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Hey Guys and Gals,
Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. |
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Down here in the States, it used to be "Memorial Day" for WW1 vets, but now
it's been changed to "Veteran's Day" and covers old WW2 vets like me as well as all other vets of foreign wars, including those who are over there now. Thanks for reminding us Brian. I've got my flag out now. Walt "Brian Lawson" wrote in message ... Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. |
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We remember! Only us old fossils remember the arnistice signed on the
11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. Little did we know that war would get worse. Bugs |
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In the US it was called Armistice day but was renamed Veterans
Day in 1954, apparently to defuse the move to have VE [May 7 1945] and VJ [August 14 1945] day also made federal holidays. The major US activity is now shopping at the great sales with goods at regualr prices but lots of hype. The reason for the original title and esp. the original meaning seem to have been suppressed because of political correctness, i.e. not glorifying war, and reminding the people of what these "adventures" cost them in blood and treasure. The "statesmen" of the world seem hellbent on creating/maintaining another global conflict thorugh their egotism, greed and cultural ignorance. George Orwell seems to have gotten it right when he observed in his book 1984, "war is peace." We all would do well to remember the reported last words of the Russian Foreign Minister at the start of WW1 just before he was shot by the bolsheviki -- "I only wanted a little war." GmcD On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:02:14 -0500, Brian Lawson wrote: Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. |
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The "statesmen" of the world seem hellbent on
creating/maintaining another global conflict thorugh their ... through their apathy and appeasement of the islamic terrorists. I do suppose we could learn a lot from the worlds socialist nations, like France, on the effect appeasing these animals has on preventing riots and civil unrest. Well, at least it got them to take *some* action. Maybe we should model our response to rioters after the French Socialists - you riot and we'll deport you, whether you're an immigrant or not. Tillman If Hillary does manager to get elected to the White House in 2008, I wonder how long it will be before another President Clinton will be lying "I did not have sex with that woman". |
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The reason for the original title and esp. the original meaning
seem to have been suppressed because of political correctness, i.e. not glorifying war, and reminding the people of what these "adventures" cost them in blood and treasure. And the purpose is to remember those who understood duty and understood why it was important to take action against evil. Apathy is the hand that opens the door for tyranny. (see France, WW2. see France, 2001-200?) Tillman If Hillary does manager to get elected to the White House in 2008, I wonder how long it will be before another President Clinton will be lying: "I did not have sex with that woman". |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:02:14 -0500, the renowned Brian Lawson
wrote: Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. sed added "Pete" posted this last year at this time, and I'd like to repeat it: http://www.army.dnd.ca/chief_land_st...lish/video.asp Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:18:59 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:02:14 -0500, the renowned Brian Lawson wrote: Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. sed added "Pete" posted this last year at this time, and I'd like to repeat it: http://www.army.dnd.ca/chief_land_st...lish/video.asp Best regards, Spehro Pefhany In the States it's called Veterans' Day ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:18:59 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:02:14 -0500, the renowned Brian Lawson wrote: Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. sed added "Pete" posted this last year at this time, and I'd like to repeat it: http://www.army.dnd.ca/chief_land_st...lish/video.asp Best regards, Spehro Pefhany In the States it's called Veterans' Day Armistice day or Remembrance day in the UK (this is where it comes from, with the First World War Armistice being signed on Nov 10th, but it took a while for the news to filter through, and the last deaths occured around 11pm the next day - in fact it was a Canadian at 10:58, who is normally ascribed as the last Commonwealth casualty of this War). The final bugle calls for 'cease fire', occured around 11am on the 11th November 1918. We also normally use 'Remembrance Sunday', for the Sunday afterwards, when services are held at the Cenotaph, 'in remembrance'. Best Wishes |
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"Brian Lawson" wrote in message ... Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. ....and Canadians all over the land remember the day by turning on the outdoor Christmas lights that are permanently installed on every house. |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:58:55 GMT, "Roger Hamlett"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:18:59 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:02:14 -0500, the renowned Brian Lawson wrote: Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. sed added "Pete" posted this last year at this time, and I'd like to repeat it: http://www.army.dnd.ca/chief_land_st...lish/video.asp Best regards, Spehro Pefhany In the States it's called Veterans' Day Armistice day or Remembrance day in the UK (this is where it comes from, with the First World War Armistice being signed on Nov 10th, but it took a while for the news to filter through, and the last deaths occured around 11pm the next day - in fact it was a Canadian at 10:58, who is normally ascribed as the last Commonwealth casualty of this War). The final bugle calls for 'cease fire', occured around 11am on the 11th November 1918. We also normally use 'Remembrance Sunday', for the Sunday afterwards, when services are held at the Cenotaph, 'in remembrance'. Best Wishes It used to be Armistice Day here as well. I'm not sure when it was changed to Veterans Day. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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It's high time that this total bollox and hypocrisy of "Remembrance"
was flushed down the pan. Those who were killed set out with the intention of killing their fellow man and received their just deserts, no more, no less. The concept of "dieing for one's country" is just so much bull****. Are the Niagara Falls any greater as the result of those who died for them? Exactly. If those who got killed were doing something noble, then surely the actions of those who flew the jets into the World Trade Centre were even more noble and to be more admired? Did they not die for what they believed in? Exactly. Brian Lawson wrote: Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. |
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Bugs wrote:
We remember! Only us old fossils remember the arnistice signed on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. Little did we know that war would get worse. Bugs Well, there are some younger cynics who wryly remember that it celebrated the armistice that was signed to end the war to end all wars, and that world peace would follow. So honor the fallen, both living and dead, and let's all try to keep the fighting to a necessary minimum (of course we'll have to fight about what minimum is necessary -- we _are_ human). -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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Several restaurants around here (NH) serve free meals for veterans
today. I'm going for the prime rib if I can talk my way out of work before 6:30 (I start at 7:30AM) jw |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:47:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: Best regards, Spehro Pefhany In the States it's called Veterans' Day ...Jim Thompson The second much much less well known (obscure actually) reason to celebrate, is that its my birthday. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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On 11 Nov 2005 09:27:16 -0800, "Polymath"
wrote: It's high time that this total bollox and hypocrisy of "Remembrance" was flushed down the pan. Those who were killed set out with the intention of killing their fellow man and received their just deserts, no more, no less. The concept of "dieing for one's country" is just so much bull****. Are the Niagara Falls any greater as the result of those who died for them? Exactly. If those who got killed were doing something noble, then surely the actions of those who flew the jets into the World Trade Centre were even more noble and to be more admired? Did they not die for what they believed in? Exactly. Like American beer...weak and bitter. How long have you lived such a cold and miserable existance? Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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Well Bugs, at 67 is don't consider myslef to be an "old fossil", but I
do remember, and today my flag, like that of most true blooded Americans, is flying high outside my home. Beyond that, I just wrote a check for my quartely contribution to the DAV. Let's never forget that the disabled veterans gave everything short of their lives to our country We can help these guys a little, but for those that gave the ultimate sacrifice we can only mourn and remember their gift to us. Harry C. |
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Asshole!
Bet you never served your country in any way, and reamain just a consuming asshole who reapts the rewards of living in the US withojut paying his dues! Harry C. |
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Go for it Jim, you've earned that and much more! We Amiericans salute
you! Harry C. |
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Thanks Jim!!
Tillman I'll happily comply with any left-winger socialist scum who wants to take my weapons away from me. They can have my bullets first, delivered at high velocity. |
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It's high time that this total bollox and hypocrisy of "Remembrance"
was flushed down the pan. Those who were killed set out with the intention of killing their fellow man and received their just deserts, no more, no less. The concept of "dieing for one's country" is just so much bull****. I'll give 1000:1 Poly's a socialist pinko left-winger, probably of frog ancestorage. Tillman If Hillary does manager to get elected to the White House in 2008, I wonder how long it will be before another President Clinton will be lying "I did not have sex with that woman". |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:01:11 GMT, the renowned Gunner
wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:47:44 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Best regards, Spehro Pefhany In the States it's called Veterans' Day ...Jim Thompson The second much much less well known (obscure actually) reason to celebrate, is that its my birthday. Gunner Have a great one Gunner. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:48:37 -0500, the renowned Keith Williams
wrote: There was just a thing on the radio giving the history of the holiday. Armistice Day was renamed Veterans' Day in 1954. Veterans day was then moved to October in the '60s and back to 11/11 in the late '70s. According to CNN domestic they also wanted to move it to a Monday like some other holidays, but veterans' groups wouldn't have it and continued to mark it on 11/11 until the gov't caved. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:10:07 GMT, the renowned "Tom Gardner"
wrote: "Brian Lawson" wrote in message .. . Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. ...and Canadians all over the land remember the day by turning on the outdoor Christmas lights that are permanently installed on every house. My neighbor down the street just turned his off last week. End of the 5-day Hindu festival of lights (Diwali). Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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Hey Polymath,
Quite a unique name. What made your parents think of that, I wonder? Anyway, Thanks for that reply. You didn't have to, although I don't know that I could have gone another day thinking that the whole world was a kinder gentler place. By the way, I need a house, or at least a place to stay when I go to the UK. I've decided it should be at your place in your bed, so please vacate as soon as practically possible to save yourself, cause I'm coming armed and dangerous, now that I know you won't do anything about it. If whoever you sleep with is female and not half bad looking, then please leave her behind for me. If you don't, I'll be right ****ed. If you do leave her and she's as ugly as what I suppose you'd end up with considering the wonderful philosophy of life you live by, or if it's a "him", I'll be ****ed about that too, so keep moving. And I suggest you don't ask your neighbours or police or family or anybody else, and most especially not a veteran or a soldier, for help to keep me from taking what I want. I wouldn't want to hear that you got any kind of an unpleasant rejection that might have upset you when asking. Ohhhh....and if you are Jewish, I think...in fact I know, it will be best if you just leave the country, maybe go to where-ever those skilled pilot heroes that you think were so brave and conscientious came from. The family they left behind would love to meet you! Something said after the service I attended this morning kind of strikes home he If you can read, thank a Teacher. If it's English, thank a Soldier. And from my Mother: If you can't think of anything nice to say, leave your foot in your mouth. Or at least try finding out the "rest of the story" as Paul Harvey says. Take care. No no... in your case, go get some care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On 11 Nov 2005 09:27:16 -0800, "Polymath" wrote: It's high time that this total bollox and hypocrisy of "Remembrance" was flushed down the pan. Those who were killed set out with the intention of killing their fellow man and received their just deserts, no more, no less. The concept of "dieing for one's country" is just so much bull****. Are the Niagara Falls any greater as the result of those who died for them? Exactly. If those who got killed were doing something noble, then surely the actions of those who flew the jets into the World Trade Centre were even more noble and to be more admired? Did they not die for what they believed in? Exactly. Brian Lawson wrote: Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:33:19 -0500, Brian Lawson wrote:
Hey Polymath, Quite a unique name. What made your parents think of that, I wonder? (snip) Brian, the troll isn't worthy of the amount of time you spent on your reply. He won't get it, doesn't want to get it, and is only posting messages to **** people off and get them to waste time on him. Just so you know. |
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...Harry C.
Well, actually they made me a repairman and I was never near combat, except in bars, but I appreciate the thought for all who did serve and fight. jw |
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Gunner skrev: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:47:44 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Best regards, Spehro Pefhany In the States it's called Veterans' Day ...Jim Thompson The second much much less well known (obscure actually) reason to celebrate, is that its my birthday. happy birthday, here we jokingly call it the bakers birthday because 11-11 sounds like kneading-kneading in danish :) -Lasse |
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" My neighbor down the street just turned his off last week. End of the 5-day Hindu festival of lights (Diwali). Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Weren't you the one that confessed that in the summer, you sneak over to your neighbor's house and turn on HIS Christmas lights to attract the bugs from your yard??? |
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"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
... On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:48:37 -0500, the renowned Keith Williams wrote: There was just a thing on the radio giving the history of the holiday. Armistice Day was renamed Veterans' Day in 1954. Veterans day was then moved to October in the '60s and back to 11/11 in the late '70s. According to CNN domestic they also wanted to move it to a Monday like some other holidays, but veterans' groups wouldn't have it and continued to mark it on 11/11 until the gov't caved. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- Good on 'em - some holidays can be moved, some can't. Cheers. Ken |
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The shop shut down for a moment of silence today.
We remember. Regards, Robin "Brian Lawson" wrote in message ... Hey Guys and Gals, Today is Remembrance Day in Canada. I don't know what the "11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month" is called in other countries, but the name is not so important as the need. We Remember. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. |
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If "they" wern't over here and we weren't over there, would there
be a problem, and if not does this suggest a possible solution? GmcD On 11 Nov 2005 08:09:20 -0800, "tillius" wrote: The "statesmen" of the world seem hellbent on creating/maintaining another global conflict thorugh their ... through their apathy and appeasement of the islamic terrorists. I do suppose we could learn a lot from the worlds socialist nations, like France, on the effect appeasing these animals has on preventing riots and civil unrest. Well, at least it got them to take *some* action. Maybe we should model our response to rioters after the French Socialists - you riot and we'll deport you, whether you're an immigrant or not. Tillman If Hillary does manager to get elected to the White House in 2008, I wonder how long it will be before another President Clinton will be lying "I did not have sex with that woman". |
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If "they" wern't over here and we weren't over there, would there
be a problem, and if not does this suggest a possible solution? The ones rioting over here aren't rioting because we liberated Iraq and are helping them establish a democracy free from the rule of a murderous torturing dictator. The ones rioting in France may be from the general region we're defending from tyranny, but of course, it's kind of hard to blame that on France being over there. The Socialist French government claims it's because of poverty. That's quite a testament to the effectiveness of socialist policy protecting the poor, isn't it? Since all the left-wingers love the socialist policies, maybe it would make them happy if, the next time we have riots in places like LA or Cleveland or *pick your favorite place*, we adopt the same solution the brilliant Socialist French government decided on: You riot, we deport you, whether you're an immigrant or not. Tillman Apathy is the hand that opens the door for tyranny. |
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Actually, the Eric Bogle song relates more specifically to Anzac Day, April 25th when the troops of Australia and New Zealand landed at Gallipoli. These soldiers are known as ANZACS because they comprised soldiers of both Australia and New Zealand Army Corps. Right- when the pathetically incompetent riffraff in command are responsible for their slaughter, then we memorialize them...Why don't you just call it fodder day? |
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Fred Bloggs wrote:
Actually, the Eric Bogle song relates more specifically to Anzac Day, April 25th when the troops of Australia and New Zealand landed at Gallipoli. These soldiers are known as ANZACS because they comprised soldiers of both Australia and New Zealand Army Corps. Right- when the pathetically incompetent riffraff in command are responsible for their slaughter, then we memorialize them...Why don't you just call it fodder day? In England, these celebrations have been accompanied by requests for the pardoning of those who were killed by firing squad for desertion. Pour encourager les autres. |
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According to Ross Herbert :
[ ... ] In Australia 11/11 is also known as Armistice Day or Remembrance Day. This year, the 87th anniversary was the first year at which no surviving Australian combat veteran was left alive to remember the day. In October this year the last of the diggers passed away at the age of 106. Sigh -- I knew that this day was coming. Eric Bogle has his epitaph to soldiers of the first world war here http://www.screensound.gov.au/screen...0?OpenDocument Just look for Eric Bogle version called "And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" on the page and download/play it. No need to do so. I'm quite familiar with the song, and his singing. (And this was one of the songs which he *wrote*. And it contained a line which predicted this day. Sigh, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:04:41 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:01:11 GMT, the renowned Gunner wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:47:44 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Best regards, Spehro Pefhany In the States it's called Veterans' Day ...Jim Thompson The second much much less well known (obscure actually) reason to celebrate, is that its my birthday. Gunner Have a great one Gunner. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany And I thank You Sir. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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