious the connector had been added.
If the guy was smart enough to buy them, he was, likewise, smart enough to
know that he had two pieces, not just one. He was also aware that he was
not paying for both pieces, for he stood there and watched her scan each
item, sometimes more than once when the scanner didn't "see" it on the first
pass. As a person that wouldn't have done the same thing, I couldn't
believe my eyes as he stood there without saying anything.

The clerk assured me that he was working on the new restaurant going in
across the street, and was in the store regularly for provisions. Dunno if
they know one another aside from their store relationship, nor do I care.
She wasn't a looker, in fact not the type you'd have for something on the
side, at least not in my estimation. Based on that, I don't know that they
weren't working as a team, but I'd suggest they were not. She didn't
address him by name.

When I got home, I placed a call to the store and requested top level
management, wanting to let them know that it had happened. The person with
whom I spoke was grateful for the call, and didn't ask my name. He did want
to know the register number and time, which I provided. I checked out about
a minute later, so it was easy to provide both.

Why did I get involved, such as I did?

Well, first off, since I turned 18 and started working, I've worked for a
living. I was never unemployed, ever. I didn't make a lot of money, for
I was a machinist. That job has never been high pay, never, not even
today, but it used to be steady employment, and I was gifted with the
ability to run machines well. From this you can deduct that I've earned
my way in life, not stolen it. I've never drawn a dime of unemployment pay.
Wouldn't even know how to go about asking for it.

One of the things I've tried to do in life when there was a question about
my actions is to turn it around and become the recipient of the deed, what
ever it may be. This one was a no-brainer. If I owned the store, I'd
want to know that this person would gladly steal from me, given the
opportunity. Maybe he didn't plan to have it happen, but he did nothing
to prevent it when he could have. Instead, he smartly walked out of the
store with his bag of items with a smile. He beat the system. He was
either the representative of a contractor, or the contractor himself. I
can't imagine that their bid didn't include money for needed materials, so
they were selling items appropriated improperly to increase their likely
already inflated profits. That, of course, I can't know, but for sure they
were selling something obtained by less than honorable methods.

Home Depot is new at this location, as Gary alluded. Barely a month old.
It's 25 miles from home for us. Previously we had to drive 50 miles to
get to the one in Lacey, where we've spent a great deal of our money there
as we've built the shop and now the house. They have a large variety of
things that we need, and they are a welcome presence in the community, at
least as far as I'm concerned, and the parking lot indicates. The local
stores had it good, overcharging for almost everything. I recall all too
well driving the 50 miles one way to Lacey when I needed several 5 gallon
cans of dampproofing for the foundation and it was twice as expensive
locally as it was at Home Depot.

Home Depot does not give the store away. My reason for being in town today
was to place the order for our windows. HD was higher by about $600 than
the local provider. The local business, the astute one that has a sharp
pencil, won't be losing much business to them, for they know they have to
compete, and they do. I'd like to insure that they don't go out of
business.

Harold

Harold,

You *called* HD???? ?????????????????
Unbelievable.... Unfuknbelievable.....
I knew you made *some* trouble, cuz, well, basically I had perceived you as
an entitled judgmental pill for some time now, but *that* was not on my list
of possibilities!!
Partly, cuz, well, pill or not, I thought you had at least one ball.

All you did was *rat out* a hapless cashier, and possibly cost her her job.

WTF is wrong w/ you?
You think because you never collected unemployment and are a bit of a
half-assed machinist you are entitled to hold the rest of the world to
super-accountability--to YOUR faux standards??

And, you have the bitchy-assed fukn nerve and pomp to speculate on poss.
relationships based on *your assessment of looks*??
You are a fukn dickless asshole.
And a coward.

If you are going to make people's lives miserable, at least have the fukn
backbone and small ball to do it face-to-face.
No doubt you have called Code Enforcement on 9 out of 10 of your hapless
neighbors.... gotten co-workers fired.... spy on the wife, mebbe?? what
a peach...

Man, my co-workers would have a *ball* w/ you.... you'd be the company bitch
in about 48 hours.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll

"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...

"Leo Lichtman" wrote:
Harold, why don't you just TELL us what you did?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Harold wrote:
Leo,

I've posted what I did on three different threads in the hope it's getting
out. Apparently my ISP is having problems. I responded five time to my
original post, plus various comments on other posts, all of which show on
my computer, but none show on Google.

I'm copying, below, what I posted originally. It was in response to a
post by Gary Hallenbeck. If you can't find it on RCM under a post titled
Harold's response to the dilemma, would you please post it, with my
permission? There's nothing more I can do until Monday, when TDS has the
proper staff on hand to address the problem, which is ongoing with them.
I've had considerable trouble with them for the past year. May be time
for a new ISP.

Thanks,

Harold

Not being an employee, yet not wanting to see anyone pull that kind of
crap,
I said nothing until he walked out of the store. We were almost directly
in
front of the exit, so he was gone in seconds, but I had observed enough to
know that if they wanted to contact him, they could. I simply told the
clerk that she had just given away half of what the customer chose, and
explained to her how she did it. I did not want to confront the buyer,
for
it was not my business and I didn't feel a need for a personal
confrontation. I'm too old for that. I did what any *responsible* person
would do, I notified those that should be involved.

Do I know I'm right? Yeah----I do. Regardless of how it happened,
the
ells had connectors on the end. I know this because the ells had a
formed
spigot on the other end, so it was obvious the connector had been added.
If the guy was smart enough to buy them, he was, likewise, smart enough to
know that he had two pieces, not just one. He was also aware that he
was
not paying for both pieces, for he stood there and watched her scan each
item, sometimes more than once when the scanner didn't "see" it on the
first
pass. As a person that wouldn't have done the same thing, I couldn't
believe my eyes as he stood there without saying anything.

The clerk assured me that he was working on the new restaurant going in
across the street, and was in the store regularly for provisions. Dunno
if
they know one another aside from their store relationship, nor do I care.
She wasn't a looker, in fact not the type you'd have for something on the
side, at least not in my estimation. Based on that, I don't know that
they
weren't working as a team, but I'd suggest they were not. She didn't
address him by name.

When I got home, I placed a call to the store and requested top level
management, wanting to let them know that it had happened. The person
with
whom I spoke was grateful for the call, and didn't ask my name. He did
want
to know the register number and time, which I provided. I checked out
about
a minute later, so it was easy to provide both.

Why did I get involved, such as I did?

Well, first off, since I turned 18 and started working, I've worked for a
living. I was never unemployed, ever. I didn't make a lot of money,
for
I was a machinist. That job has never been high pay, never, not even
today, but it used to be steady employment, and I was gifted with the
ability to run machines well. From this you can deduct that I've earned
my way in life, not stolen it. I've never drawn a dime of unemployment
pay.
Wouldn't even know how to go about asking for it.

One of the things I've tried to do in life when there was a question about
my actions is to turn it around and become the recipient of the deed, what
ever it may be. This one was a no-brainer. If I owned the store, I'd
want to know that this person would gladly steal from me, given the
opportunity. Maybe he didn't plan to have it happen, but he did nothing
to prevent it when he could have. Instead, he smartly walked out of the
store with his bag of items with a smile. He beat the system. He was
either the representative of a contractor, or the contractor himself. I
can't imagine that their bid didn't include money for needed materials, so
they were selling items appropriated improperly to increase their likely
already inflated profits. That, of course, I can't know, but for sure
they
were selling something obtained by less than honorable methods.

Home Depot is new at this location, as Gary alluded. Barely a month old.
It's 25 miles from home for us. Previously we had to drive 50 miles to
get to the one in Lacey, where we've spent a great deal of our money there
as we've built the shop and now the house. They have a large variety of
things that we need, and they are a welcome presence in the community, at
least as far as I'm concerned, and the parking lot indicates. The local
stores had it good, overcharging for almost everything. I recall all too
well driving the 50 miles one way to Lacey when I needed several 5 gallon
cans of dampproofing for the foundation and it was twice as expensive
locally as it was at Home Depot.

Home Depot does not give the store away. My reason for being in town
today
was to place the order for our windows. HD was higher by about $600 than
the local provider. The local business, the astute one that has a sharp
pencil, won't be losing much business to them, for they know they have to
compete, and they do. I'd like to insure that they don't go out of
business.

Harold

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
Harold,

You *called* HD???? ?????????????????
Unbelievable.... Unfuknbelievable.....
I knew you made *some* trouble, cuz, well, basically I had perceived you as
an entitled judgmental pill for some time now, but *that* was not on my list
of possibilities!!
Partly, cuz, well, pill or not, I thought you had at least one ball.

All you did was *rat out* a hapless cashier, and possibly cost her her job.

WTF is wrong w/ you?
You think because you never collected unemployment and are a bit of a
half-assed machinist you are entitled to hold the rest of the world to
super-accountability--to YOUR faux standards??

And, you have the bitchy-assed fukn nerve and pomp to speculate on poss.
relationships based on *your assessment of looks*??
You are a fukn dickless asshole.
And a coward.

If you are going to make people's lives miserable, at least have the fukn
backbone and small ball to do it face-to-face.
No doubt you have called Code Enforcement on 9 out of 10 of your hapless
neighbors.... gotten co-workers fired.... spy on the wife, mebbe?? what
a peach...

Man, my co-workers would have a *ball* w/ you.... you'd be the company bitch
in about 48 hours.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll

Darn... and to think I was going to wait til that cashier was working
again, start with a copper 90, add a piece of copper pipe, a couple
valves, a sink, drain, faucet, and a garbage disposal, and have her
scan just the sticker left on the 90.

"Whatdayamean $600 for a fitting?" LMAO


Ron

Little rough there, Peavey, not everyone's like you .. what Harold did is
essentially what most of the sober-minded folks on this NG said they'd do.
Please pull the claws back in about an inch ..

GWE

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:

Harold,

You *called* HD???? ?????????????????
Unbelievable.... Unfuknbelievable.....
I knew you made *some* trouble, cuz, well, basically I had perceived you as
an entitled judgmental pill for some time now, but *that* was not on my list
of possibilities!!
Partly, cuz, well, pill or not, I thought you had at least one ball.

All you did was *rat out* a hapless cashier, and possibly cost her her job.

WTF is wrong w/ you?
You think because you never collected unemployment and are a bit of a
half-assed machinist you are entitled to hold the rest of the world to
super-accountability--to YOUR faux standards??

And, you have the bitchy-assed fukn nerve and pomp to speculate on poss.
relationships based on *your assessment of looks*??
You are a fukn dickless asshole.
And a coward.

If you are going to make people's lives miserable, at least have the fukn
backbone and small ball to do it face-to-face.
No doubt you have called Code Enforcement on 9 out of 10 of your hapless
neighbors.... gotten co-workers fired.... spy on the wife, mebbe?? what
a peach...

Man, my co-workers would have a *ball* w/ you.... you'd be the company bitch
in about 48 hours.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll

"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...

"Leo Lichtman" wrote:
Harold, why don't you just TELL us what you did?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Harold wrote:
Leo,

I've posted what I did on three different threads in the hope it's getting
out. Apparently my ISP is having problems. I responded five time to my
original post, plus various comments on other posts, all of which show on
my computer, but none show on Google.

I'm copying, below, what I posted originally. It was in response to a
post by Gary Hallenbeck. If you can't find it on RCM under a post titled
Harold's response to the dilemma, would you please post it, with my
permission? There's nothing more I can do until Monday, when TDS has the
proper staff on hand to address the problem, which is ongoing with them.
I've had considerable trouble with them for the past year. May be time
for a new ISP.

Thanks,

Harold

Not being an employee, yet not wanting to see anyone pull that kind of
crap,
I said nothing until he walked out of the store. We were almost directly
in
front of the exit, so he was gone in seconds, but I had observed enough to
know that if they wanted to contact him, they could. I simply told the
clerk that she had just given away half of what the customer chose, and
explained to her how she did it. I did not want to confront the buyer,
for
it was not my business and I didn't feel a need for a personal
confrontation. I'm too old for that. I did what any *responsible* person
would do, I notified those that should be involved.

Do I know I'm right? Yeah----I do. Regardless of how it happened,
the
ells had connectors on the end. I know this because the ells had a
formed
spigot on the other end, so it was obvious the connector had been added.
If the guy was smart enough to buy them, he was, likewise, smart enough to
know that he had two pieces, not just one. He was also aware that he
was
not paying for both pieces, for he stood there and watched her scan each
item, sometimes more than once when the scanner didn't "see" it on the
first
pass. As a person that wouldn't have done the same thing, I couldn't
believe my eyes as he stood there without saying anything.

The clerk assured me that he was working on the new restaurant going in
across the street, and was in the store regularly for provisions. Dunno
if
they know one another aside from their store relationship, nor do I care.
She wasn't a looker, in fact not the type you'd have for something on the
side, at least not in my estimation. Based on that, I don't know that
they
weren't working as a team, but I'd suggest they were not. She didn't
address him by name.

When I got home, I placed a call to the store and requested top level
management, wanting to let them know that it had happened. The person
with
whom I spoke was grateful for the call, and didn't ask my name. He did
want
to know the register number and time, which I provided. I checked out
about
a minute later, so it was easy to provide both.

Why did I get involved, such as I did?

Well, first off, since I turned 18 and started working, I've worked for a
living. I was never unemployed, ever. I didn't make a lot of money,
for
I was a machinist. That job has never been high pay, never, not even
today, but it used to be steady employment, and I was gifted with the
ability to run machines well. From this you can deduct that I've earned
my way in life, not stolen it. I've never drawn a dime of unemployment
pay.
Wouldn't even know how to go about asking for it.

One of the things I've tried to do in life when there was a question about
my actions is to turn it around and become the recipient of the deed, what
ever it may be. This one was a no-brainer. If I owned the store, I'd
want to know that this person would gladly steal from me, given the
opportunity. Maybe he didn't plan to have it happen, but he did nothing
to prevent it when he could have. Instead, he smartly walked out of the
store with his bag of items with a smile. He beat the system. He was
either the representative of a contractor, or the contractor himself. I
can't imagine that their bid didn't include money for needed materials, so
they were selling items appropriated improperly to increase their likely
already inflated profits. That, of course, I can't know, but for sure
they
were selling something obtained by less than honorable methods.

Home Depot is new at this location, as Gary alluded. Barely a month old.
It's 25 miles from home for us. Previously we had to drive 50 miles to
get to the one in Lacey, where we've spent a great deal of our money there
as we've built the shop and now the house. They have a large variety of
things that we need, and they are a welcome presence in the community, at
least as far as I'm concerned, and the parking lot indicates. The local
stores had it good, overcharging for almost everything. I recall all too
well driving the 50 miles one way to Lacey when I needed several 5 gallon
cans of dampproofing for the foundation and it was twice as expensive
locally as it was at Home Depot.

Home Depot does not give the store away. My reason for being in town
today
was to place the order for our windows. HD was higher by about $600 than
the local provider. The local business, the astute one that has a sharp
pencil, won't be losing much business to them, for they know they have to
compete, and they do. I'd like to insure that they don't go out of
business.

Harold

Well Harold we now know who was in front of you, Mr. PV himself or his
twin. Thank you Harold for being an honest man.
lg
no neat sig line
"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote in message
...
Harold,

You *called* HD???? ?????????????????
Unbelievable.... Unfuknbelievable.....
I knew you made *some* trouble, cuz, well, basically I had perceived you
as an entitled judgmental pill for some time now, but *that* was not on my
list of possibilities!!
Partly, cuz, well, pill or not, I thought you had at least one ball.

All you did was *rat out* a hapless cashier, and possibly cost her her
job.

WTF is wrong w/ you?
You think because you never collected unemployment and are a bit of a
half-assed machinist you are entitled to hold the rest of the world to
super-accountability--to YOUR faux standards??

And, you have the bitchy-assed fukn nerve and pomp to speculate on poss.
relationships based on *your assessment of looks*??
You are a fukn dickless asshole.
And a coward.

If you are going to make people's lives miserable, at least have the fukn
backbone and small ball to do it face-to-face.
No doubt you have called Code Enforcement on 9 out of 10 of your hapless
neighbors.... gotten co-workers fired.... spy on the wife, mebbe??
what a peach...

Man, my co-workers would have a *ball* w/ you.... you'd be the company
bitch in about 48 hours.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll

"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...

"Leo Lichtman" wrote:
Harold, why don't you just TELL us what you did?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Harold wrote:
Leo,

I've posted what I did on three different threads in the hope it's
getting out. Apparently my ISP is having problems. I responded five time
to my original post, plus various comments on other posts, all of which
show on my computer, but none show on Google.

I'm copying, below, what I posted originally. It was in response to a
post by Gary Hallenbeck. If you can't find it on RCM under a post
titled Harold's response to the dilemma, would you please post it, with
my permission? There's nothing more I can do until Monday, when TDS has
the proper staff on hand to address the problem, which is ongoing with
them. I've had considerable trouble with them for the past year. May
be time for a new ISP.

Thanks,

Harold

Not being an employee, yet not wanting to see anyone pull that kind of
crap,
I said nothing until he walked out of the store. We were almost directly
in
front of the exit, so he was gone in seconds, but I had observed enough
to
know that if they wanted to contact him, they could. I simply told the
clerk that she had just given away half of what the customer chose, and
explained to her how she did it. I did not want to confront the buyer,
for
it was not my business and I didn't feel a need for a personal
confrontation. I'm too old for that. I did what any *responsible* person
would do, I notified those that should be involved.

Do I know I'm right? Yeah----I do. Regardless of how it happened,
the
ells had connectors on the end. I know this because the ells had a
formed
spigot on the other end, so it was obvious the connector had been added.
If the guy was smart enough to buy them, he was, likewise, smart enough
to
know that he had two pieces, not just one. He was also aware that he
was
not paying for both pieces, for he stood there and watched her scan each
item, sometimes more than once when the scanner didn't "see" it on the
first
pass. As a person that wouldn't have done the same thing, I couldn't
believe my eyes as he stood there without saying anything.

The clerk assured me that he was working on the new restaurant going in
across the street, and was in the store regularly for provisions. Dunno
if
they know one another aside from their store relationship, nor do I care.
She wasn't a looker, in fact not the type you'd have for something on the
side, at least not in my estimation. Based on that, I don't know that
they
weren't working as a team, but I'd suggest they were not. She didn't
address him by name.

When I got home, I placed a call to the store and requested top level
management, wanting to let them know that it had happened. The person
with
whom I spoke was grateful for the call, and didn't ask my name. He did
want
to know the register number and time, which I provided. I checked out
about
a minute later, so it was easy to provide both.

Why did I get involved, such as I did?

Well, first off, since I turned 18 and started working, I've worked for a
living. I was never unemployed, ever. I didn't make a lot of money,
for
I was a machinist. That job has never been high pay, never, not even
today, but it used to be steady employment, and I was gifted with the
ability to run machines well. From this you can deduct that I've
earned
my way in life, not stolen it. I've never drawn a dime of unemployment
pay.
Wouldn't even know how to go about asking for it.

One of the things I've tried to do in life when there was a question
about
my actions is to turn it around and become the recipient of the deed,
what
ever it may be. This one was a no-brainer. If I owned the store, I'd
want to know that this person would gladly steal from me, given the
opportunity. Maybe he didn't plan to have it happen, but he did
nothing
to prevent it when he could have. Instead, he smartly walked out of the
store with his bag of items with a smile. He beat the system. He was
either the representative of a contractor, or the contractor himself. I
can't imagine that their bid didn't include money for needed materials,
so
they were selling items appropriated improperly to increase their likely
already inflated profits. That, of course, I can't know, but for sure
they
were selling something obtained by less than honorable methods.

Home Depot is new at this location, as Gary alluded. Barely a month old.
It's 25 miles from home for us. Previously we had to drive 50 miles to
get to the one in Lacey, where we've spent a great deal of our money
there
as we've built the shop and now the house. They have a large variety of
things that we need, and they are a welcome presence in the community, at
least as far as I'm concerned, and the parking lot indicates. The local
stores had it good, overcharging for almost everything. I recall all too
well driving the 50 miles one way to Lacey when I needed several 5 gallon
cans of dampproofing for the foundation and it was twice as expensive
locally as it was at Home Depot.

Home Depot does not give the store away. My reason for being in town
today
was to place the order for our windows. HD was higher by about $600 than
the local provider. The local business, the astute one that has a
sharp
pencil, won't be losing much business to them, for they know they have to
compete, and they do. I'd like to insure that they don't go out of
business.

Harold

In article , Proctologically Violated©® says...

Harold,

You *called* HD???? ?????????????????

snip rant

Hmm. Cranky cranky.

Too many catboxes to clean out, eh?

Jim


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Leo Lichtman wrote:

Not being an employee, yet not wanting to see anyone pull that kind of crap,
I said nothing until he walked out of the store. We were almost directly in
front of the exit, so he was gone in seconds, but I had observed enough to
know that if they wanted to contact him, they could. I simply told the
clerk that she had just given away half of what the customer chose, and
explained to her how she did it. I did not want to confront the buyer,

Why? Afraid to get punched in the face? But not afraid to be assaulted
by a female cashier. Coward.

for
it was not my business

Indeed, it was not your business!

and I didn't feel a need for a personal
confrontation. I'm too old for that. I did what any *responsible* person
would do, I notified those that should be involved.

Do I know I'm right? Yeah----I do.

No you're not! You just don't know how to mind your own business. And
your action might even have cost the poor woman her job.

Regardless of how it happened, the
ells had connectors on the end. I know this because the ells had a formed
spigot on the other end, so it was obvious the connector had been added.
If the guy was smart enough to buy them, he was, likewise, smart enough to
know that he had two pieces, not just one. He was also aware that he was
not paying for both pieces, for he stood there and watched her scan each
item, sometimes more than once when the scanner didn't "see" it on the first
pass.

You are making nothing but assumptions. You don't know if he was paying
attention to her scanning the items, he may have been day dreaming while
seemingly looking at her scanning the items. Has happened to me many
times. When the charge slip is put in front of me I just sign on the
dotted line. Sometimes I get lucky.

As a person that wouldn't have done the same thing,

Well, how grand of you

I couldn't
believe my eyes as he stood there without saying anything.

Again, you don't even know that he know what had happened.


The clerk assured me that he was working on the new restaurant going in
across the street, and was in the store regularly for provisions. Dunno if
they know one another aside from their store relationship, nor do I care.
She wasn't a looker, in fact not the type you'd have for something on the
side, at least not in my estimation.

**** you asshole! Where do you get the balls to assume a relationship,
based on how someone looks in your opinion.

Based on that, I don't know that they
weren't working as a team, but I'd suggest they were not.

Jackass!

She didn't
address him by name.

When I got home, I placed a call to the store and requested top level
management, wanting to let them know that it had happened. The person with
whom I spoke was grateful for the call, and didn't ask my name. He did want
to know the register number and time, which I provided. I checked out about
a minute later, so it was easy to provide both.

Why did I get involved, such as I did?

Well, first off, since I turned 18 and started working, I've worked for a
living. I was never unemployed, ever. I didn't make a lot of money, for
I was a machinist. That job has never been high pay, never, not even
today, but it used to be steady employment, and I was gifted with the
ability to run machines well. From this you can deduct that I've earned
my way in life, not stolen it. I've never drawn a dime of unemployment pay.
Wouldn't even know how to go about asking for it.

So you were just **** jealous that someone got something for free, and
you were going to see to it, that he was going to pay for it, like you
have all your life.


One of the things I've tried to do in life when there was a question about
my actions is to turn it around and become the recipient of the deed, what
ever it may be. This one was a no-brainer. If I owned the store, I'd
want to know that this person would gladly steal from me, given the
opportunity.

You don't know that he stole. Like I said, he may have just
absentmindedly signed on the bottom line and walked out.

Maybe he didn't plan to have it happen, but he did nothing
to prevent it when he could have.

You don't know that.

Instead, he smartly walked out of the
store with his bag of items with a smile. He beat the system. He was
either the representative of a contractor, or the contractor himself. I
can't imagine that their bid didn't include money for needed materials, so
they were selling items appropriated improperly to increase their likely
already inflated profits. That, of course, I can't know, but for sure they
were selling something obtained by less than honorable methods.

You don't know that either.

What a pathetic post.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

"Abrasha" wrote: Leo Lichtman wrote:
A long quotation which LeoLichtman forwarded from Harold, the OP. Abrasha,
none of what you attributed to me was actually mine. All I did was solicit
an answer from Harold, and forward it to the group at his request. You owe
me a doughnut.

"Abrasha" wrote in message
. ..

Indeed, it was not your business!

Yep!

And I'm sure you'd have the same feelings if it was someone stealing from
*your* store. Surely, you wouldn't want to know, would you.

Hypocrite!!


What a pathetic post.
Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

What's pathetic is your unbelievable amorality. Your double standard.

Look, asshole, I'd have done the same thing for you-----it has nothing to do
with HD or any other entity--I am the one that was on trial----or perhaps my
morals-------

I live by certain standards-----standards that dictate if I compromise what
I do, I become someone like you------which isn't the most complimentary
thing I can think of..

Oh, yeah, in case you didn't already figure it out-----------*PLONK*

Harold

Well that does it for me.
Nothing like taking an intelligent discourse on morality and reducing it
to name-calling and cursing.
[plonk]
- -
Rex Burkheimer



Abrasha wrote:

[profanity and insults deleted]

I don't usually go to management on something like this but I would
definitely inform the cashier. I doubt if it was collusion between the
purchaser and the cashier but a cashier who is not properly trained.
I will drop a dime on someone I see shop lifting. Is this my business?
Definitely. People aren't in business to lose money so the prices of
everything I buy are higher to make up for these losses. In this instance
perhaps the customer wasn't aware that he was only paying for one item
instead of two so I wouldn't say anything at the moment, not because I'm
afraid of getting my ass whipped but not wanting to make a scene perhaps
embarrassing him and the cashier both so I would wait until he had left.
I doubt if by telling management about something as slight as this
occurrence would cost the cashier a job but even if it did then that's their
determination. They have the right to know if their cashier is not
knowledgeable or not trained enough for the position or if they are just not
caring enough to do the job right.
Dick

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"Abrasha" wrote in message
. ..
Leo Lichtman wrote:

Not being an employee, yet not wanting to see anyone pull that kind of
crap,
I said nothing until he walked out of the store. We were almost directly
in
front of the exit, so he was gone in seconds, but I had observed enough
to
know that if they wanted to contact him, they could. I simply told the
clerk that she had just given away half of what the customer chose, and
explained to her how she did it. I did not want to confront the buyer,

Why? Afraid to get punched in the face? But not afraid to be assaulted
by a female cashier. Coward.

for
it was not my business

Indeed, it was not your business!

and I didn't feel a need for a personal
confrontation. I'm too old for that. I did what any *responsible* person
would do, I notified those that should be involved.

Do I know I'm right? Yeah----I do.

No you're not! You just don't know how to mind your own business. And
your action might even have cost the poor woman her job.

Regardless of how it happened, the
ells had connectors on the end. I know this because the ells had a
formed
spigot on the other end, so it was obvious the connector had been added.
If the guy was smart enough to buy them, he was, likewise, smart enough
to
know that he had two pieces, not just one. He was also aware that he
was
not paying for both pieces, for he stood there and watched her scan each
item, sometimes more than once when the scanner didn't "see" it on the
first
pass.

You are making nothing but assumptions. You don't know if he was paying
attention to her scanning the items, he may have been day dreaming while
seemingly looking at her scanning the items. Has happened to me many
times. When the charge slip is put in front of me I just sign on the
dotted line. Sometimes I get lucky.

As a person that wouldn't have done the same thing,

Well, how grand of you

I couldn't
believe my eyes as he stood there without saying anything.

Again, you don't even know that he know what had happened.


The clerk assured me that he was working on the new restaurant going in
across the street, and was in the store regularly for provisions. Dunno
if
they know one another aside from their store relationship, nor do I care.
She wasn't a looker, in fact not the type you'd have for something on the
side, at least not in my estimation.

**** you asshole! Where do you get the balls to assume a relationship,
based on how someone looks in your opinion.

Based on that, I don't know that they
weren't working as a team, but I'd suggest they were not.

Jackass!

She didn't
address him by name.

When I got home, I placed a call to the store and requested top level
management, wanting to let them know that it had happened. The person
with
whom I spoke was grateful for the call, and didn't ask my name. He did
want
to know the register number and time, which I provided. I checked out
about
a minute later, so it was easy to provide both.

Why did I get involved, such as I did?

Well, first off, since I turned 18 and started working, I've worked for a
living. I was never unemployed, ever. I didn't make a lot of money,
for
I was a machinist. That job has never been high pay, never, not even
today, but it used to be steady employment, and I was gifted with the
ability to run machines well. From this you can deduct that I've
earned
my way in life, not stolen it. I've never drawn a dime of unemployment
pay.
Wouldn't even know how to go about asking for it.

So you were just **** jealous that someone got something for free, and you
were going to see to it, that he was going to pay for it, like you have
all your life.


One of the things I've tried to do in life when there was a question
about
my actions is to turn it around and become the recipient of the deed,
what
ever it may be. This one was a no-brainer. If I owned the store, I'd
want to know that this person would gladly steal from me, given the
opportunity.

You don't know that he stole. Like I said, he may have just
absentmindedly signed on the bottom line and walked out.

Maybe he didn't plan to have it happen, but he did nothing
to prevent it when he could have.

You don't know that.

Instead, he smartly walked out of the
store with his bag of items with a smile. He beat the system. He was
either the representative of a contractor, or the contractor himself. I
can't imagine that their bid didn't include money for needed materials,
so
they were selling items appropriated improperly to increase their likely
already inflated profits. That, of course, I can't know, but for sure
they
were selling something obtained by less than honorable methods.

You don't know that either.

What a pathetic post.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

I don't see it on the earthlink server.

Peter


"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"jim rozen" wrote in message
...
Exactly what *did* you do at the home desperate when the guy cheated
with the pipe fittings?

We gotta know!

Jim

Sorry you missed it, Jim. If you'll go to the original post and read my
response to Gary Hallenbeck, it explains my actions, and my rationale..

I'd appreciate your comments, Jim.

Harold