Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 16-Feb-05 At About 17:58:45, Joseph Meehan wrote to All
Subject: Programmable Thermostat - Problem

JM From: "Joseph Meehan"

JM Doobielicious wrote:
Hi All,

I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.


JM There sound be an adjustment for that.

Not really, not all of them have that adjustment.

JM Look for anticipator

An anticipator doesn't control the on temp it controls how quickly the unit
shuts off.


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Hi All,

I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.

I think it might be too sensitive. For example. If it is set for 21
degrees and the temperature drops to 20.9 to furnace cuts on. I have cast
iron rads (oil/hot water) so anyways the temperature drops to 20.9 and the
furnace cuts on and stays on until it reaches 21 degrees. This only takes
like 40 seconds or so. The 30-40 seconds later the temperature drops by .1
back to 20.9 then the furnace cuts on and so on and so on and so on.

Is the thermostat (Noma) too sensitive? I mena the furnacing cutting on and
off every 40 seconds is driving me crazy. You know the noise of the furnace
and all. To me it's just burning oil. The house is warm and could use a
drop or 2 before it kicks back on but every .1 drop in the temperatre is a
little mush.

This is my first time having a programmable thermostat. Is this normal. The
furnace is a Veismann and has been serviced recently and is actually only 3
years old.

Any advice or comments?

Doobielicious wrote:
Hi All,

I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.

I think it might be too sensitive. For example. If it is set for 21
degrees and the temperature drops to 20.9 to furnace cuts on. I have
cast iron rads (oil/hot water) so anyways the temperature drops to
20.9 and the furnace cuts on and stays on until it reaches 21
degrees. This only takes like 40 seconds or so. The 30-40 seconds
later the temperature drops by .1 back to 20.9 then the furnace cuts
on and so on and so on and so on.

Is the thermostat (Noma) too sensitive? I mena the furnacing cutting
on and off every 40 seconds is driving me crazy. You know the noise
of the furnace and all. To me it's just burning oil. The house is
warm and could use a drop or 2 before it kicks back on but every .1
drop in the temperatre is a little mush.

This is my first time having a programmable thermostat. Is this
normal. The furnace is a Veismann and has been serviced recently and
is actually only 3 years old.

Any advice or comments?

There sound be an adjustment for that. Look for anticipator or for a
degree spread adjustment. They are two different things, and I can't tell
which one may be set or functioning improperly.

--
Joseph Meehan

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Hi All,

I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.

I think it might be too sensitive. For example. If it is set for 21
degrees and the temperature drops to 20.9 to furnace cuts on. I have cast
iron rads (oil/hot water) so anyways the temperature drops to 20.9 and the
furnace cuts on and stays on until it reaches 21 degrees. This only takes
like 40 seconds or so. The 30-40 seconds later the temperature drops by .1
back to 20.9 then the furnace cuts on and so on and so on and so on.

Is the thermostat (Noma) too sensitive? I mena the furnacing cutting on and
off every 40 seconds is driving me crazy. You know the noise of the furnace
and all. To me it's just burning oil. The house is warm and could use a
drop or 2 before it kicks back on but every .1 drop in the temperatre is a
little mush.

This is my first time having a programmable thermostat. Is this normal. The
furnace is a Veismann and has been serviced recently and is actually only 3
years old.

Any advice or comments?

This is Turtle.

You need to check the paperwork for the thermostat and see about the settings of
the thermostat as to being set up for heat pump, straight electric heat, or gas
heat. Some have switches on them that your suppose to set to burn different
fuels like natural gas or oil or Electric heat.

Now it sounds like you got it set for electric and your burning oil. When all
else fails -- read the instructions.

TURTLE

HvacTech2 wrote:
Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 16-Feb-05 At About 17:58:45, Joseph Meehan wrote to All
Subject: Programmable Thermostat - Problem

From: "Joseph Meehan"

Doobielicious wrote:
Hi All,

I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.


There sound be an adjustment for that.

Not really, not all of them have that adjustment.

Fat fingers and a spell check the original should have ready "There
SHOULD be an adjustment for that.

Yes, I guess they don't all have it.


Look for anticipator

An anticipator doesn't control the on temp it controls how quickly
the unit shuts off.

I agree, but could that not be the OP's problem?



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'An anticipator doesn't control the on temp it controls how quickly the
unit shuts off.'


Indirectly . Actually, the anticipator determines how soon to start
another 'on cycle' . Adjust the anticipator so you get a 2 f. drop in
house temp before the next on cycle starts.

Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 17-Feb-05 At About 07:43:51, Joseph Meehan wrote to All
Subject: Programmable Thermostat - Problem

JM From: "Joseph Meehan"

JM HvacTech2 wrote:
Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 16-Feb-05 At About 17:58:45, Joseph Meehan wrote to All Subject:
Programmable Thermostat - Problem

From: "Joseph Meehan"

Doobielicious wrote:
Hi All,

I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.

There sound be an adjustment for that.

Not really, not all of them have that adjustment.

JM Fat fingers and a spell check the original should have ready "There
JM SHOULD be an adjustment for that.

JM Yes, I guess they don't all have it.


Look for anticipator

An anticipator doesn't control the on temp it controls how quickly
the unit shuts off.

JM I agree, but could that not be the OP's problem?


Nope, he says it is coming on too soon. I didn't catch the brand he put in
but if it is hunter or lux that could be the whole reason right there. those
cheapies usually cause quite a few problems.

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Hi HVAC, hope you are having a nice day

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Hf From: (HVAC fella)

Hf 'An anticipator doesn't control the on temp it controls how quickly
Hf the unit shuts off.'

Hf Indirectly . Actually, the anticipator determines how soon to start
Hf another 'on cycle' . Adjust the anticipator so you get a 2 f. drop
Hf in house temp before the next on cycle starts.

Wrong as usual, The heat anticipator causes the unit to shut down earlier to
help keep overheating down. the amp draw of the gas valve or electronic
ignition is run through a coil of wire wrapped around a card which acts as a
small heater. this small heater is right under the helicoil and causes it to
react a little quicker. you really need to get some training before you try
to work on this equipment.



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I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.

I think it might be too sensitive. For example. If it is set for 21
degrees and the temperature drops to 20.9 to furnace cuts on. I have cast
iron rads (oil/hot water) so anyways the temperature drops to 20.9 and the
furnace cuts on and stays on until it reaches 21 degrees. This only takes
like 40 seconds or so. The 30-40 seconds later the temperature drops by .1
back to 20.9 then the furnace cuts on and so on and so on and so on.

Is the thermostat (Noma) too sensitive? I mena the furnacing cutting on and
off every 40 seconds is driving me crazy. You know the noise of the furnace
and all. To me it's just burning oil. The house is warm and could use a
drop or 2 before it kicks back on but every .1 drop in the temperatre is a
little mush.

This is my first time having a programmable thermostat. Is this normal. The
furnace is a Veismann and has been serviced recently and is actually only 3
years old.

Any advice or comments?


Are you sure that the problem is with the thermostat, and not some
problem with the furnace? Shove the heat setting all the way up to
90, and if you still get short 40 second bursts while the house
comes up to temp, then it's a furnace problem.

Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 17-Feb-05 At About 19:18:37, Joseph Meehan wrote to All
Subject: Programmable Thermostat - Problem

JM From: "Joseph Meehan"


Nope, he says it is coming on too soon. I didn't catch the brand he
put in but if it is hunter or lux that could be the whole reason
right there. those cheapies usually cause quite a few problems.

JM I don't know, it seems if it was shutting down too early, it would
JM then have not supplied enough heat to keep it from recycling on.

In his original post it was coming on at 20.9 when he had it set for 21 that
tells me it is a digital which means no anticipator. but even so, if it was
an anticipator it would cycle on and off very quickly and would let the house
cool too much.

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My programmable stat has a setting called "temp swing" and it is in
degrees. If I set the swing temp to 3 degrees and set my set temp to
70, the furnace will come on when it reaches 67 and shut off when it
reaches 73. Obviously, that's kind of extreme. I have the swing set to
"1" and I get a reasonable cycle.

I cant address your problem but can say short cycling is killing the
life of your Boiler controls and it never reaches its rated efficiency
on short cycling. My boiler runs for 1/2 hr Minimum and I will guess
total efficiency is not reached for 5-10 minutes. Short cycling takes
its toll on components rated for only so many cycles as all are in
design. Get a Pro out, get it set right, and understand operation of
what you have. A Pro will direct you.. Add up your cycles , per day -
year, then you may understand,

HvacTech2 wrote:
Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 17-Feb-05 At About 07:43:51, Joseph Meehan wrote to All
Subject: Programmable Thermostat - Problem

From: "Joseph Meehan"

HvacTech2 wrote:
Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 16-Feb-05 At About 17:58:45, Joseph Meehan wrote to All Subject:
Programmable Thermostat - Problem

From: "Joseph Meehan"

Doobielicious wrote:
Hi All,

I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.

There sound be an adjustment for that.

Not really, not all of them have that adjustment.

Fat fingers and a spell check the original should have ready "There
SHOULD be an adjustment for that.

Yes, I guess they don't all have it.


Look for anticipator

An anticipator doesn't control the on temp it controls how quickly
the unit shuts off.

I agree, but could that not be the OP's problem?


Nope, he says it is coming on too soon. I didn't catch the brand he
put in but if it is hunter or lux that could be the whole reason
right there. those cheapies usually cause quite a few problems.

I don't know, it seems if it was shutting down too early, it would then
have not supplied enough heat to keep it from recycling on.

In any case I think Turtle may have hit the right thing.


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It's a NOMA 5-1-1 programmable thermostat. Oil/Hot water, cast iron rads,
Veismann furnace.


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Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 17-Feb-05 At About 07:43:51, Joseph Meehan wrote to All
Subject: Programmable Thermostat - Problem

JM From: "Joseph Meehan"

JM HvacTech2 wrote:
Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 16-Feb-05 At About 17:58:45, Joseph Meehan wrote to All Subject:
Programmable Thermostat - Problem

From: "Joseph Meehan"

Doobielicious wrote:
Hi All,

I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.

There sound be an adjustment for that.

Not really, not all of them have that adjustment.

JM Fat fingers and a spell check the original should have ready "There
JM SHOULD be an adjustment for that.

JM Yes, I guess they don't all have it.


Look for anticipator

An anticipator doesn't control the on temp it controls how quickly
the unit shuts off.

JM I agree, but could that not be the OP's problem?


Nope, he says it is coming on too soon. I didn't catch the brand he put in
but if it is hunter or lux that could be the whole reason right there.
those
cheapies usually cause quite a few problems.

-= HvacTech2 =-


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what or who is turtle. Did I miss someone's reply?


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HvacTech2 wrote:
Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 17-Feb-05 At About 07:43:51, Joseph Meehan wrote to All
Subject: Programmable Thermostat - Problem

From: "Joseph Meehan"

HvacTech2 wrote:
Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 16-Feb-05 At About 17:58:45, Joseph Meehan wrote to All Subject:
Programmable Thermostat - Problem

From: "Joseph Meehan"

Doobielicious wrote:
Hi All,

I have a 5-1-1 programmable thermostat, but it's driving me crazy.

There sound be an adjustment for that.

Not really, not all of them have that adjustment.

Fat fingers and a spell check the original should have ready "There
SHOULD be an adjustment for that.

Yes, I guess they don't all have it.


Look for anticipator

An anticipator doesn't control the on temp it controls how quickly
the unit shuts off.

I agree, but could that not be the OP's problem?


Nope, he says it is coming on too soon. I didn't catch the brand he
put in but if it is hunter or lux that could be the whole reason
right there. those cheapies usually cause quite a few problems.

I don't know, it seems if it was shutting down too early, it would
then
have not supplied enough heat to keep it from recycling on.

In any case I think Turtle may have hit the right thing.


-= HvacTech2 =-


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"Doobielicious" wrote

what or who is turtle. Did I miss someone's reply?

Fear the turtle!

Well, not if Clemson beats them again on Tuesday.....

Doobielicious wrote:
what or who is turtle. Did I miss someone's reply?

It would seem you did. Here is his reply:

"This is Turtle.

"You need to check the paperwork for the thermostat and see about the
settings of
the thermostat as to being set up for heat pump, straight electric heat, or
gas
heat. Some have switches on them that your suppose to set to burn different
fuels like natural gas or oil or Electric heat.

"Now it sounds like you got it set for electric and your burning oil. When
all
else fails -- read the instructions.

"TURTLE"


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26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

Ah it's set for oil!!!.




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Doobielicious wrote:
what or who is turtle. Did I miss someone's reply?

It would seem you did. Here is his reply:

"This is Turtle.

"You need to check the paperwork for the thermostat and see about the
settings of
the thermostat as to being set up for heat pump, straight electric heat,
or
gas
heat. Some have switches on them that your suppose to set to burn
different
fuels like natural gas or oil or Electric heat.

"Now it sounds like you got it set for electric and your burning oil. When
all
else fails -- read the instructions.

"TURTLE"


--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

Hi Joseph, hope you are having a nice day

On 18-Feb-05 At About 07:27:38, Joseph Meehan wrote to All
Subject: Programmable Thermostat - Problem

JM From: "Joseph Meehan"

JM Doobielicious wrote:
what or who is turtle. Did I miss someone's reply?

JM It would seem you did. Here is his reply:

JM "This is Turtle.

JM "You need to check the paperwork for the thermostat and see about the
JM settings of the thermostat as to being set up for heat pump,
JM straight electric heat, or gas heat. Some have switches on them that
JM your suppose to set to burn different fuels like natural gas or oil
JM or Electric heat.

JM "Now it sounds like you got it set for electric and your burning oil.
JM When all else fails -- read the instructions.

I didn't see this either but it is wrong anyways. The only difference between
those fuels is how the fan is handled. in electric or heat pump it turns the
fan on with the call for heat. with gas it doesn't turn the fan on but lets
the fan control on the furnace do it. that is why those selections are
there.

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