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Barrett rifles in CA?
Interesting link.
http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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On 27 Jul 2005 12:54:17 -0700, jim rozen wrote:
Interesting link. http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html You should know that the guy who runs thegunzone.com has, well, let's just say his idea of a cite to back up his site's comments, are to cite his site's comments. I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. I'd look for someone other than Dean to say that before I believed it. Ask him for a cite, see what he provides. If past history follows, it'll be a link to his own statements. |
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jim rozen wrote:
Interesting link. http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. Jim We used to ship arms to IRAQ - to hold back IRAN. But it was part of the cold war - the Soviets were IRAQ then switched to IRAN when we did the reverse. Things changed after a few years of more issues. Martin -- Martin Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On 27 Jul 2005 12:54:17 -0700, jim rozen
wrote: Interesting link. http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. Jim We shipped a few to the Mojahadeen. Along with several thousand Stinger Anti-Aircraft missiles, which they used to knock down Soviet helicopters quite handily. A number of the Stingers are still missing btw, though the US made a very concerted effort to buy most of them back after the war. Gunner Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli |
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In article , Gunner says...
On 27 Jul 2005 12:54:17 -0700, jim rozen wrote: Interesting link. http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. Jim We shipped a few to the Mojahadeen. Along with several thousand Stinger Anti-Aircraft missiles, which they used to knock down Soviet helicopters quite handily. A number of the Stingers are still missing btw, though the US made a very concerted effort to buy most of them back after the war. Right, but are barrett's claims about that city accurate? Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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"jim rozen" wrote in message ... In article , Gunner says... On 27 Jul 2005 12:54:17 -0700, jim rozen wrote: Interesting link. http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. Jim We shipped a few to the Mojahadeen. Along with several thousand Stinger Anti-Aircraft missiles, which they used to knock down Soviet helicopters quite handily. A number of the Stingers are still missing btw, though the US made a very concerted effort to buy most of them back after the war. Right, but are barrett's claims about that city accurate? Jim If you mean about LA . Yes they are true. The rifle he writes about has since been retrieved by the LA Police, un-repaired. Ronnie has also wrote that he will not do business with any govt. agency in CA while this unconstitutional law is in effect. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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In article , Steve W. says...
If you mean about LA . Yes they are true. The rifle he writes about has since been retrieved by the LA Police, un-repaired. Ronnie has also wrote that he will not do business with any govt. agency in CA while this unconstitutional law is in effect. Maybe some of the pin-heads will see the light. I doubt it though. Too bad about the folks who worked for the city (and state) who relied on those firearms. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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On 28 Jul 2005 11:45:31 -0700, jim rozen
wrote: In article , Steve W. says... If you mean about LA . Yes they are true. The rifle he writes about has since been retrieved by the LA Police, un-repaired. Ronnie has also wrote that he will not do business with any govt. agency in CA while this unconstitutional law is in effect. Maybe some of the pin-heads will see the light. I doubt it though. Too bad about the folks who worked for the city (and state) who relied on those firearms. Jim I am pretty liberal. But it seems to me that the 2nd ammendment does allow ownership of this particular rifle. I support ALL the ammendments. That said, I still think CA is nuts. Especially since these types of weapons are not likely to be purchased by the typical person who would use a gun or rifle in a crime. And if someone was truly bent on sniping at people there are lots of ways this type of rifle could be purchased. I have a customer who placed top a couple times in the last couple years shooting a 50 caliber custom rifle at 1000 yards. He and his other competitors certainly have no trouble buying their big fancy guns. ERS |
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"jim rozen" wrote in message ... In article , Steve W. says... If you mean about LA . Yes they are true. The rifle he writes about has since been retrieved by the LA Police, un-repaired. Ronnie has also wrote that he will not do business with any govt. agency in CA while this unconstitutional law is in effect. Maybe some of the pin-heads will see the light. I doubt it though. Too bad about the folks who worked for the city (and state) who relied on those firearms. Jim I don't feel bad for them at all. It was the LA police chief and thier officers who pushed for the ban and were interviewed about how "bad" these guns are. Real dumb to bite the hand that feeds you. I don't think any of them will see the light, The LA chief has been asked repeatedly about it and he states that the law is a "good thing because it will keep these destructive rifles out of the hands of terrorists". The problem is terrorists don't use them. They tend to use AKs and other already illegal FULL-AUTO weapons. Those have been covered by federal law since the 60s. And by other laws since the 30s. The things I really love it the crap about how the .50 can be used to shoot down airplanes. They then bring out some armor and show just how "bad" the .50 is without mentioning that a 22 can penetrate the aluminum skin on a plane. Or the fact that they would have to hit an engine or kill the flight crew to actually cause a problem. Even then the plane can still fly and land because of the redundant systems. Steve W. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:53:44 -0400, the opaque "Steve W."
clearly wrote: http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html If you mean about LA . Yes they are true. The rifle he writes about has since been retrieved by the LA Police, un-repaired. Ronnie has also wrote that he will not do business with any govt. agency in CA while this unconstitutional law is in effect. 1 Atta Boy goes to Barrett for his stance on that. And I hope the LA DA perse^H^H^H^Hrosecutes the council members for their illegal possession of the gun. Instant karma, wot? -- "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." G.W. Bush Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005 |
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On 28 Jul 2005 07:35:37 -0700, jim rozen
wrote: In article , Gunner says... On 27 Jul 2005 12:54:17 -0700, jim rozen wrote: Interesting link. http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. Jim We shipped a few to the Mojahadeen. Along with several thousand Stinger Anti-Aircraft missiles, which they used to knock down Soviet helicopters quite handily. A number of the Stingers are still missing btw, though the US made a very concerted effort to buy most of them back after the war. Right, but are barrett's claims about that city accurate? Jim About LA? Yes, indeed. Very accurate. Gunner Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli |
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Here is the model that the Canadian forces are using. There was a piece
on a CBC news program of a team in Afganistan picking off targets at over a mile. http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-tac50.htm jim rozen wrote: Interesting link. http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. Jim |
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jim rozen wrote:
: Interesting link. : http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html : I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. --Well the good news there is that it's been out-evolved by the new 20mm rifles, heh. -- "Steamboat Ed" Haas : Just another fart in Hacking the Trailing Edge! : the Elevator of Life... http://www.nmpproducts.com/intro.htm ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words--- |
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:56:09 GMT, steamer wrote:
jim rozen wrote: : Interesting link. : http://www.thegunzone.com/shot/barrett.html : I was unaware that our government supplied them to AQ btw. --Well the good news there is that it's been out-evolved by the new 20mm rifles, heh. Which have been illegal since 1968 Gunner Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli |
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