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Spehro Pefhany November 10th 03 11:31 AM

Left hand end mill ?
 
Why and where would you want to use one?

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Harold & Susan Vordos November 10th 03 07:54 PM

Left hand end mill ?
 

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
...
Why and where would you want to use one?

TIA.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany


Assuming you're making reference to a left hand spiral, they are made to
counter-act the forces where heavy cuts tend to pull the end mill out of a
collet. I suppose the concept is that it's better to have your cut shallow
out instead of the end mill pull deeper, which simply leads to the end mill
pulling out all the faster if you're doing pocket work and cutting to a
bottom instead of through the material. The other negative is if you're
cutting near the table and it pulls out unnoticed, you damage the mill
table. While they aren't routinely found, nor used, they serve a valuable
function and are worth having for that special job where you have problems.

Years ago, when I was making some master tracer templates for the Boeing
747, I scrapped a large superstructure template when a 1" end mill pulled
out in just this way. It happens.

Harold







michael November 11th 03 02:52 AM

Left hand end mill ?
 
Harold & Susan Vordos wrote:

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
...
Why and where would you want to use one?

TIA.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany


Assuming you're making reference to a left hand spiral, they are made to
counter-act the forces where heavy cuts tend to pull the end mill out of a
collet. I suppose the concept is that it's better to have your cut shallow
out instead of the end mill pull deeper, which simply leads to the end mill
pulling out all the faster if you're doing pocket work and cutting to a
bottom instead of through the material. The other negative is if you're
cutting near the table and it pulls out unnoticed, you damage the mill
table. While they aren't routinely found, nor used, they serve a valuable
function and are worth having for that special job where you have problems.

Years ago, when I was making some master tracer templates for the Boeing
747, I scrapped a large superstructure template when a 1" end mill pulled
out in just this way. It happens.

Harold


Nice to have when milling round stuff (cnc or rotary table) and the only
clamping is a center bolt. And no, I don't have any.

michael



RKurtz November 12th 03 12:56 PM

Left hand end mill ?
 
Nice to have when milling round stuff (cnc or rotary table) and the only
clamping is a center bolt. And no, I don't have any.


Why not machine a left-handed clamping bolt ?

Ron

Harold & Susan Vordos November 12th 03 07:06 PM

Left hand end mill ?
 

"RKurtz" wrote in message
...
Nice to have when milling round stuff (cnc or rotary table) and the only
clamping is a center bolt. And no, I don't have any.


Why not machine a left-handed clamping bolt ?

Ron


Nothing wrong with that idea aside from the fact that most tool boxes have
few, if any, left hand taps. Michael's reply was right on the money.
Another option is to use the right hand thread and get down VERY hard with
the screw so you overcome the cutting force. That can be risky.

Harold



michael November 12th 03 11:23 PM

Left hand end mill ?
 
Harold & Susan Vordos wrote:

"RKurtz" wrote in message
...
Nice to have when milling round stuff (cnc or rotary table) and the only
clamping is a center bolt. And no, I don't have any.


Why not machine a left-handed clamping bolt ?

Ron


Nothing wrong with that idea aside from the fact that most tool boxes have
few, if any, left hand taps. Michael's reply was right on the money.
Another option is to use the right hand thread and get down VERY hard with
the screw so you overcome the cutting force. That can be risky.

Harold


Yeah, that has worked "both" ways for me. That is why there are words like
risky and maybe. And phrases like I think.....and well, I thought......

michael



RKurtz November 16th 03 12:48 PM

Left hand end mill ?
 
Nice to have when milling round stuff (cnc or rotary table) and the only
clamping is a center bolt. And no, I don't have any.

Why not machine a left-handed clamping bolt ?

Ron


Nothing wrong with that idea aside from the fact that most tool boxes have
few, if any, left hand taps. Michael's reply was right on the money.
Another option is to use the right hand thread and get down VERY hard with
the screw so you overcome the cutting force. That can be risky.

Harold


Yeah, that has worked "both" ways for me. That is why there are words like
risky and maybe. And phrases like I think.....and well, I thought......

michael


Geez, I hate to admit it, but it reminds me of a time when I had to clamp an
irregular shaped piece to the milling table. After using all sorts of step
blocks and clamping bolts, I asked a co-worker if he thought the setup was
rigid enough. His reply?
" If YOU think it is. YOU'RE the one standing near it!"
LMAO.. live and learn,
Ron

Brian Lawson November 16th 03 01:51 PM

Left hand end mill ?
 
Hey Ron,,


On 16 Nov 2003 12:48:19 GMT, yetspam (RKurtz) wrote:

BIG SNIP

Geez, I hate to admit it, but it reminds me of a time when I had to clamp an
irregular shaped piece to the milling table. After using all sorts of step
blocks and clamping bolts, I asked a co-worker if he thought the setup was
rigid enough. His reply?
" If YOU think it is. YOU'RE the one standing near it!"
LMAO.. live and learn,
Ron


So along the same lines philosophically, I wanted to take my air
compressor off the truck yesterday. It's a 60 gallon vertical. I've
laid some 10 foot planks from the 4 foot high trailer deck to the
ground, and I wheel stuff down on a good 2 wheel cart as I can.
Anyway, when I came to the compressor, I thought I'd give it a try,
betting myself it would be OK, even though it's kind of top heavy. As
I approached the edge and the planks, I asked myself just how
confident I really was, 'cause it was a $900 bet I was making with
myself! Only took half hour to get the starter, motor, and compressor
off. Made it a much safer "bet".

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.



Gerald Miller November 17th 03 01:02 AM

Left hand end mill ?
 
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:51:09 -0500, Brian Lawson
wrote:

Hey Ron,,


On 16 Nov 2003 12:48:19 GMT, yetspam (RKurtz) wrote:

BIG SNIP

Geez, I hate to admit it, but it reminds me of a time when I had to clamp an
irregular shaped piece to the milling table. After using all sorts of step
blocks and clamping bolts, I asked a co-worker if he thought the setup was
rigid enough. His reply?
" If YOU think it is. YOU'RE the one standing near it!"
LMAO.. live and learn,
Ron


So along the same lines philosophically, I wanted to take my air
compressor off the truck yesterday. It's a 60 gallon vertical. I've
laid some 10 foot planks from the 4 foot high trailer deck to the
ground, and I wheel stuff down on a good 2 wheel cart as I can.
Anyway, when I came to the compressor, I thought I'd give it a try,
betting myself it would be OK, even though it's kind of top heavy. As
I approached the edge and the planks, I asked myself just how
confident I really was, 'cause it was a $900 bet I was making with
myself! Only took half hour to get the starter, motor, and compressor
off. Made it a much safer "bet".

MUCH better to say "I might have been able to" than OOPS!
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada


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