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I have searched this group for information about obtainable accuracy or
surface grinders and have found some interesting information but have not found an answer to my specific question. My question is what maximum deviation from flatness should one expect to achieve when resurfacing a surface grinder table? This is assuming the machine is in good working order. The surface grinder in question is a K. O. Lee Model 714 hand feed grinder with conventional ways, not ball ways. The table has one V and one flat way, and the saddle has two V ways. The spindle taper has no perceptible runout. The wheel hub has no provisions for balancing. The area being ground on the table is 6" x 13". I contacted K. O. Lee and the tech rep said .000050". I looked at their website, and it indicates that "Turcite table ways and hand scraped ways guarantee accuracies for work surface flatness up to 0.000050." Since they use the qualifier "up to", this statement indicates to me that their best precision equipment can achieve these accuracies. I don't believe these accuracies apply to a run of the mill hand surface grinder, but I may be wrong. The only information that I could find that addresses the flatness of a surface grinder table is in Machine Tool Reconditioning. This book indicates that the tolerance allowed in the longitudinal direction is ..0002" per foot of table length. The tolerance in the transverse direction is .0004" in the table width. In my initial grinding I have achieved a longitudinal tolerance of .00018" and a traverse tolerance of .00046". I believe I can reduce these tolerances slightly with further finish grinding. I would like any feedback from those of you in this group that are knowledgeable about surface grinding and the tolerances one can expect to achieve from this type equipment. I would also appreciate any recommendations on technique to achieve maximum flatness. I am using a new Norton 7" x 1/2" 46J 5SG (Seeded Gel) grinding wheel. The wheel is diamond trued to a sharp edge. I am using a heavy mist coolant that seems to cool adequately. I longitudinally feed quickly and use a cross feed of .0050. These longitudinal and cross feeds are K. O. Lee's recommendation for manual grinders. One question that I have concerns wheel truing between finish passes. My finish pass depth is in the range of .0001" to .0002". On the completion of a finish pass the grinding wheel still seems to have a sharp edge and is not glazed. What is the preferred practice for maximizing flatness? Should one re-dress the wheel after every complete traverse of the table? I find that if you re-dress the wheel it is much more difficult to return to the point where you are taking off between .0001 to .0002" on the first traverse. I usually err on the light side which may result in many unnecessary traverses. I also may try to use a larger 8" by 3/4" wheel. K. O. Lee recommends using as wide a wheel as possible, because it provides a better wash action. Any thoughts? I know that I have provided a lot of information, but I want to provide as complete a picture of the situation as possible. I have great respect for the knowledge of this group, and all on-topic responses will be greatly appreciated. However, please do not start a discussion of what type of machine I should replace this one with. The long hours of cranking the handwheels are therapeutic ![]() Ron |
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