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More Heavy Trolling by the Nym-Shifting Senile Australian Pest!
On Wed, 26 May 2021 07:36:38 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- John addressing the senile Australian pest: "You are a complete idiot. But you make me larf. LOL" MID: |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 5/24/2021 2:17 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Great, sooner you die of the virus the better. Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. Great, sooner you die of the virus the better. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. Must be why you get the flu shot, you stupid cow. It must really GET to you that I live my life as I see fit, huh? Nope, I welcome you repeatedly proving what a stupid ****wit you have always been. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. And we are doing that with you fools that refuse to wear masks and get vaccinated and die from the virus. |
More Heavy Trolling by the Nym-Shifting Senile Australian Pest!
On Wed, 26 May 2021 08:31:37 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile cretin's latest troll**** unread -- "Who or What is Rod Speed? Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard man" on the InterNet." https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
More Heavy Trolling by the Nym-Shifting Senile Australian Pest!
On Wed, 26 May 2021 08:33:43 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old senile Australian cretin's pathological trolling: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On Wed, 26 May 2021 07:36:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind spewed just the troll**** it always ends up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it always is. Proof positive. Rodie will never change. He'll be dead a half century and still spout the exact same phrases. He's already succeeded for 25. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
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Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
spewed just the troll**** it always ends up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it always is. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 25/05/2021 22:41, Muggles wrote:
On 5/24/2021 2:17 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: ** There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other* right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero.* Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S.* Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective.* Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines.* At least not yet.* I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. ** Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data.* Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Great, sooner you die of the virus the better. Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period.* I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. Great, sooner you die of the virus the better. *My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. Must be why you get the flu shot, you stupid cow. It must really GET to you that I live my life as I see fit, huh? It was a fair statement that you avoided dealing with. You claimed natural immunity Hypocrite. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 25/05/2021 22:43, Muggles wrote:
On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months.Â*Â* You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. That's avoiding the question that was asked....again. |
More Heavy Trolling by the Nym-Shifting Senile Australian Pest!
On Wed, 26 May 2021 13:28:40 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH more the useless trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- FredXX to trolling Rodent Speed: "You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity and criminality is inherited after all?" Message-ID: |
lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's Eternal Senile Whore!
On Tue, 25 May 2021 20:38:39 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: Or driving down the road in a convertible. Okay, I'm busted. I did wear a face shield riding down the road on my Harley. That's probably the most important and interesting info I've read in this group over the last weeks, senile blabbermouth! BG |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:47:11 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. The lie repeated. If you're concerned about the rare possibility of clots, then the two most widely used vaccines have no clotting issues. And even with the AZ and J&J vaccines, the few incidents of clotting problems are far lower than the incidents of clotting in those that contract Covid. The great benefit to those vaccinated is that they have virtually zero chance of dying from Covid an almost zero chance of being hospitalized with Covid and a low chance of symptomatic infection. Not only is there a health benefit, but a financial benefit as well, not being unable to work for a month, doctor, hospital bills, etc. If a family does not lose their bread winner to Covid, that's a huge financial benefit to them and society. Those are the simple facts. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 26/05/2021 13:09, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:47:11 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote: On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. The lie repeated. If you're concerned about the rare possibility of clots, then the two most widely used vaccines have no clotting issues. And even with the AZ and J&J vaccines, the few incidents of clotting problems are far lower than the incidents of clotting in those that contract Covid. The great benefit to those vaccinated is that they have virtually zero chance of dying from Covid an almost zero chance of being hospitalized with Covid and a low chance of symptomatic infection. Not only is there a health benefit, but a financial benefit as well, not being unable to work for a month, doctor, hospital bills, etc. If a family does not lose their bread winner to Covid, that's a huge financial benefit to them and society. Those are the simple facts. Trumpets lack critical thinking and logic, amongst many other odd beliefs. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 5/26/2021 8:32 AM, Bod wrote:
On 26/05/2021 13:09, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:47:11 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote: On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. The lie repeated.Â* If you're concerned about the rare possibility of clots, then the two most widely used vaccines have no clotting issues.Â* And even with the AZ and J&J vaccines, the few incidents of clotting problems are far lower than the incidents of clotting in those that contract Covid.Â* The great benefit to those vaccinated is that they have virtually zero chance of dying from Covid an almost zero chance of being hospitalized with Covid and a low chance of symptomatic infection. Not only is there a health benefit, but a financial benefit as well, not being unable to work for a month, doctor, hospital bills, etc.Â*Â* If a family does not lose their bread winner to Covid, that's a huge financial benefit to them and society.Â* Those are the simple facts. Trumpets lack critical thinking and logic, amongst many other odd beliefs. Again you are mistaken. I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:41:05 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 5/26/2021 8:32 AM, Bod wrote: On 26/05/2021 13:09, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:47:11 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote: On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. The lie repeated. If you're concerned about the rare possibility of clots, then the two most widely used vaccines have no clotting issues. And even with the AZ and J&J vaccines, the few incidents of clotting problems are far lower than the incidents of clotting in those that contract Covid. The great benefit to those vaccinated is that they have virtually zero chance of dying from Covid an almost zero chance of being hospitalized with Covid and a low chance of symptomatic infection. Not only is there a health benefit, but a financial benefit as well, not being unable to work for a month, doctor, hospital bills, etc. If a family does not lose their bread winner to Covid, that's a huge financial benefit to them and society. Those are the simple facts. Trumpets lack critical thinking and logic, amongst many other odd beliefs. Again you are mistaken. I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Trump supporters oppose freedom? (Or perhaps oppressive freedom?) I believe they do, but I don't think that's what you meant to write. Cindy Hamilton |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 05/26/2021 06:40 AM, Frank wrote:
But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Want a redo? Freedom is not making your own choices? Thank you, Mr. Orwell. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 26/05/2021 13:40, Frank wrote:
On 5/26/2021 8:32 AM, Bod wrote: On 26/05/2021 13:09, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:47:11 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote: On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. The lie repeated.Â* If you're concerned about the rare possibility of clots, then the two most widely used vaccines have no clotting issues.Â* And even with the AZ and J&J vaccines, the few incidents of clotting problems are far lower than the incidents of clotting in those that contract Covid.Â* The great benefit to those vaccinated is that they have virtually zero chance of dying from Covid an almost zero chance of being hospitalized with Covid and a low chance of symptomatic infection. Not only is there a health benefit, but a financial benefit as well, not being unable to work for a month, doctor, hospital bills, etc.Â*Â* If a family does not lose their bread winner to Covid, that's a huge financial benefit to them and society.Â* Those are the simple facts. Trumpets lack critical thinking and logic, amongst many other odd beliefs. Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Even to the detriment of others!? |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote:
Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump. Those that think for themselves are ostracized. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 5/26/2021 9:16 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:41:05 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 8:32 AM, Bod wrote: On 26/05/2021 13:09, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:47:11 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote: On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. The lie repeated. If you're concerned about the rare possibility of clots, then the two most widely used vaccines have no clotting issues. And even with the AZ and J&J vaccines, the few incidents of clotting problems are far lower than the incidents of clotting in those that contract Covid. The great benefit to those vaccinated is that they have virtually zero chance of dying from Covid an almost zero chance of being hospitalized with Covid and a low chance of symptomatic infection. Not only is there a health benefit, but a financial benefit as well, not being unable to work for a month, doctor, hospital bills, etc. If a family does not lose their bread winner to Covid, that's a huge financial benefit to them and society. Those are the simple facts. Trumpets lack critical thinking and logic, amongst many other odd beliefs. Again you are mistaken. I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Trump supporters oppose freedom? (Or perhaps oppressive freedom?) I believe they do, but I don't think that's what you meant to write. Cindy Hamilton I noticed my error after posting but assumed you would understand. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 5/26/2021 10:20 AM, Bod wrote:
On 26/05/2021 13:40, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 8:32 AM, Bod wrote: On 26/05/2021 13:09, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:47:11 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote: On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. The lie repeated.Â* If you're concerned about the rare possibility of clots, then the two most widely used vaccines have no clotting issues.Â* And even with the AZ and J&J vaccines, the few incidents of clotting problems are far lower than the incidents of clotting in those that contract Covid.Â* The great benefit to those vaccinated is that they have virtually zero chance of dying from Covid an almost zero chance of being hospitalized with Covid and a low chance of symptomatic infection. Not only is there a health benefit, but a financial benefit as well, not being unable to work for a month, doctor, hospital bills, etc.Â*Â* If a family does not lose their bread winner to Covid, that's a huge financial benefit to them and society.Â* Those are the simple facts. Trumpets lack critical thinking and logic, amongst many other odd beliefs. Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Even to the detriment of others!? Of course not. There will be a few that refuse vaccine and those that cannot take it. Hopefully the small percentage will not effect going to herd immunity which some say is over 70% vaccinated. We are not talking about drunk driving here. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 5/26/2021 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote: Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump.Â* Those that think for themselves are ostracized. You caught my error. No one is infallible and one should not assume that all us Trump supporters think he is. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 5/26/2021 10:47 AM, Frank wrote:
On 5/26/2021 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote: Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump.Â* Those that think for themselves are ostracized. You caught my error.Â* No one is infallible and one should not assume that all us Trump supporters think he is. I'm sure you are not against freedom. We've all made errors here. not a big deal. It is just that so many of his supporters support his lies. Did you see the Hitler quote in the high school yearbook? "It is a quite special secret pleasure how the people around us fail to realize what is really happening to them," the quote said, via the Hartford Courant. Hitler attacked the free press early in his rise and Trump started the same with his "fake news" mantra. He started lying within hours of his inauguration. If you speak against him, he attacks and most of his supporters attack with him. Alternate opinions not allowed. |
Oops, if you're a wordy bigmouth
On Wed, 26 May 2021 08:06:48 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: Want a redo? Freedom is not making your own choices? Thank you, Mr. Orwell. You really like to hear youself talking much, eh? |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 5/26/2021 11:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/26/2021 10:47 AM, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote: Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump.Â* Those that think for themselves are ostracized. You caught my error.Â* No one is infallible and one should not assume that all us Trump supporters think he is. I'm sure you are not against freedom.Â* We've all made errors here. not a big deal. It is just that so many of his supporters support his lies. Did you see the Hitler quote in the high school yearbook? "It is a quite special secret pleasure how the people around us fail to realize what is really happening to them," the quote said, via the Hartford Courant. Hitler attacked the free press early in his rise and Trump started the same with his "fake news" mantra.Â* He started lying within hours of his inauguration.Â* If you speak against him, he attacks and most of his supporters attack with him.Â* Alternate opinions not allowed. Media is the country's worse enemy. They told many lies about him, like Russia collusion, at worst and most reports of him were slanted. The profession attracts those with a liberal bent. "Fake news" may be hype but does describe our media. Many here are duped by it. |
Oops, if you're unvaccinated.
On 26/05/2021 17:09, Frank wrote:
On 5/26/2021 11:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:47 AM, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote: Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump.Â* Those that think for themselves are ostracized. You caught my error.Â* No one is infallible and one should not assume that all us Trump supporters think he is. I'm sure you are not against freedom.Â* We've all made errors here. not a big deal. It is just that so many of his supporters support his lies. Did you see the Hitler quote in the high school yearbook? "It is a quite special secret pleasure how the people around us fail to realize what is really happening to them," the quote said, via the Hartford Courant. Hitler attacked the free press early in his rise and Trump started the same with his "fake news" mantra.Â* He started lying within hours of his inauguration.Â* If you speak against him, he attacks and most of his supporters attack with him.Â* Alternate opinions not allowed. Media is the country's worse enemy.Â* They told many lies about him, like Russia collusion, at worst and most reports of him were slanted. The profession attracts those with a liberal bent.Â* "Fake news" may be hype but does describe our media.Â* Many here are duped by it. Wind turbines cause cancer. Six new steel plants are being built....steel companies said they weren't. Just two of Trump's many lies. |
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On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 5/26/2021 9:16 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:41:05 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote: But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Trump supporters oppose freedom? (Or perhaps oppressive freedom?) I believe they do, but I don't think that's what you meant to write. Cindy Hamilton I noticed my error after posting but assumed you would understand. I did, but sometimes I just can't resist. My inner copyeditor runs wild. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 5/26/2021 5:40 AM, Frank wrote:
On 5/26/2021 8:32 AM, Bod wrote: On 26/05/2021 13:09, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:47:11 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote: On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. The lie repeated.Â* If you're concerned about the rare possibility of clots, then the two most widely used vaccines have no clotting issues.Â* And even with the AZ and J&J vaccines, the few incidents of clotting problems are far lower than the incidents of clotting in those that contract Covid.Â* The great benefit to those vaccinated is that they have virtually zero chance of dying from Covid an almost zero chance of being hospitalized with Covid and a low chance of symptomatic infection. Not only is there a health benefit, but a financial benefit as well, not being unable to work for a month, doctor, hospital bills, etc.Â*Â* If a family does not lose their bread winner to Covid, that's a huge financial benefit to them and society.Â* Those are the simple facts. Trumpets lack critical thinking and logic, amongst many other odd beliefs. Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. And they refuse to take the vaccine that trump and his family did as quickly as they could. |
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On 5/26/2021 7:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote: Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump.Â* Those that think for themselves are ostracized. Than all these anti-vaxers should be ostracized. trump got the vaccine while still in the W.H. |
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On 5/26/2021 9:09 AM, Frank wrote:
Media is the country's worse enemy.Â* They told many lies about him, like Russia collusion, at worst and most reports of him were slanted. The profession attracts those with a liberal bent.Â* "Fake news" may be hype but does describe our media.Â* Many here are duped by it. Then explain why trump's campaign manager was passing election data to Russian agents. |
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On 5/26/2021 12:25 PM, Bod wrote:
On 26/05/2021 17:09, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 11:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:47 AM, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote: Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump.Â* Those that think for themselves are ostracized. You caught my error.Â* No one is infallible and one should not assume that all us Trump supporters think he is. I'm sure you are not against freedom.Â* We've all made errors here. not a big deal. It is just that so many of his supporters support his lies. Did you see the Hitler quote in the high school yearbook? "It is a quite special secret pleasure how the people around us fail to realize what is really happening to them," the quote said, via the Hartford Courant. Hitler attacked the free press early in his rise and Trump started the same with his "fake news" mantra.Â* He started lying within hours of his inauguration.Â* If you speak against him, he attacks and most of his supporters attack with him.Â* Alternate opinions not allowed. Media is the country's worse enemy.Â* They told many lies about him, like Russia collusion, at worst and most reports of him were slanted. The profession attracts those with a liberal bent.Â* "Fake news" may be hype but does describe our media.Â* Many here are duped by it. Wind turbines cause cancer. Six new steel plants are being built....steel companies said they weren't. Just two of Trump's many lies. Libs do not understand hype and certainly have no sense of humor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0s5Zqmb09g If you get all your opinions off the media are misinformed. It was Mark Twain that said something like, "If you do not read the news, you are uninformed but if you read the news, you are misinformed." |
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On 5/26/2021 1:05 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:43:22 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 9:16 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:41:05 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote: But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Trump supporters oppose freedom? (Or perhaps oppressive freedom?) I believe they do, but I don't think that's what you meant to write. Cindy Hamilton I noticed my error after posting but assumed you would understand. I did, but sometimes I just can't resist. My inner copyeditor runs wild. Cindy Hamilton I have sometimes said that since I do not get paid to post, I can be sloppy. |
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On 5/26/2021 12:09 PM, Frank wrote:
On 5/26/2021 11:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:47 AM, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote: Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump.Â* Those that think for themselves are ostracized. You caught my error.Â* No one is infallible and one should not assume that all us Trump supporters think he is. I'm sure you are not against freedom.Â* We've all made errors here. not a big deal. It is just that so many of his supporters support his lies. Did you see the Hitler quote in the high school yearbook? "It is a quite special secret pleasure how the people around us fail to realize what is really happening to them," the quote said, via the Hartford Courant. Hitler attacked the free press early in his rise and Trump started the same with his "fake news" mantra.Â* He started lying within hours of his inauguration.Â* If you speak against him, he attacks and most of his supporters attack with him.Â* Alternate opinions not allowed. Media is the country's worse enemy.Â* They told many lies about him, like Russia collusion, at worst and most reports of him were slanted. The profession attracts those with a liberal bent.Â* "Fake news" may be hype but does describe our media.Â* Many here are duped by it. There is a liberal sway. You have to sort out the facts. But you also have to watch the alleged conservative side too. Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Mr. Pillowhead cannot be trusted either. Sad that the person you trust the least and has the most certified lies is the President of the United States. |
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Larry wrote
On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Life is all about risk vs reward. Yes and there is no risk involved with a mask and very real rewards. A tiny risk with a vaccination, much lower than the risk if you get infected and massive reward, you wont die from the virus and wont be very sick and wont get long covid. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, Yes, but the risk with getting infected is vastly higher. BigPharma takes the billions of reward. Another bare faced lie. Some of the vaccines are being sold at cost. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. Great, the more fools like you the virus kills the better. |
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On 5/26/2021 12:25 PM, Bod wrote:
On 26/05/2021 17:09, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 11:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:47 AM, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote: Again you are mistaken.Â* I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump.Â* Those that think for themselves are ostracized. You caught my error.Â* No one is infallible and one should not assume that all us Trump supporters think he is. I'm sure you are not against freedom.Â* We've all made errors here. not a big deal. It is just that so many of his supporters support his lies. Did you see the Hitler quote in the high school yearbook? "It is a quite special secret pleasure how the people around us fail to realize what is really happening to them," the quote said, via the Hartford Courant. Hitler attacked the free press early in his rise and Trump started the same with his "fake news" mantra.Â* He started lying within hours of his inauguration.Â* If you speak against him, he attacks and most of his supporters attack with him.Â* Alternate opinions not allowed. Media is the country's worse enemy.Â* They told many lies about him, like Russia collusion, at worst and most reports of him were slanted. The profession attracts those with a liberal bent.Â* "Fake news" may be hype but does describe our media.Â* Many here are duped by it. Wind turbines cause cancer. Six new steel plants are being built....steel companies said they weren't. Just two of Trump's many lies. This is a good source https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/ WAPO is liberal and has an agenda but just look at the sheer numbers https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...er-four-years/ |
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On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 2:08:12 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/26/2021 12:09 PM, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 11:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:47 AM, Frank wrote: On 5/26/2021 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/26/2021 8:40 AM, Frank wrote: Again you are mistaken. I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. Grammatical error about freedom aside, they can make their own choices as long as they agree with Trump. Those that think for themselves are ostracized. You caught my error. No one is infallible and one should not assume that all us Trump supporters think he is. I'm sure you are not against freedom. We've all made errors here. not a big deal. It is just that so many of his supporters support his lies. Did you see the Hitler quote in the high school yearbook? "It is a quite special secret pleasure how the people around us fail to realize what is really happening to them," the quote said, via the Hartford Courant. Hitler attacked the free press early in his rise and Trump started the same with his "fake news" mantra. He started lying within hours of his inauguration. If you speak against him, he attacks and most of his supporters attack with him. Alternate opinions not allowed. Media is the country's worse enemy. They told many lies about him, like Russia collusion, at worst and most reports of him were slanted. The profession attracts those with a liberal bent. "Fake news" may be hype but does describe our media. Many here are duped by it. There is a liberal sway. You have to sort out the facts. But you also have to watch the alleged conservative side too. Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Mr. Pillowhead cannot be trusted either. Sad that the person you trust the least and has the most certified lies is the President of the United States. The Former Guy. I'm sure Biden lies, but he doesn't come up with the whoppers that Trump did, and he doesn't double and triple down on them when he's caught lying. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 1:31:42 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 5/26/2021 12:25 PM, Bod wrote: Wind turbines cause cancer. Six new steel plants are being built....steel companies said they weren't. Just two of Trump's many lies. Libs do not understand hype and certainly have no sense of humor: I understand hype. I expect and tolerate it from low-rent shopping-network pitchmen. I don't expect it and will not tolerate it from the President of the United States. Cindy Hamilton |
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Frank "frank wrote
Bod wrote On 26/05/2021 13:09, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:47:11 AM UTC-4, Larry wrote: On 5/26/21 5:47 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 5:45:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/25/2021 8:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote: On 5/24/2021 10:31 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 5/23/2021 7:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-23, Clare Snyder wrote: There's a saying that goes something like this: " Your right to behave like an asshole stops where the rights of others begin" Anti vaxxers and other right wing libertarians need to take it to heart. No, it is leftist morons who need to take it to heart. You have no right to demand that anyone be subjected to medical experimentation via "vaccines" that have had no long-term testing and are not even FDA approved. That is YOU swinging YOUR arms/fists into others' noses making such demands. You have absolutely no right to demand anyone to take *any* kind of medication or to relegate "refuseniks" to 2nd-class status. Vaccine "passports" (actually Soviet-style internal passports) are unlikely to survive a court challenge in the U.S., given the strong history of legislation and court deicisions in favor of medical privacy and forbidding such discrimination on that basis. Even the Left's most holy of holies - Roe v. Wade - was decided on the basis of medical privacy. I will not be vaccinated any time soon. I will not cooperate with vaccine "passports". Do yourself a favor and learn a little history about how and why the U.S. got our smallpox cases down to zero. Learn about the history of mandatory smallpox vaccination in the U.S. Learn about the PHS 731 (the "yellow card"), how it was implemented and why it was required (as a "vaccine passport") to travel internationally for decades. Don't be so certain that the Federal government couldn't impose new vaccination and vaccination documentation requirements. And, just for your information, the rate of serious side effects and even deaths from smallpox immunization was far higher than what's been found for any of the currently used 3 anti-COVID vaccines. As far as being experimental, you are certainly correct from an ethical perspective. Even our military, which does impose mandatory vaccination for active duty personnel for many infectious diseases has not done so for the anti-COIVD vaccines. At least not yet. I have read several opinions from experts in medical-legal matters that the issue of the legality of mandating vaccination with an experimental vaccine is not settled law and therefore, how courts would rule is currently indeterminate. Pfizer has recently submitted a full licensing data package to the FDA and the other two are expected to follow soon when they accumulate the required set of 6-month minimum follow-up data. Time from submission to full licensing by the FDA usually requires several months. At this time, nothing has appeared in the data to suggest that ultimately any of the 3 currently used vaccines will not be fully licensed. I will wait a few years before I take any new "vaccine." Side effects will be reported during MY waiting period. I want to know how it effects a lot of people before I'll be willing to take a covid vaccine. My immune system fights off viruses just fine and has done so for over 6 decades. -- Maggie Cite for us any vaccines where side effects did not show up until years later. We have tens of thousands vaccinated now for over 6 months, millions for over 5 months. You're a coward, enjoying the benefit of the 170 mil Americans who have been vaccinated, while refusing to take the infinitesimal risk of some adverse, long term side effect. I enjoy the benefit of watching and learning from other people's bad decisions. Do you also learn from their good decisions? Cindy Hamilton Life is all about risk vs reward. In this case, you take all the experimental vaccine risk, BigPharma takes the billions of reward. FWIW, I won't be taking the experimental clot-shot. The lie repeated. If you're concerned about the rare possibility of clots, then the two most widely used vaccines have no clotting issues. And even with the AZ and J&J vaccines, the few incidents of clotting problems are far lower than the incidents of clotting in those that contract Covid. The great benefit to those vaccinated is that they have virtually zero chance of dying from Covid an almost zero chance of being hospitalized with Covid and a low chance of symptomatic infection. Not only is there a health benefit, but a financial benefit as well, not being unable to work for a month, doctor, hospital bills, etc. If a family does not lose their bread winner to Covid, that's a huge financial benefit to them and society. Those are the simple facts. Trumpets lack critical thinking and logic, amongst many other odd beliefs. Again you are mistaken. I am a Trump supporter and it may slip the mind of those with severe TDS that it was Trump that expedited development of the vaccines and vaccination. Bull**** he did, that would have happened anyway. I am vaccinated and urge others to do it. But, you should know, that Trump supporters oppose oppressive government and freedom and think that they should make their own choices. But fools like Larry and Muggles are too stupid to be able to do that. |
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