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Gunner
 
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http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_s..._a_photograph/


Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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"Gunner" wrote in message
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http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_s..._a_photograph/


Gunner


Imagine if someone on the Right had photochoped the image and published
it...same thing.


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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:16:30 GMT, Gunner
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http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_s..._a_photograph/


Gunner


Zombietime.com? You're clearly running low on blogs to waste your time
on. Fortunately I heard about the perfect place for you - a single
site specially designed for those who've lost the will to leave their
chairs, but where you can do *anything*. http://www.zombo.com/

Wayne
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That's the SFO Cron that I never took at home !

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Gunner wrote:
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_s..._a_photograph/


Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner


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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:18:34 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
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"Gunner" wrote in message
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http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_s..._a_photograph/


Gunner


Imagine if someone on the Right had photochoped the image and published
it...same thing.


Im rather fascinated by the deafening silence on the Left by this
post. It should have incurred dire warnings, drivel about Delay and
so forth.

Could it be that its so overt..that they simply cannot respond?

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner


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Gunner wrote:


Im rather fascinated by the deafening silence on the Left by this
post. It should have incurred dire warnings, drivel about Delay and
so forth.

Could it be that its so overt..that they simply cannot respond?

Gunner


Well, I don't know about the left, but here in San Francisco nobody
takes the Chronicle serious. It's the local gossip blatt. It's the
provincial paper, not a serious news paper.

Abrasha
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Gunner wrote:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:18:34 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
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"Gunner" wrote in message
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http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_s..._a_photograph/


Gunner


Imagine if someone on the Right had photochoped the image and published
it...same thing.




Im rather fascinated by the deafening silence on the Left by this
post. It should have incurred dire warnings, drivel about Delay and
so forth.

Could it be that its so overt..that they simply cannot respond?

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner


Im not sure what you were looking for from the left, Gunner. So what? A
newspaper used a photo that looked good in it's marketing...their job
(like Limbaugh's) is not to tell the news but to sell advertising. They
do that by getting readers (listeners) to grab a paper (tune in) and the
pic they used had "grab", even if it was a gross distortion. Using
Limbaugh again, he does no different. Media is not about facts, it's
about numbers that sell advertising. Limbaugh lies (misquotes, uses
wrong "facts", lies of omission) on an almost daily basis. So what? He
sells advertising by being entertaining enough to get people to tune in
which is really his job. Anyone who thinks the media's job is actually
providing "news" needs to get a dose of reality. So far, the only media
personality I've ever heard admit this fact is Tom Leykis. He makes it
clear that he is not there to do anything but be a whore to get
listeners in order to sell advertising and make himself rich.

On a second note, what's the difference between this pic, and pics of
"kind and caring" people trying to save Terri Schivo? They were
presented as individuals standing up for what they believed yet were
organized by radical nutcase right-wing christians. The difference?
Nothing but your (and everyone's) distorted viewpoint caused by which
end of the right-left scale they stand upon. From the left side of the
scale, these seemingly caring christian individuals were grossly
distorting the facts to further their own agenda and weren't thinking
for themselves, having been "duped" by passinate talk of nutty christian
leaders. From the right wing side, these good christians were fighting
to protect someone who couldn't fight for themselves.

You got no left wing knee jerk response because there is nothing really
to respond to. The post you made was correct....the pic was a
distortion of the whole. So? It happens day in and day out on the left
and right.

I'm still not sure what kind of response you expected. All you did is
truthfully point out what we all SHOULD know but like to igno Media
sources (left, right and center) sell advertising any way they can.
It's their job. The real goal should be to recognize when the side we
support is doing the distorting. We all hate to admit it but even those
we like to align ourselves with (left and right) lie quite often to get
their point across.

Koz

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"Koz" wrote in message
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Photographically speaking, it is a wonderful picture...forget the politics,
it's art!


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On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:25:28 -0700, Koz
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You got no left wing knee jerk response because there is nothing really
to respond to. The post you made was correct....the pic was a
distortion of the whole. So? It happens day in and day out on the left
and right.

I'm still not sure what kind of response you expected. All you did is
truthfully point out what we all SHOULD know but like to igno Media
sources (left, right and center) sell advertising any way they can.
It's their job. The real goal should be to recognize when the side we
support is doing the distorting. We all hate to admit it but even those
we like to align ourselves with (left and right) lie quite often to get
their point across.

Koz



Koz...sorry old buddy..but that was propaganda, not an attempt to sell
advertising. Propaganda of the worst kind. The Big Lie.

One that the Left engages in 24/7

Im reminded of the newspaper headlines..."Cop Slays Teen"

It wast until you got down in the 2nd paragraph that you found out
that the 19yr old male decedent had been involved in a string of armed
robberies over 2 states, which included rape, and 2 murders.

Thats propaganda at its most vile.

Look what they are trying to do to Bill Bennet currently.

Typical Leftist propaganda attempt.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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Let the record show that Gunner Asch wrote back on
Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:34:38 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:25:28 -0700, Koz
wrote:


You got no left wing knee jerk response because there is nothing really
to respond to. The post you made was correct....the pic was a
distortion of the whole. So? It happens day in and day out on the left
and right.

I'm still not sure what kind of response you expected. All you did is
truthfully point out what we all SHOULD know but like to igno Media
sources (left, right and center) sell advertising any way they can.
It's their job. The real goal should be to recognize when the side we
support is doing the distorting. We all hate to admit it but even those
we like to align ourselves with (left and right) lie quite often to get
their point across.

Koz



Koz...sorry old buddy..but that was propaganda, not an attempt to sell
advertising. Propaganda of the worst kind. The Big Lie.

One that the Left engages in 24/7

Im reminded of the newspaper headlines..."Cop Slays Teen"

It wast until you got down in the 2nd paragraph that you found out
that the 19yr old male decedent had been involved in a string of armed
robberies over 2 states, which included rape, and 2 murders.

Thats propaganda at its most vile.

Look what they are trying to do to Bill Bennet currently.

Typical Leftist propaganda attempt.


After "watching" this for thirty years, I find it very difficult to
take anything reported by the major media seriously. Or realistically.

tschus
pyotr

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where, and what significance it all has.
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