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drilling through 4" of acrylic without melting the stuff?
I've drilled holes in 5/8" acrylic to depth of about 3" with the lathe
at about 500 rpm and using my not-too-expensive 118 degree bits. I use Cool Tool II or some other coolant and don't drill more than about 1/4" at a time without withdrawing the bit to clean and apply a bit more coolant if necessary. Given the limited tailstock travel, I am also readjusting that a lot. So it takes a while to get to full depth, but it works. I've read that a wider drill angle (e.g. 135 degrees) may be better, but I have not tried that yet. First time I tried, I melted it too. -Bruno random wrote: I'm looking for wisdom, subject is drilling a 4" long 9/64" hole through a rod of extruded acrylic. After about an inch and a half the acrylic and/or the bit are hot enough to melt the acrylic. I've tried various speeds and find that 80rpm is about least bad. I've tried various grinds on the tip. Bottom line appears to be 80 rpm for the first inch then take it out of the lathe and woodpecker with a variable-speed drill, hoping someone knows a better way. tia. |
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drilling through 4" of acrylic without melting the stuff?
random wrote: I'm looking for wisdom, subject is drilling a 4" long 9/64" hole through a rod of extruded acrylic. After about an inch and a half the acrylic and/or the bit are hot enough to melt the acrylic. I've tried various speeds and find that 80rpm is about least bad. I've tried various grinds on the tip. Bottom line appears to be 80 rpm for the first inch then take it out of the lathe and woodpecker with a variable-speed drill, hoping someone knows a better way. tia. I think you have to peck at this, allowing it time to cool. You could drill about 1/2" each peck, then retract. Leave the tailstock base unclamped, and just slide the whole tailstock forward to drill, and pull back to extract the chips. This is much faster than the crank. Use a wet brush to cool the drill and knock the chips off it. The chips carry much of the heat, so getting them out of the hole is important. Also, they make a lot of friction when packed into the flutes. Use a squirt gun or little pump sprayer bottle to get water all the way back in the hole. If the hole needs to look good, drill undersize and then ream, or make a custom boring bar just a hair under the full hole size. Finally, when you are just about to break through, clean off the bit and advance real slowly with the crank, to minimize chipping of the exit hole. Jon |
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drilling through 4" of acrylic without melting the stuff?
I'm looking for wisdom, subject is drilling a 4" long 9/64" hole
through a rod of extruded acrylic. After about an inch and a half the acrylic and/or the bit are hot enough to melt the acrylic. Good words from others. I think it's also important to grind a flat on the cutting edge so it scraps instead of cuts the plastic. Similar to drilling brass when you don't want the drill bit to grab. Earle Rich Mont Vernon, NH |
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drilling through 4" of acrylic without melting the stuff?
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:51:40 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote: random wrote: I'm looking for wisdom, subject is drilling a 4" long 9/64" hole through a rod of extruded acrylic. After about an inch and a half the acrylic and/or the bit are hot enough to melt the acrylic. I've tried various speeds and find that 80rpm is about least bad. I've tried various grinds on the tip. Bottom line appears to be 80 rpm for the first inch then take it out of the lathe and woodpecker with a variable-speed drill, hoping someone knows a better way. tia. I think you have to peck at this, allowing it time to cool. You could drill about 1/2" each peck, then retract. Leave the tailstock base unclamped, and just slide the whole tailstock forward to drill, and pull back to extract the chips. This is much faster than the crank. Use a wet brush to cool the drill and knock the chips off it. The chips carry much of the heat, so getting them out of the hole is important. Also, they make a lot of friction when packed into the flutes. Use a squirt gun or little pump sprayer bottle to get water all the way back in the hole. If the hole needs to look good, drill undersize and then ream, or make a custom boring bar just a hair under the full hole size. Finally, when you are just about to break through, clean off the bit and advance real slowly with the crank, to minimize chipping of the exit hole. Jon In the machine shops I work in, they simply use flood coolant just like they would with metal. Seems to work for them. Oil for the most part, though some use toilet water. Gunner "The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore. True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know." -- P.J O'Rourke (1989) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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drilling through 4" of acrylic without melting the stuff?
random wrote:
I'm looking for wisdom, subject is drilling a 4" long 9/64" hole through a rod of extruded acrylic. After about an inch and a half the acrylic and/or the bit are hot enough to melt the acrylic. I've tried various speeds and find that 80rpm is about least bad. I've tried various grinds on the tip. Bottom line appears to be 80 rpm for the first inch then take it out of the lathe and woodpecker with a variable-speed drill, hoping someone knows a better way. tia. If this is a one-off, just tough it out with what you've got. But if you're going to be doing a lot of this work, you really want to get a drill bit ground specially for acrylic, like at http://www.craftics.com/products.cfm...ken=3841 3811 Most plastic dealers/fabricators will have these drills in stock. When I did stuff like this we used "plastic polish" (a white creamy fluid) as a lubricant. If you're really making a tube out of a rod, and you'll be doing a lot of it (thousands of pieces), you can probably get these cast exactly to your specifications. If the properties of acrylic aren't essential you might want to try Delrin or Nylon as a raw material, it's a whole lot nicer to work with. Tim. |
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drilling through 4" of acrylic without melting the stuff?
Maybe a pilot hole and then the regular size. With a pilot you could push water
through the hole from the bottom. Anything to get away from WD40. Bob AZ |
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drilling through 4" of acrylic without melting the stuff?
Spray mist would be nice. You have the right idea with low rpm. You will
need to peck with a small amount of time in cut and enough time out of the hole for tool to dissipate heat. If mist (or flood) is not an option, use an airgun with a small orifice to direct air into the hole. Plastics generally develope heat rapidly and usually shrink back when tool is removed and part cools. When you put tool back into hole it is a bit smaller than the drill, but usually not so much that the drill cuts, rather it rubs and expounds the heat problem. A coolant fed drill would be a good thing, but the smallest size available seems to be 3/16. michael |
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I would also like to chime in on using tube instead of rod too. Advantages here are having the inside of the hole clear too, something not likely to happen with drilled rod. Hopefully sizes are a bit flexible. Generally with acrylic you would want a pointier bit rather than a flatter bit, but sharpness is very important. As mentioned before, you want to let the bit scrape or cut the hole, not just creating heat and melting through. Lubrication is very important. At Just Plastics (another plug!!) we use 3 differant things, though not at the same time. In this case, we would rub the bit with soap. You would want to use a soap without perfume or color as they might attack the stressed material (we use IVORY). Second is flooding it with water soluable oil. A bit messy, but can give you a beautiful hole with some patience. Third would be some sort of Silicone spray lube. Good luck and feel free to contact me if I can be of any more help. |
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