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![]() "David L" wrote in message ... Hi all, I'm a homeowner on Long Island, NY. My heating system is about 45 years old now, so I guess it's finally time to replace it. This seems like a classic example for doing a cost study for one's individual situation. No one else will have the magic answers for you, your residence or area. Such a study has two main components; 1) The First cost of a new installation. Also how long will it last; presumably many years, before it in turn will also need replacement. 2) The expected future and on going costs of operating and maintaining. The financial effect of these can be brought back, financially if you wish to a 'Present Worth' cost, in order to compare them directly. 3) Thirdly YOU have to decide what future variables may/will affect you. This will include existing and future costs of fuel, current and future major repairs and when and if they will occur. This may include a future new chimney, oil tank replacement at some future date, future changes in oil tank leakage regulations, possibility that additional liability insurance will be needed to guard against environmental pollution due to oil leakage into ground water etc. 4) Fourthly there will be intangibles that only you can decide if/will affect your decision. these might include future government policies, whether you will ever increase the size of your house, add heating to a future garage, whether you want a system that will be easiest to maintain when you retire, sell or rent the house etc. etc. Also whether these will incur any difference in cost either now or in the future. Intangibles also would include your own assessments of the comparative risks of the various fuels. This would include the need for Carbon Monoxide/Smoke detectors wired and linked as required by local regulations? Insurance requirements? I would suggest that much of this information could be obtained by getting 'several' quotes for both oil and gas for the 'first costs' and also some numbers from the fuel providers for their expectation of future costs. But YOU decide what you think future fuel costs will be. 5) Your choice must adequately do the job you want it to do under all reasonable/expected conditions short of a world flood or a 250 mph windstorm! While agreeing that electricity is generally more expensive it also has advantages. We decided to go all electric some 34 years ago and for us it was good choice. Our advantages and savings were; no requirement to purchase and install a fuel tank which by now would have needed replacement at least once! No cost for chimney and no need to clean it regularly. Great simplicity of installation, virtually zero maintenance (one circuit breaker and three thermostats, one of which was replaced for cosmetic reasons during 34 years!). Ability to turn down or off, individual rooms, an advantage now that there is now only a single person in a four bedroom house. Currently though the cost of electricity has increased by about 8% and is rumoured to increase gain mid 2005 due to the increased cost of oil which fuels one generating station that produces about 40% of our electricity, particularly during the winter. It has also proved extremely safe and the electric supply very reliable. BTW. If I install 'auxiliary' heating, say in the form of a properly chimnied and installed wood stove there would be a reduction in my electricity fuel cost, but it would increase my property insurance due to a higher fire risk. At age 71 I am still able to safely maintain our electric heating system with ease. Whereas the maintenance of an oil tank system and responsibility for spilled fuel oil into the ground, which has happened several tomes here at major cost to homeowners, often not covered by insurers, here, would be a worry. So do a comparative cost study using all obtained info and reasonable financial parameters for interest rates/cost of money etc. |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:58:06 GMT, someone wrote:
I've met with a couple of contractors already and I must say I'm still not at all sure whether I want to go gas or oil. You can almost forget about trying to figure out which fuel is cheaper. They are tied to each other in the market, people buy btus, there are many industrial and utility users who can burn either so if one gets lower they switch until it evens up again, and/or single fuel users will go to the other, again until it evens out. Any significant difference will likely be merely temporary. If anything gas may have a more efficient distribution system - nobody needs to drive out to your house in a truck. Gas, the utility charges what they charge, which is either a good thing or a bad thing. However you can often buy a supplier contract if you like to get into that stuff (in my area, we do that for our commercial properties) and play that market. Oil, there are plenty of different companies, they charge what they charge, you can try toi time that too, I don't with my residence, I like the company and just go with them. As a result I bargain more for my gas than my oil! Oil, a leak can be very VERY costly to clean up. There are situations where this is your responsibility. Gas, a leak may blow up your house and kill you. This is rare but does indeed happen. However, most leaks are minor and just blow away and don't need any cleanup. My opinion, you already have gas in the house, so worst of both worlds - chance of both blowing up and expensive spill, too. So get rid of the oil and eliminate that peril. You are apparently already comfortable with having the gas in the house, just go with it. It MIGHT even be a LITTLE cheaper, and whether you find utility pricing better or worse in concept than negotiating your own is up to you. There is no wrong answer. (Years ago, there was.) -v. |
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