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"Roberts has also been linked to the ultra-conservative Federalist
Society. Although Roberts says he has no memory of belonging to that
organization ..."
"... his name is listed in the 1997-98 leadership directory as a
member of the steering committee of its Washington chapter, according
to the Washington Post"

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Cliff wrote:

"Roberts has also been linked to the ultra-conservative Federalist
Society. Although Roberts says he has no memory of belonging to that
organization ..."


What makes the Federalist Society "ultra" conservative?
Isn't that just a swear word? Would that be a little
like the "ultra-liberal" National Lawyers Guild?


"... his name is listed in the 1997-98 leadership directory as a
member of the steering committee of its Washington chapter, according
to the Washington Post"

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Mr. Canoza;

You responded to a mindless commie troll. You must be punished. Hold
out your hand.
(Whack hand with a ruler).

Sincerly,
Stuart Grey.

Rudy Canoza wrote:

What makes the Federalist Society "ultra" conservative? Isn't that just
a swear word? Would that be a little like the "ultra-liberal" National
Lawyers Guild?


The federalist society believes in the written intent of the
constitution, and the seperation of powers that it commands.

Since communist believe in the all powerful central government, in their
view America, as envisioned by the founding fathers, is "ultra
conservative" and evil. Communist hate America, and constantly work to
pervert the constitution.

The Federalist Society statement of Purpose:
http://www.fed-soc.org/ourpurpose.htm

* Law schools and the legal profession are currently strongly
dominated by a form of orthodox liberal ideology which advocates a
centralized and uniform society. While some members of the academic
community have dissented from these views, by and large they are taught
simultaneously with (and indeed as if they were) the law.

* The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a
group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state
of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state
exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers
is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province
and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be.

* The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these
principles and to further their application through its activities. This
entails reordering priorities within the legal system to place a premium
on individual liberty, traditional values, and the rule of law. It also
requires restoring the recognition of the importance of these norms
among lawyers, judges, and law professors.

* In working to achieve these goals, the Society has created a
conservative and libertarian intellectual network that extends to all
levels of the legal community.

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:16:59 -0700, Stuart Grey wrote:

Mr. Canoza;

You responded to a mindless commie troll. You must be punished. Hold
out your hand.
(Whack hand with a ruler).

Sincerly,
Stuart Grey.

Rudy Canoza wrote:

What makes the Federalist Society "ultra" conservative? Isn't that just
a swear word? Would that be a little like the "ultra-liberal" National
Lawyers Guild?


The federalist society believes in the written intent of the
constitution, and the seperation of powers that it commands.

Since communist believe in the all powerful central government, in their
view America, as envisioned by the founding fathers, is "ultra
conservative" and evil. Communist hate America, and constantly work to
pervert the constitution.


Problem is, the way I understand it, it's the neocons that have been
consistently raping the constitution - case in point, the iminent
domain fiasco - they can take your house away as they see fit, if
there's more money in it for them.

Also the rape of the search & seizure protections.

It's the neocons who embrace the nazi ideal of absolute government
control, and are the true enemies of the Constitution.

Thanks,
Rich

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In article , Richard
the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:16:59 -0700, Stuart Grey wrote:


Problem is, the way I understand it, it's the neocons that have been
consistently raping the constitution - case in point, the iminent
domain fiasco - they can take your house away as they see fit, if
there's more money in it for them.

Also the rape of the search & seizure protections.

It's the neocons who embrace the nazi ideal of absolute government
control, and are the true enemies of the Constitution.


It wasn't the conservatives (Rehnquist, Scalia, Thomas,..) who were in
the majority on this 5-4 decision.

Blaming "neocons" for a liberal 5-4 decision is delusional.

And dishonest.


--Tim May


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Tim May wrote:

It wasn't the conservatives (Rehnquist, Scalia, Thomas,..) who were in
the majority on this 5-4 decision.

Blaming "neocons" for a liberal 5-4 decision is delusional.

And dishonest.


--Tim May


Conservatives always get the blame for liberal decisions. Liberals never
accept responsibility.

Consider the movement for military conscription. The Democrats are
behind it, the congressmen for it are Democrats, and they have
effectively used it as a scare tactic against the Republicans.

Most people are not well informed, and don't care to be.

Consider how the main stream press has effectively propagandized the
people with this "Bush lied" fabrication. Bush's SOTU address was
exactly correct, and back up by Tony Blair, yet the main stream press
has sold their lie to many people.

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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:16:59 -0700, Stuart Grey wrote:


Mr. Canoza;

You responded to a mindless commie troll. You must be punished. Hold
out your hand.
(Whack hand with a ruler).

Sincerly,
Stuart Grey.

Rudy Canoza wrote:


What makes the Federalist Society "ultra" conservative? Isn't that just
a swear word? Would that be a little like the "ultra-liberal" National
Lawyers Guild?


The federalist society believes in the written intent of the
constitution, and the seperation of powers that it commands.

Since communist believe in the all powerful central government, in their
view America, as envisioned by the founding fathers, is "ultra
conservative" and evil. Communist hate America, and constantly work to
pervert the constitution.



Problem is, the way I understand it, it's the neocons that have been
consistently raping the constitution - case in point, the iminent
domain fiasco


Justices Stevens, Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer were the justices
that ruled for New London and against property rights.

Justices O'Connor, Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas ruled against it.

It was the liberals, not the conservatives, who ruled against your
property rights.

BTW, None of these are "neocons". Neocons, or neoconservatives, are
usually Jews, and sometimes Roman Catholics, who have changed from
liberals to conservatives. You might accuse Thomas as being a neocon, as
he is black and blacks are traditionally liberals.



- they can take your house away as they see fit, if
there's more money in it for them.

Also the rape of the search & seizure protections.

It's the neocons who embrace the nazi ideal of absolute government
control, and are the true enemies of the Constitution.

Thanks,
Rich


You're going to have to find another way to accuse the conservatives of
perverting the meaning of the constitution, unless you want to argue
that Ginsburg et al are really conservatives. :-)




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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:01:32 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
wrote:

Problem is, the way I understand it, it's the neocons that have been
consistently raping the constitution - case in point, the iminent
domain fiasco - they can take your house away as they see fit, if
there's more money in it for them.



ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 40+ yrs of Liberals chipping away, and in
some cases blasting away large chunks of the Constitution and you
babble about Neocons?

Btw...the Liberal Judges on SCOTUS were the ones who voted for
imminent domain..the conservative ones voted against it.

Stop watching ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN and those erroneous sound bites wont
bite you in the ass.

Gunner

Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends
of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli
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Gunner wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:01:32 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
wrote:


Problem is, the way I understand it, it's the neocons that have been
consistently raping the constitution - case in point, the iminent
domain fiasco - they can take your house away as they see fit, if
there's more money in it for them.




ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 40+ yrs of Liberals chipping away, and in
some cases blasting away large chunks of the Constitution and you
babble about Neocons?

Btw...the Liberal Judges on SCOTUS were the ones who voted for
imminent domain..the conservative ones voted against it.


Three Republican appointees - Kennedy, Souter and
Stevens - voted in favor of the egregiously bad and
statist decision.


Stop watching ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN and those erroneous sound bites wont
bite you in the ass.

Gunner

Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends
of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli

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Stop watching ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN and those erroneous sound bites wont
bite you in the ass.

Gunner



What do you suggest? Getting your information from the "fair and balanced"
network, Fox? Everyone knows that Fox is anything but objective. They are
more biased than any network in the U.S. The only difference is that their
bias is for the right wing. The truth is Fox is the last place you would
want to go for factual information. But I wouldn't expect that you would
know that. By the way, have they found Natalie Holloway yet?

Hawke




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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:01:32 GMT, Richard the Dreaded
Libertarian wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:16:59 -0700, Stuart Grey wrote:

Mr. Canoza;

You responded to a mindless commie troll. You must be punished. Hold
out your hand.
(Whack hand with a ruler).

Sincerly,
Stuart Grey.

Rudy Canoza wrote:

What makes the Federalist Society "ultra" conservative? Isn't that just
a swear word? Would that be a little like the "ultra-liberal" National
Lawyers Guild?


The federalist society believes in the written intent of the
constitution, and the seperation of powers that it commands.

Since communist believe in the all powerful central government, in their
view America, as envisioned by the founding fathers, is "ultra
conservative" and evil. Communist hate America, and constantly work to
pervert the constitution.


Problem is, the way I understand it, it's the neocons that have been
consistently raping the constitution - case in point, the iminent
domain fiasco - they can take your house away as they see fit, if
there's more money in it for them.


Neocons? Ginsburg, Kennedy, Breyer, Souter, and Stevens are
neocons? New London is run by a bunch of neocons? You are
delusional.

(rest snipped)

--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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On 22 Aug 2005 05:21:14 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

Guido wrote in news:de9rda$7a8$1$8302bc10
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Gunner wrote:


Oh oh...seems that the British Gun Ban isnt working. So much for the
Uk being the model for Gun Control, eh wot?


Its working very well. Since the ban there hasn't been anyone bursting
into schools shooting the kids, nor into workplaces shooting their
colleagues.


The worst mass murders of that sort don't involve firearms. Bombs and fire
are the weapons of choice when you want to kill a lot of people.


The neocons know this well.

Unfortunately, it's probably only a matter of time.


The new nuclear arms races being a case in point.
But they can make a quick buck now ....

The US is the worlds largest arms dealer.
Pakistan & India are now both armed with Nukes. Others
too, no doubt.
The neocons are pleased.

Biologicals are probably cheaper ... someone will note this ...
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Cliff
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:57:48 -0400, Cliff wrote:

Biologicals are probably cheaper ... someone will note this ...


Much cheaper...much easier to conceal...potentially much more lethal.

As long as the terrorists stick to just blowing things up, we can survive
them. Even a nuke or two.

But a single terrorist, already infected with, say, a long-incubation
airborne strain of Ebola takes a cruise on a huge luxury liner. The
passengers disembark and disperse throughout the world before the first
symptoms appear...

I only hope our bio research is well-funded and staffed.

--
Thomas

"Driven by fear, we have succumbed to the age-old temptation to sacrifice
liberty on the pretense of obtaining security. Love of security, unfortu-
nately, all too often vanquishes love of liberty." Rep. Ron Paul, R-TX

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