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Chemqueries December 12th 04 11:33 PM

Doorbell that you can shut off?
 
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like to be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.

ABC December 12th 04 11:50 PM


"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can

shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like to

be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to

several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.


I can't think of anything easier to do. Just wire in a switch at a
convenient location.



[email protected] December 13th 04 12:09 AM

A jaw type bear trap put over outside button should deter unwanted
rings. Otherwise just a wire a switch by the door, down by the
breakers, or right next to the ringer unit. It would be even easier
to wire the swicth directly from the 18V transformer, which does not
pose a serious electrical risk. .


Tony Hwang December 13th 04 12:11 AM

ABC wrote:
"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...

Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can


shut

off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like to


be

able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to


several

hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.



I can't think of anything easier to do. Just wire in a switch at a
convenient location.


Hmmm,
I'd install timer programmed to your needs in-line with the bell circuit
by the week days. Or remote control or manual switch(you have to
remember to use this tho when to turn it off or on)
Tony

Joseph Meehan December 13th 04 01:34 AM

Chemqueries wrote:
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I
can shut off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend
mornings, I'd like to be able to deactivate the doorbell or switch
the sound off. I've been to several hardware stores and haven't
found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any suggestions.


After making sure nothing else is running off the transformer, I suggest
using a switch to cut off the 120V feed. You could use a timer type or with
an X-10 system you could have a remote no wire switch in a convenient
location away from the transformer.

--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math



JerryD\(upstateNY\) December 13th 04 02:56 AM

Switching off the door bell will just make the people knock on the door.
How do you plan on stopping that ?

--
JerryD(upstateNY)

"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can
shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like to
be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to
several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.



Edwin Pawlowski December 13th 04 03:21 AM


"JerryD(upstateNY)" wrote in message
Switching off the door bell will just make the people knock on the door.
How do you plan on stopping that ?


Do Not Disturb sign?

My doorbell has not worked in 23 years. If you have to ring the bell to
find me I probably don't want to see you anyway. If you are a friend, you
know what to do.



HorneTD December 13th 04 04:10 AM

Chemqueries wrote:
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like to be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.


May I suggest that you take a completely different tack. My father; God
rest his soul; worked three jobs to support eight children and sleeping
in on Sunday morning was one of his few luxuries of life. When I found
him working away in the little crawl space over the front porch on a
Saturday evening I failed to connect it to the previous Sunday's visit
by Proselytizers for one of the Saturday sabbath groups with an
evangelical approach to heathen slothfulness on Sunday mornings. Our
house being a ranch which my father had built with his own hands my
bedroom window had the best view of the front porch. Sunday morning at
seven my father and brother and I were watching the walk from a half
inch gap under the nearly drawn shade in the room I shared with my
brother. My father did not invite my sisters or my mom to this event.
As he apparently expected the missionaries came up the walk and pushed
the doorbell. There followed a whooshing sound and the four sprinkler
heads my father had installed in the porch roof the night before began
discharging nearly forty gallons of water of water per minute onto their
pious forms. We had no trouble with them after that.
--
Tom H

Tony Hwang December 13th 04 04:27 AM

HorneTD wrote:
Chemqueries wrote:

Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I
can shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd
like to be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to
several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.



May I suggest that you take a completely different tack. My father; God
rest his soul; worked three jobs to support eight children and sleeping
in on Sunday morning was one of his few luxuries of life. When I found
him working away in the little crawl space over the front porch on a
Saturday evening I failed to connect it to the previous Sunday's visit
by Proselytizers for one of the Saturday sabbath groups with an
evangelical approach to heathen slothfulness on Sunday mornings. Our
house being a ranch which my father had built with his own hands my
bedroom window had the best view of the front porch. Sunday morning at
seven my father and brother and I were watching the walk from a half
inch gap under the nearly drawn shade in the room I shared with my
brother. My father did not invite my sisters or my mom to this event.
As he apparently expected the missionaries came up the walk and pushed
the doorbell. There followed a whooshing sound and the four sprinkler
heads my father had installed in the porch roof the night before began
discharging nearly forty gallons of water of water per minute onto their
pious forms. We had no trouble with them after that.
--
Tom H

Hi,
Good thing, your dad did not get sued for that. You Aamericans love to
sue, right? LOL.
Tony

Chemqueries December 13th 04 05:28 AM

From: HorneTD

May I suggest that you take a completely different tack. My father; God rest

his soul; worked three jobs to support eight children and sleeping in on
Sunday morning was one of his few luxuries of life.
the missionaries came up the walk and pushedthe doorbell. There followed a

whooshing sound and the four sprinkler
heads my father had installed in the porch roof the night before began
discharging nearly forty gallons of water of water per minute onto theirpious

forms. We had no trouble with them after that.
--

************************************************
Thanks for that wonderful story. What a terrific solution to the problem. I'll
bet the proselytizers didn't bother anyone else that morning either!


Chemqueries December 13th 04 05:30 AM

From: "ABC"

I can't think of anything easier to do. Just wire in a switch at aconvenient

location.

Thanks for your reply. I'm very ignorant about wiring. I'll probably have to
hire someone to do that.

Chemqueries December 13th 04 05:40 AM

From:

A jaw type bear trap put over outside button should deter unwantedrings.


Speaking of lawsuits. . .

Otherwise just a wire a switch by the door, down by thebreakers, or right

next to the ringer unit. It would be even easier
to wire the swicth directly from the 18V transformer, which does notpose a

serious electrical risk. .

Thanks for your help. I'll have to get someone to help me with the electrical
work.

Joseph Meehan December 13th 04 01:53 PM

Chemqueries wrote:
From: "Joseph Meehan"
After making sure nothing else is running off the transformer, I
suggest using a switch to cut off the 120V feed. You could use a
timer type or with an X-10 system you could have a remote no wire
switch in a convenient location away from the transformer

*************************************************

Thanks for your help. Sorry for my ignorance, but can you tell me
what an "X-10 system" is.


It is available at Radio shack and smarthome.com as well as many other
places. It sends a signal though your house wiring to control switches and
other devices from other places in your home. It can make automation a lot
easier than hard wiring would be.

--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math



rck December 13th 04 03:09 PM

I'd like to see some sort of device that would disable the doorbell for
thirty seconds after the button was pressed the first time. I don't know why
people think I'll get to the door faster if they ring the bell a dozen times
instead of once.

Bob

"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
From: HorneTD


May I suggest that you take a completely different tack. My father; God
rest

his soul; worked three jobs to support eight children and sleeping in on
Sunday morning was one of his few luxuries of life.
the missionaries came up the walk and pushedthe doorbell. There followed
a

whooshing sound and the four sprinkler
heads my father had installed in the porch roof the night before began
discharging nearly forty gallons of water of water per minute onto
theirpious

forms. We had no trouble with them after that.
--

************************************************
Thanks for that wonderful story. What a terrific solution to the problem.
I'll
bet the proselytizers didn't bother anyone else that morning either!




ABC December 13th 04 03:24 PM


"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
From: "ABC"


I can't think of anything easier to do. Just wire in a switch at

aconvenient
location.

Thanks for your reply. I'm very ignorant about wiring. I'll probably have

to
hire someone to do that.


Nah, You can use any old switch. I would get one from Radio Shack. Just
follow the wire from the doorbell. Cut one wire any place along the way and
hook in the switch. If necessary hook a piece of wire so you can put the
switch somewhere else.



[email protected] December 13th 04 08:58 PM





A jaw type bear trap put over outside button should deter unwanted
rings. Otherwise just a wire a switch by the door, down by the
breakers, or right next to the ringer unit. It would be even easier
to wire the swicth directly from the 18V transformer, which does not
pose a serious electrical risk. .


Oh, now I have to go buy a wolf-trap, weld it open, and nail it up
over my doorbell with a "no soliciting" sign...


Takoma Park Volunteer Fire Department Postmaster December 13th 04 11:29 PM

rck wrote:
I'd like to see some sort of device that would disable the doorbell for
thirty seconds after the button was pressed the first time. I don't know why
people think I'll get to the door faster if they ring the bell a dozen times
instead of once.

Bob


All you need is a timing relay of the appropriate voltage that will open
the circuit on application of power and will not make it available to
the button again for whatever interval you set.
--
Tom H

rck December 13th 04 11:54 PM


"Takoma Park Volunteer Fire Department Postmaster"
wrote in message news:1Bpvd.7284$xa6.5446@trnddc09...
rck wrote:
I'd like to see some sort of device that would disable the doorbell for
thirty seconds after the button was pressed the first time. I don't know
why people think I'll get to the door faster if they ring the bell a
dozen times instead of once.

Bob


All you need is a timing relay of the appropriate voltage that will open
the circuit on application of power and will not make it available to the
button again for whatever interval you set.
--
Tom H


Time delay relays can be expensive. For example a 24AG-KRP11 Interval On
relay is almost $80. I suppose I could use an IC to drive an inexpensive
relay but then I'd have to build a power supply. How many milliamps are
available from a doorbell transformer?

Bob



Dan December 14th 04 03:39 AM

My doorbell has not worked in 23 years. If you have to ring the bell to
find me I probably don't want to see you anyway. If you are a

friend, you
know what to do.




Love that! Another suggestion: a NO SOLICITING sign. "NO I DO NOT want
FREE COPY of THE WATCHTOWER!!!" ;-) Take it from me, the irritating
idiots will actually TURN AROUND & LEAVE when the see it.

Seriously, if KNOCKING is less of a concern, go to radio shack (probably
even Home Depot) and get a single pole single throw toggle switch.
Drill a hole in the side of the door bell cover & install the switch.
Wire it in series with one of the door bell wires (doesn't matter which,
but if you have both front & back door bells, make sure it's the door
where you expect annoyance, probably the front). Just take a wire off
the terminal on the bell, solder it to the switch, then run a wire from
the other switch terminal to where that 1st wire was attached. Don't
worry; we're talking 14 volts or so here, you're not going to
electrocute anyone. Just flip it OFF before retiring on the weekend ;-)

Dan



JennP December 14th 04 06:19 PM


"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can

shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like to

be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to

several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.


I don't know, but what a fabulous idea! I'd love something like that to
prevent my barking dog from waking up the kids at naptime. The doorbell is
the only thing that makes her bark.

JennP.



Jeff Prevett December 16th 04 02:53 AM

This is quite simple to do. You can even keep your existing doorbell. Go
buy a single toggle single throw switch. If you have a plastic case (the
'cheap' type that builders put into houses), you can drill a hole in it and
put the switch in the case. You have two ways to electrically connect the
switch. You can interupt the power supply or the switch. Personally, I
would interput the power supply to the bell. Find the two wires that
connect the doorbell to the transformer disconnect the positive one
(probably the red one if red and green are the two wire colours). Connect
one side of the switch to the wire that you disconnected and connect the
other side of the switch to the terminal on the bell. It is good pratice to
interput the +ve line, but since we're working with very low DC voltage it
really doesn't matter. If the power from the transformer goes to the
doorbell button, you have to connect it like the later case. Simply put the
switch in as in the former case.

Here is a little ASCII schematic. It's the same schematic for both setups,
except in the second setup, the SPDT-switch is between the doorbell button
and the doorbell:

+ ---------------------|SPDT-switch|-----------
|
|
Doorbell button
|
12-24VDC |
Doorbell
|
|
- ---------------------------------------------------

NOTE: by doing this, if you have a light on the pushbutton (outside), it
will go off when you turn off the switch.

Give me a shout if you need a better picture or this doesn't make sense (I'm
an electrical engineering student -3rd year, so this is pretty basic stuff
to me and I sometimes forget that it isn't to others).

Jeff


"JennP" wrote in message
news:J8Gvd.654778$mD.653931@attbi_s02...

"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can

shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like
to

be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to

several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.


I don't know, but what a fabulous idea! I'd love something like that to
prevent my barking dog from waking up the kids at naptime. The doorbell is
the only thing that makes her bark.

JennP.





Jeff Wisnia December 17th 04 12:08 AM

Jeff Prevett wrote:

This is quite simple to do. You can even keep your existing doorbell. Go
buy a single toggle single throw switch. If you have a plastic case (the
'cheap' type that builders put into houses), you can drill a hole in it and
put the switch in the case. You have two ways to electrically connect the
switch. You can interupt the power supply or the switch. Personally, I
would interput the power supply to the bell. Find the two wires that
connect the doorbell to the transformer disconnect the positive one
(probably the red one if red and green are the two wire colours). Connect
one side of the switch to the wire that you disconnected and connect the
other side of the switch to the terminal on the bell. It is good pratice to
interput the +ve line, but since we're working with very low DC voltage it
really doesn't matter. If the power from the transformer goes to the
doorbell button, you have to connect it like the later case. Simply put the
switch in as in the former case.

Here is a little ASCII schematic. It's the same schematic for both setups,
except in the second setup, the SPDT-switch is between the doorbell button
and the doorbell:

+ ---------------------|SPDT-switch|-----------
|
|
Doorbell button
|
12-24VDC |
Doorbell
|
|
- ---------------------------------------------------

NOTE: by doing this, if you have a light on the pushbutton (outside), it
will go off when you turn off the switch.

Give me a shout if you need a better picture or this doesn't make sense (I'm
an electrical engineering student -3rd year, so this is pretty basic stuff
to me and I sometimes forget that it isn't to others).

Jeff


If your doorbell is located where you can easily reach up and touch it
I'd suggest that an good spot you to mount a miniature toggle switch
would be right through a hole drilled in the doorbell's housing. That'd
eliminate the need to run any additional wires.

One like this from Radio Shack should do the job:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CT LG%5F011%5F002%5F015%5F006&product%5Fid=275%2D614

HTH,

(Another) Jeff



"JennP" wrote in message
news:J8Gvd.654778$mD.653931@attbi_s02...

"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...

Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can


shut

off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like
to


be

able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to


several

hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.


I don't know, but what a fabulous idea! I'd love something like that to
prevent my barking dog from waking up the kids at naptime. The doorbell is
the only thing that makes her bark.

JennP.








MUADIB® December 19th 04 07:17 PM

Did anyone other than me hear that the "X-10" bunch claimed bankruptcy
recently?.............About two months ago or so. I swear
It!................Maybe I should have tken more time and listened
more carefully, they may have sold also.............but I know I heard
a newscasrt one morning saying something about their Bankruptcy.

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news...le.php/3097651

Turns out I wasn;t just hearing things.


After making sure nothing else is running off the transformer, I suggest
using a switch to cut off the 120V feed. You could use a timer type or with
an X-10 system you could have a remote no wire switch in a convenient
location away from the transformer.




Remove "YOURPANTIES" to reply

MUADIB®

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/sster...IN%20PAGE.html

one small step for man,.....
One giant leap for attorneys.

Mark Holbrook January 27th 05 02:54 AM

One could put a wet paint sign on the door and the area around it? ;)

Mark

"JerryD(upstateNY)" wrote in message
...
Switching off the door bell will just make the people knock on the door.
How do you plan on stopping that ?

--
JerryD(upstateNY)

"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can
shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like to
be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to
several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.





Nick Hull January 27th 05 12:52 PM

"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I can
shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like to
be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to
several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.


How about stuffing tissue into the bell to quiet it?

--
Free men own guns, slaves don't
www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/

Joe Zimmerman January 27th 05 02:28 PM

Instead of hardwiring the doorbell transformer to your AC, you could put
that on a switch, or use some sort of X10 aplliance module to turn it on and
off.

Joe
"Nick Hull" wrote in message
...
"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that I
can
shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd like
to
be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off. I've been to
several
hardware stores and haven't found what I'm looking for. Thanks for any
suggestions.


How about stuffing tissue into the bell to quiet it?

--
Free men own guns, slaves don't
www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/




Travis Jordan January 28th 05 12:27 AM

"Chemqueries" wrote in message
...
Do any of you know whether there is such a thing as a doorbell that
I can shut
off and on from the inside of the house? On weekend mornings, I'd
like to be
able to deactivate the doorbell or switch the sound off.


1) Ask you neighbors not to ring your doorbell on the weekends.
2) Post a "No Solicitation" sign on your front steps.




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